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Bibi a sign that the Anti Christ is near

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
Since the pertinent text speak of the whore sitting on seven hills (Revelation 17:9), and since we hear of the seven hills of Rome . . ..




John
Yes .. the Vatican is one of the heads of the multi headed beast ... a manifestation of the anti -christ which ruled for over 1000 years .. That was in the Old age .. now is the new Age .. the manifestation has evolved .. is now a political system .. referred to as the Oligopoly Bureaucracy Fusion Monster ... which is subjugating the world .. a pay to play system where the power lies in the Donor Class .. and the top of that food chain is ?
 

John D. Brey

Well-Known Member
Yes .. the Vatican is one of the heads of the multi headed beast ... a manifestation of the anti -christ which ruled for over 1000 years .. That was in the Old age .. now is the new Age .. the manifestation has evolved .. is now a political system .. referred to as the Oligopoly Bureaucracy Fusion Monster ... which is subjugating the world .. a pay to play system where the power lies in the Donor Class .. and the top of that food chain is ?

I probably know what you're implying. And in my opinion, any attempt to demonize any conglomeration of peoples be they "liberals" or "Jews" or "Christians" or what have you, takes the focus away from the true power politics that moves the world. Paul said our battle isn't with Jews or liberals or bohemians or MAGA hordes, et al.. Our true enemy is the Principalities and Powers in the air. Yes, they've recruited Jews, liberals, Christians, and MAGA, in their battle against the righteous. But don't confuse the bathwater with the million dollar babies ruling this world.





John
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
Doubt it. Let's see what I wrote:

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I've replied twice This is third. The reply you are probably miss-remembering is the first one. My objection is: It is "Ambiguous Rubbish".

Ambiguous Rubbish being your false claim .. You have not the faintest clue what the Anti-Christ is .. so you have no basis for comment.
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
I probably know what you're implying. And in my opinion, any attempt to demonize any conglomeration of peoples be they "liberals" or "Jews" or "Christians" or what have you, takes the focus away from the true power politics that moves the world. Paul said our battle isn't with Jews or liberals or bohemians or MAGA hordes, et al.. Our true enemy is the Principalities and Powers in the air. Yes, they've recruited Jews, liberals, Christians, and MAGA, in their battle against the righteous. But don't confuse the bathwater with the million dollar babies ruling this world.





John

who is demonizing a conglomeration of peoples ? Clearly have not the faintest idea what is being implied - or more seems you have things backwards .. and upside down .. who is confusing the bathwater with the million dollar babies ?

Of course the principlalities influence .. What part of the hands of man are influenced by the Chief God over the earth and tester of souls - did you not understand in scripture.. Paul is not the Logos .. and very uninspiring at times.. telling you to embrace the Anti Christ... not his finest moment.

What is "The Beast" ? and who is the top of the Food Chain .. which really we should be saying who or what .

Have you not read the tea leaves ? Who/What is at the top of the Food Chain .. and how are Trump and Biden Related to that Food Chain .. and Bibi ! lest we forget that worshiper of the demiurge ..
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
OK. What is "near"? Can you be more specific?

?? OK .. the problem is not your undestanding of the word "near" .. that word has nothing to do with your lack of understanding what the anti christ is .. and therefor your commentary on the subject is worthless .. your claim "Ambiguious Rubbish" false unsupported nonsense.

Now .. do you understand your error ?
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
?? OK .. the problem is not your undestanding of the word "near"

Bro. You aren't aware that people have claiming the end is near since the, theoretical, ministry of Jesus?' It's almost 2000 years later. They're still saying the end is near.

So? What's near? 1 year? 5 years? 15? 20? Gimme a range at least.
 

Betho_br

Active Member
I am perplexed by these arguments... passionate, speculative, xenophobic. When you become experienced in the Sacred Writings, you can realize that the Book of Revelations is divided into 7 (seven) parts, each perspective represents a distinct approach to contemplating the same topic.
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
Bro. You aren't aware that people have claiming the end is near since the, theoretical, ministry of Jesus?' It's almost 2000 years later. They're still saying the end is near.

So? What's near? 1 year? 5 years? 15? 20? Gimme a range at least.

You were not told the end is near dymbh .. why do you keep making up these fantasies .. can not seem to stay on point .. we are talking about the anti-christ .. not the End .. Now go and learn what is the anti-christ .. come back when you have coherent questions /response :)
 

Betho_br

Active Member
You were not told the end is near dymbh .. why do you keep making up these fantasies .. can not seem to stay on point .. we are talking about the anti-christ .. not the End .. Now go and learn what is the anti-christ .. come back when you have coherent questions /response :)

1. Introduction and Messages to the Seven Churches (Revelation 1-3)
- Revelation 1:1-20: John's vision on the island of Patmos and the messages to the seven churches in Asia.

2. Visions of the Seals (Revelation 4-7)
- Revelation 4:1-11: The vision of the heavenly throne.
- Revelation 5:1-14: The Lamb who was slain.
- Revelation 6:1-17: The opening of the first six seals.

3. Visions of the Trumpets (Revelation 8-11)
- Revelation 8:1-13: The opening of the seventh seal and the first four trumpets.
- Revelation 9:1-21: The fifth and sixth trumpets.
- Revelation 10:1-11: The announcement of the seventh angel.
- Revelation 11:1-19: The measuring of the temple and the seventh trumpet.

4. Visions of the Figures (Revelation 12-14)**
- Revelation 12:1-17: The woman and the dragon.
- Revelation 13:1-18: The beast from the sea and the beast from the earth.
- Revelation 14:1-20: The vision of the 144,000 and the three angelic messages.

5. Visions of the Bowls of Wrath (Revelation 15-16)
- Revelation 15:1-8: The preparation of the seven bowls of God's wrath.
- Revelation 16:1-21: The pouring out of the seven bowls of wrath.

6. Judgment of Babylon and the Dragon (Revelation 17-20)
- Revelation 17:1-18: The judgment of the great prostitute.
- Revelation 18:1-24: The fall of Babylon.
- Revelation 19:1-21: The triumph of the Lamb and the defeat of the dragon and the beast.
- Revelation 20:1-15: The millennium and the final judgment.

7. New Jerusalem and Conclusion (Revelation 21-22)
- Revelation 21:1-27: The new Jerusalem and the description of the holy city.
- Revelation 22:1-21: The tree of life and the conclusion of the book.

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2 John 7 New King James Version
For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.


Another title for the Antichrist is 'the deceiver' as per 2 John 1:7.

1) Jesus was called a deceiver in Matthew 27:63.

2) Paul was considered a deceiver in 2 Corinthians 6:8.

3) BUT the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons - 1 Timothy 4:1.

At least one of these three instances has clearly shown itself as a true Antichrist. Guess which one it is?
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
You were not told the end is near dymbh

Bro. It's implied.

we are talking about the anti-christ .. not the End

The Anti-Christ comes at the "end-times". It's part of Christian eschatology, the prophecies and expectations of the "End". A large part of that End-Time prophecy is the revealing of an Anti-Christ. Bro. If you're talking about the Anti-Christ, you're talking about the End-Times. See below. Search the page for "Antichrist".


"Christian eschatology is a minor branch of study within Christian theology which deals with the doctrine of the "last things", especially the Second Coming of Christ"

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we are talking about the anti-christ .. not the End .. Now go and learn what is the anti-christ

Is it near or not? The anti-christ comes at the end.
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
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2 John 7 New King James Version
For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.


Another title for the Antichrist is 'the deceiver' as per 2 John 1:7.

1) Jesus was called a deceiver in Matthew 27:63.

2) Paul was considered a deceiver in 2 Corinthians 6:8.

3) BUT the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons - 1 Timothy 4:1.

At least one of these three instances has clearly shown itself as a true Antichrist. Guess which one it is?

Good Work Brother Betho --- you have discovered that the Anti Christ was a deceiver 2000 years ago .. and thus we can presume that old snake is still a deceiver .. Bibi - Genocide Joe - and Trump all fit the Bill .. but I think we need more than being a decievier to convict one as being the Top Dog Anti-Christ though friend.

1 Timothy .. = Pseudopigrapha = a fancy name for Pious Fraud = the hand of the Anti Christ .. Let us not be deceived friend .. The tester of souls .. Chief God over the Earth .. is not going to show up with horns and a Red Cape .. Do you think you can not be deceived by the greatest of the decepticons with great God Powers ? If the answer is "Yes" then I say this person is already deceived.
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
Bro. It's implied.



The Anti-Christ comes at the "end-times". It's part of Christian eschatology, the prophecies and expectations of the "End". A large part of that End-Time prophecy is the revealing of an Anti-Christ. Bro. If you're talking about the Anti-Christ, you're talking about the End-Times. See below. Search the page for "Antichrist".


"Christian eschatology is a minor branch of study within Christian theology which deals with the doctrine of the "last things", especially the Second Coming of Christ"

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Is it near or not? The anti-christ comes at the end.

Perhaps in your definition it is the end of the world .. some religious right apocalyptic interpretation of prophecy .. .. and you are welcome to this perspective .. "absolute rubbish" or otherwise :) But this is not my perspective Brother dymba and as such your lack of understanding is complete .

Fire coming from Heaven .. as described by Ezekiel is the sign you put forth .. one which I agree could well be a Vision of Bibi !! .. But, only should he choose to use nukes , which has not yet happened .. so you need not worry just yet.

Should however this occur .. you will know the Anti-Christ is near --- having come into the heart of puppet Bibi.
Now do you understand .. or need the more schooling in the wicked ways of the Anti-Christ ?
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
Perhaps in your definition it is the end of the world

Not mine. I'm not Christian. I didn't write the wiki article. It's as easy as "Google+1,2,3" to confirm that this is the mainstream Christian point of view. Not my definition. Moving on...

some religious right apocalyptic interpretation of prophecy .. .. and you are welcome to this perspective .. "absolute rubbish" or otherwise

Bro. If it's not the mainstream perspective / defintion of the term, you're already at a disadvantage. You'll need to show that all those others are wrong, and you're right about what "Anti-Christ" means. Moving on...

But this is not my perspective Brother dymba and as such your lack of understanding is complete .

Just tell me what you mean. If you're right, then, there's multiple definitions. If there's multiple definitions, and you didn't specific, that's ambiguous rubbish. Especially if you knew there are multiple definitions. Moving on ...

Fire coming from Heaven .. as described by Ezekiel is the sign you put forth ..

^^ Ambiguous rubbish ^^ any comet satisfies this.

Should however this occur .. you will know the Anti-Christ is near

That's it? Fire coming from heaven is your show-stopping evidence. And you still won;t give me a time-span which is in your interpretation of "near". It's such a simple question. What's near? 1 year <<>>> 100 years. What is it. When people speak like this, it tells more about the speaker than the target of their ... wrath. Sorry Bro, you are sounding like a wrath of God ... street preacher. You're way smarter than this.
 

Betho_br

Active Member
Good Work Brother Betho --- you have discovered that the Anti Christ was a deceiver 2000 years ago .. and thus we can presume that old snake is still a deceiver .. Bibi - Genocide Joe - and Trump all fit the Bill .. but I think we need more than being a decievier to convict one as being the Top Dog Anti-Christ though friend.

(At 17:18 [Greek)
τινες δε και των επικουρειων και των | στοικων | φιλοσοφων συνεβαλλον αυτω και τινες ελεγον τι αν θελοι ο σπερμολογος ουτος λεγειν οι δε ξενων δαιμονιων δοκει καταγγελευς ειναι οτι τον ιησουν και την αναστασιν ευηγγελιζετο.

Here is the literal translation to American English:

"And some of the Epicurean and Stoic philosophers were conversing with him, and some were saying, 'What does this babbler wish to say?' Others said, 'He seems to be a proclaimer of strange demons,' because he was preaching Jesus and the resurrection."

Unfortunately, biblical translations tend to be quite biased, selecting only the definitions of terms that are convenient, always favoring the religious system.

Moreover, Jesus taught that His kingdom is not of this world, although it encompasses a universal church within it.

1 Timothy 2:1-2 King James Version
I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
 

Eddi

Christianity, Taoism, and Humanism
Premium Member

Bibi a sign that the Anti Christ is near​


What is Bibi?
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
Bro. It's implied.



The Anti-Christ comes at the "end-times". It's part of Christian eschatology, the prophecies and expectations of the "End". A large part of that End-Time prophecy is the revealing of an Anti-Christ. Bro. If you're talking about the Anti-Christ, you're talking about the End-Times. See below. Search the page for "Antichrist".


"Christian eschatology is a minor branch of study within Christian theology which deals with the doctrine of the "last things", especially the Second Coming of Christ"

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Is it near or not? The anti-christ comes at the end.

Perhaps in your definition it is the end of the world .. some religious right apocalyptic interpretation of prophecy .. .. and you are welcome to this perspective .. "absolute rubbish" or otherwise :) But this is not my perspective Brother dymba and as such your lack of understanding is complete .

Fire coming from Heaven .. as described by Ezekiel is the sign you put forth .. one which I agree could well be a Vision of Bibi !! .. But, only should he choose to use nukes , which has not yet happened .. so you need not worry just yet.

Should however this occur .. you will know the Anti-Christ is near --- having come into the heart of puppet Bibi.
Now do you understand .. or need the more schooling in the wicked ways of the Anti-Christ ?
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
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Moreover, Jesus taught that His kingdom is not of this world, although it encompasses a universal church within it.

1 Timothy 2:1-2 King James Version
I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

What part of (1 Timothy .. = Pseudopigrapha = a fancy name for Pious Fraud = the hand of the Anti Christ .. Let us not be deceived friend .. The tester of souls .. Chief God over the Earth .. is not going to show up with horns and a Red Cape .. Do you think you can not be deceived by the greatest of the decepticons with great God Powers ? ) did you not understand

Why are you reciting the words of Ha Satan ? and who told you the Kingdom of Jesus was of this World .. and what part of Ha Satan is chief God over the earth .. did you not understand ?
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
Perhaps in your definition it is the end of the world

Not mine. I already showed you.

How about this? If I read through your posts in this thread is the Anti-Christ described? Do you make it clear what you mean when you wrote the title to the thread? I looked it up online. I'm not Christian.


go and learn what is the anti-christ

I did. I looked it up. What I'm reading and learning is that The Anti-Christ is an end-times prophecy. You're saying, "No, it's not that.". Fine, dude. What is it? Do you, in this thread clearly describe what you mean? I did my part. I tried. It's your turn to do your part.

If I read your posts in this thread, do you explain what you meant by starting a thread titled: "... a sign that the Anti-Christ is near"?

It's a simple yes or no question.
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
Not mine. I already showed you.

How about this? If I read through your posts in this thread is the Anti-Christ described? Do you make it clear what you mean when you wrote the title to the thread? I looked it up online. I'm not Christian.

"I looked it up on line - Im not a christian"

Who cares if you are a Christian ? What does that have to do with you not knowing how the Anti Christ was defined .. yet commenting as if you did know . There are many definitions of the Anti-Christ -- what you looked up .. as you were told... is not the definition I am using .. and thus again .. your claim "Absolute Rubbish" .. is "Absolute Rubbish"

That is all this is about friend .. your false nonsense claim .. about a subject of which you have no understanding .. and thus should not be pretending otherwise .. making defacto claims ..

"Absolute Rubbish" well describes your diatribe thus far friend .. Thus it is time to adopt a christian principle and take log out of own eye .. and try your hand at making a valid argument ..

The forces of order and chaos are in constant battle against each other .. The chaos monster is looking to destroy peace and tranquility .. to dominate and control YOU Brother Dym .. yet you are in denial of the existence of these forces ... and the words of the Prophets written on the subway walls.

The title of the thread asks of Bibi is a sign that the Anti Christ is near .. "The Chaos Monster" now given as some clarification of the term "Anti -Christ" as opposed the silly nonsense definition you looked up online .. one givin by religious right apocalyptic Christians .. a group you profess not to be part of .. but insist on adopting their ideologcal foibles .. as if this somehow supports your "Absolute Rubbish" claim ... a claimwhich you have yet to support in the quest for a valid argument for something.
 
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