Bibles answer to the problem of suffering

[URAVIP2ME]

sincerely,

If Adam was immortal, then Adam would have been death proof.
Mortal Adam could only remain alive IF obedient to God's law.
Also, the fact that Adam had to eat and breathe also shows being mortal.
The immortal are self contained and do not need to depend on any outside source.
That is why Adam was offered everlasting life not immortality.
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Isn't the great multitude [great crowd of living people] alive on earth at the time of Revelation 7 v 14 because they come out of the great tribulation ? They come out alive right into the start of Jesus 1000-year reign over earth, or Jesus' reign over earthly subjects. Please see: Psalm 72 vs 8, 12-14

Jesus, and those part of the first or earlier resurrection of Revelation [ 20 v 6 ], are resurrected to heaven but reign over earth [ Rev. 5 vs 9,10 ]

Aren't the 'sheep' of Matthew [ 25 vs 31,32 ] alive on earth at this coming 'time of separation'?
There is no mentions of those 'sheep' dying.

What would be the point of praying 'thy will be done on earth' if God's will was not to be done?
Isn't God's will for heaven good conditions?_____ No one goes to heaven expecting to find pollution in heaven or war in heaven or sickness in heaven. No one goes to heaven to expect to die in heaven.
All those conditions exist on earth. If God's will for heaven is good conditions and we are praying that God's will be done here [earth] as it is in heaven, then aren't we praying for good conditions to also be here on earth? ________

What did Micah [ 4 vs 3,4 ] write about the future on earth ?_________
Isn't righteousness to dwell on 'earth' according to 2nd Peter 3 v 13 ?

 

[sincerly]

sincerely,

If Adam was immortal, then Adam would have been death proof.
Mortal Adam could only remain alive IF obedient to God's law.
Also, the fact that Adam had to eat and breathe also shows being mortal.
The immortal are self contained and do not need to depend on any outside source.
That is why Adam was offered everlasting life not immortality.

Hi URAVIP2ME, where in my posting of: """"That English word "soul" was translated from the Hebrew word Nephesh which is found in the KJV and has these meanings according to the context.Total: 753
AV — soul 475, life 117, person 29, mind 15, heart 15, creature 9, body 8, himself 8, yourselves 6, dead 5, will 4, desire 4, man 3, themselves 3, any 3, appetite 2, misc 47

Therefore, Adam became a "living person/soul/Being" when the "breath of life" was given to him/and his "molded dust." in none of those 753 usages is there any modification to indicate some apart from Adam as being everlasting/immortal."""" did you find that I believe Adam and EVE had any immortality?? GOD plainly said to them---"Ye shall surely die".

Those other points(below) are debateable , but off-topic for this thread.
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Isn't the great multitude [great crowd of living people] alive on earth at the time of Revelation 7 v 14 because they come out of the great tribulation ? They come out alive right into the start of Jesus 1000-year reign over earth, or Jesus' reign over earthly subjects. Please see: Psalm 72 vs 8, 12-14

URAVIP2ME, Rev.7:14 is the a part of the Prophecy of the "Sixth seal" which was opened and that was Just prior to the Coming of Jesus. Rev.6:9 described those in white robes which were slain earlier in the 1260 years of prophesied persecution GOD'S people would endure. Daniel(8:13-9:27+) prophesied concerning the "dark ages" of this prolonged period of "Tribulation"----and just prior to Jesus' coming there will be another period as seen in Rev.13(a power) which will "exercise all the power of the beast before him." But all this is for another topic.

Jesus, and those part of the first or earlier resurrection of Revelation [ 20 v 6 ], are resurrected to heaven but reign over earth [ Rev. 5 vs 9,10 ]6

URAVIP2ME, since there are only two classes of "dead"(righteous and wicked), and Jesus came for the Redeemed(Righteous---dead and Living) 1Thess.4:13-18, And Satan is bound for that 1000 years---Also the wicked living are slain by the brightness of Jesus Coming(2Thess.2:8) and the wicked dead are not resurrected until the end of the 1000 years along with the release of Satan as seen in Rev.20:5,7----there is NO ONE Alive on this earth to REIGN over.

Aren't the 'sheep' of Matthew [ 25 vs 31,32 ] alive on earth at this coming 'time of separation'?
There is no mentions of those 'sheep' dying.

In the parable, the "sheep" are those who are Redeemed. The "goats" the wicked. And Jesus is on the throne--synbol of judgment. "Shall come" indicates future.

What would be the point of praying 'thy will be done on earth' if God's will was not to be done?

That prayer is for the here and now. HIS WILL for mankind is for peace and hormonious living together. However, Jesus said that as it was in the days of Noah and Sodom and Gomorrhea----extreme wickedness to point of destruction. Yes, as Paul pointed out to Timothy, the last days will "wax worse and worse to wickedness."

Isn't God's will for heaven good conditions?_____ No one goes to heaven expecting to find pollution in heaven or war in heaven or sickness in heaven. No one goes to heaven to expect to die in heaven.
All those conditions exist on earth. If God's will for heaven is good conditions and we are praying that God's will be done here [earth] as it is in heaven, then aren't we praying for good conditions to also be here on earth? ________

The Prophets and Revelation assure one that the best of conditions will be in heaven for the 1000 years the Redeemed will be there and for the eternity they will be inhabiting the New Earth as declared will occure in Isaiah, Peter, and Revelation.

What did Micah [ 4 vs 3,4 ] write about the future on earth ?_________
Isn't righteousness to dwell on 'earth' according to 2nd Peter 3 v 13 ?

The redeemed peoples of the world will live in the new earth in harmony---"the love your neighbor as yourself"---which isn't seen in the world today..

 

[starlite]

[FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]True...humans have tried to rule themselves. But...what has happened? There are wars and rebellions. There are problems such as poverty, sickness, the destruction of the environment, climate change, and more. Under the rule of God’s King...Jesus, God’s heavenly government, the Kingdom, will undo all the damage that has been done to humans and the earth. Jehovah God's comforting promise will come true: “I am creating new heavens and a new earth; and the[/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]former things will not be called to mind, neither will they come up into the heart.” ([/FONT][FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]Isaiah 65:17[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]) So, keep praying for God's Kingdom to come and for God's will to be done on the earth. ([/FONT][FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]Matthew 6: 9,10[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif])
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[sincerly]

[FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]True...humans have tried to rule themselves. But...what has happened? There are wars and rebellions. There are problems such as poverty, sickness, the destruction of the environment, climate change, and more. Under the rule of God’s King...Jesus, God’s heavenly government, the Kingdom, will undo all the damage that has been done to humans and the earth. Jehovah God's comforting promise will come true: “I am creating new heavens and a new earth; and the[/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]former things will not be called to mind, neither will they come up into the heart.” ([/FONT][FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]Isaiah 65:17[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]) So, keep praying for God's Kingdom to come and for God's will to be done on the earth. ([/FONT][FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]Matthew 6: 9,10[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]) [/FONT]

Hi Starlite, When the serpent/Satan finished indoctrinating the Human family with the same contrary to LOVE which GOD'S kingdom is based upon, chaos began to reign upon this earth. Blame/finger pointing has been the rule for thousands of years.

HIS Prophesied Kingdom is on the verge of "COMING"--- and HIS WILL is being done in the bringing to a Closure of all things so prophesied.
Hold fast to HIS stated Truth for the final events will be fast and decisive.(as stated).

 

[starlite]

HIS Prophesied Kingdom is on the verge of "COMING"--- and HIS WILL is being done in the bringing to a Closure of all things so prophesied.
Hold fast to HIS stated Truth for the final events will be fast and decisive.(as stated).

Dear Sincerly,

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Yes, we are living in the time period that the Bible calls “the last days,”. The last days before what? Just as the Jewish system of things with its worship built around the temple in Jerusalem experienced its last days from 33 to 70 C.E. so, too, this present system of things, which extends worldwide, has entered its last days before God's Kingdom begins it's rule over the earth. And there are signs that Jesus gave to let us know that it is near. Now is the time to watch for the signs and heed the warnings. Let us not be like those of Noah's day who were to busy with the everyday things of life to take note.[/FONT]

 

[sincerly]

Originally Posted by sincerly
HIS Prophesied Kingdom is on the verge of "COMING"--- and HIS WILL is being done in the bringing to a Closure of all things so prophesied.
Hold fast to HIS stated Truth for the final events will be fast and decisive.(as stated).

Dear Sincerly,

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Yes, we are living in the time period that the Bible calls “the last days,”. The last days before what? Just as the Jewish system of things with its worship built around the temple in Jerusalem experienced its last days from 33 to 70 C.E. so, too, this present system of things, which extends worldwide, has entered its last days before God's Kingdom begins it's rule over the earth. And there are signs that Jesus gave to let us know that it is near. Now is the time to watch for the signs and heed the warnings. Let us not be like those of Noah's day who were to busy with the everyday things of life to take note.[/FONT]

Hi starlite, Agreed, before the Coming of Jesus to take the Redeemed(resurrected dead and living righteous) to those awaiting "mansions" in the FATHER'S HOUSE.
The "signs" are becoming more clear daily. The newspapers and media of all types are echoing the truths of the Scriptural Prophesies and their being fulfilled.

What is sad is that five of the ten virgins who claimed to be waiting for HIM actually had not fully prepared for that arrival. That isn't acknowledging the countless number who actually refuse to Believe.

Now is the time, you alluded to, and Peter stated/admonished, for all to "make their calling and election sure". (2Pet.1:10)