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Biblical Contradictions
- Thread starter Vadergirl123
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BobbyisStrange
The Adversary
BobbyisStrange
The Adversary
The contradiction still stands.
BobbyisStrange
The Adversary
Yea this is wrong.
Exodus 12:5-9
5Your lamb shall be without blemish, a year-old male; you may take it from the sheep or from the goats. 6You shall keep it until the fourteenth day of this month; then the whole assembled congregation of Israel shall slaughter it at twilight. 7They shall take some of the blood and put it on the two doorposts and the lintel of the houses in which they eat it. 8They shall eat the lamb that same night; they shall eat it roasted over the fire with unleavened bread and bitter herbs. 9Do not eat any of it raw or boiled in water, but roasted over the fire, with its head, legs, and inner organs.
BobbyisStrange
The Adversary
Luke 22:7-23 Then came the day of Unleavened Bread on which the Passover lamb had to be sacrificed. 8 Jesus sent Peter and John, saying, “Go and make preparations for us to eat the Passover.” 9 “Where do you want us to prepare for it?” they asked. 10 He replied, “As you enter the city, a man carrying a jar of water will meet you. Follow him to the house that he enters, 11 and say to the owner of the house, ‘The Teacher asks: Where is the guest room, where I may eat the Passover with my disciples?’ 12 He will show you a large upper room, all furnished. Make preparations there.” 13 They left and found things just as Jesus had told them. So they prepared the Passover.
14 When the hour came, Jesus and his apostles reclined at the table. 15 And he said to them, “I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer. 16 For I tell you, I will not eat it again until it finds fulfillment in the kingdom of God.” 17 After taking the cup, he gave thanks and said, “Take this and divide it among you. 18 For I tell you I will not drink again of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes.” 19 And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.” 20 In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.
21 But the hand of him who is going to betray me is with mine on the table. 22 The Son of Man will go as it has been decreed, but woe to that man who betrays him.” 23 They began to question among themselves which of them it might be who would do this.
BobbyisStrange
The Adversary
Looks like Jesus pretty much said they were eating the Passover meal.
BobbyisStrange
The Adversary
Jay, have you ever recieved that time line?
I suspect that she is surfing the internet in search of support. I have no doubt that she will find something and energetically promote it as truth, no matter how tenuous the argument or biased the source. This entire thread is an exemplar and stark caricature of selection bias.
Vadergirl123
Active Member
No not wrong. The Jewish day is different is ours. The begining of Nisan 14 would have been the evening(which would have been the end of Nisan 13) then the lamb would have been roasted and then eaten it on the 15th, which would be the night(or the end of the 15th)
Vadergirl123
Active Member
The greek phrase is translated, "epithumia epethumisa" whcih literally means with desire I desired. Epithumia is a noun and can be used to refer to something forbiden. Christ is saying that he wishes he could eat the passover with his disciples, but it's forbiden since it's not yet time to take the passover, and when it happens he won't be able to since he'll be on the cross.
Vadergirl123
Active Member
It's taking me awhile because I have to read over the Biblical passages and make sure I order them correctly. I don't go on the internet to do timelines because I can just do them myself(it's far more challenging and enjoyable that way). I use the internet to read about what other people's opinions are, but just because someone agrees with me, if they make a weak argument which has no scripture basis I won't post it. In fact if someone talks about something on the internet, which does have an accurate biblical basis and goes against what I assume, then I have no problem looking deeper into what they're saying.
Vadergirl123
Active Member
Hey guys, so I've decided to do this thread a little differently. In case you haven't noticed it's been taking me awhile to post on this thread and so I've decided I want to change things up a little bit. If you read the list of contradictions you'll see that soem of them have "christain responses" at the bottom. In fact I've used some of these responses before. Anyway not all of them have that(I'd say maybe between 30-50) and it's these ones I want to focus on. In other words I'm going to still post the contradiction, but I'll just post a link to the site that's refuting it in reply. If you think the contradiction still stands then just post your concerns and we can discuss stuff from there. No I know some of you will see this as stupid, ridiculus, etc. However my goal in this thread was to be done within the year and at the rate I'm going it's going to take well..a lot longer hahaha. It also doesn't make since to me to research "contradictions" when the answers I'll get are the same as in the links, and 463 is alot 
. So I'll spend my personal time on the ones that don't have responses(which is still a good amount) and just post links for the rest.
. So I'll spend my personal time on the ones that don't have responses(which is still a good amount) and just post links for the rest.
BobbyisStrange
The Adversary
BobbyisStrange
The Adversary
No it would have been the end of the 14th or beginning of the 15th.
Vadergirl123
Active Member
The verse was originally written in greek not english, so I used the greek phrase.Oh come onyou are seriously grasping at straws...the verse is beyond explicit.
BobbyisStrange
The Adversary
Instead of just googling and looking for things to fit your ridiculous hypothesis....try reading a Greek bible with English commentary...epithumia can mean all sorts of things but it depends on context, you can't just insert the meaning you want it to mea, it doesn't work that way. Even the theological dictionary of the new testament gives the usage of the Greek word in its proper context.
Epithumia: desire, craving, longing, desire for what is forbidden, lust
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*NAS Word Usage - Total: 38
coveting*2, desire*4, desires*8, earnestly*1, impulses*1, long*1, lust*5, lustful*1, lusts*15
The verse in Luke is translated as just desire because of its context, not desire for what is forbidden.
In Romans 7:7-8 the word epithumia is used for desiring for what is forbidden or coveting.
7 What shall we say then ? Is the Law sin ? May it never be! On the contrary, I would not have come to know sin except through the Law ; for I would not have known about coveting if the Law had not said, "YOU SHALL NOT COVET." 8 But sin, taking opportunity through the commandment, produced in me coveting of every kind ; for apart from the Law sin is dead.
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Dang! And all these centuries Jews, lacking your insight, have been doing it wrong. There's simply no hope for us ...