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Biden wants Congress to approve more hurricane relief. GOP refuses to go back to work.

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
I heard an interview over the radio about some couples who escaped to hotels because they had nowhere else to go , and the price gouging by said hotels would give that $750 emergency fund around 2 days before they would have to fork up more to stay in said price gouging hotels.
I just heard a briefing with Kamala Harris and Joe Biden. Harris made a point of saying that companies or individuals who use this disaster to price gouge will be prosecuted.

I bet you will say that is socialism.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Yes but it is still FEMA funneling its money through its branches. They still give more money to foreign interests than our own citizens.

Will you stop the deceptions now?
NO, it is not FEMA funneling ITS money. When your friend gives you the money to pay the check, it is not your money.

And what is this new weird accusation of FEMA giving money to foreign interests? The money is given so that local governments are not left with the tab for this legally required situation.

Now you could support more money for immigration courts, but without doing that, the status quo will remain the "status quo" no matter what your druthers are.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
One question. Why are they essentially out of money?


Where did it all go?
federal EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
It includes a lot more than just sending water to disaster areas, but this is a question for your Congress critters if you need a more specific answer.

The funding crunch is most dire for the Small Business Administration, which provides loans for homeowners and businesses to rebuild after disasters. The agency is down to weeks’ worth of available funding, officials said.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency, the government’s first responder and disaster-recovery financier, has enough funding to meet Helene and Milton victims’ immediate needs. But if the impacts of the second storm are particularly severe, they could temporarily hamper the agency’s ability to fund ongoing recovery projects nationwide.

Here’s what to know about the cash crunch and how it could affect disaster relief efforts across the country:
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I heard an interview over the radio about some couples who escaped to hotels because they had nowhere else to go , and the price gouging by said hotels would give that $750 emergency fund around 2 days before they would have to fork up more to stay in said price gouging hotels.
One of the problems with these lefties who love price
control is that they exacerbate the problem.
Some friends' tree service company ran into this years
ago. A big storm hit the East Coast. They drove their
equipment there, & charged their regular prices, despite
the high cost of staying in hotels, & eating out. Long
hours & increased work made it worthwhile.
They faced accusations of "price gouging".
The liberal alternative....
Discourage anyone from providing needed services &
good, even when the acquisition cost increases. Tis
better to force the victims to suffer, than to allow
someone to make a buck.

It happened in FL once when someone drove there
with generators to sell at above usual retail price.
Liberals would say they deserve no extra money
for their extra time or extra expense. Tis better
to deny the victims the desired generators.

They hate profit more than they love people.

Harris & Trump are both economic disasters.
But Harris has the significant advantage of
not being a rapey treasonous demented felon.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
If you qualify, which is a big if.
No, it is short term aid Longer term aid with minimal requirements. If you didn't qualify, you probably didn't apply if your house was uninhabitable further assistance will depend on your insurance status and other things,
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
So maybe you just don't understand how government works? Congress budgets money for FEMA for disaster relief and it budgets money to the border patrol entity for its functions. FEMA logically has ongoing capabilities for distributing aid throughout the country, they don't just fly in from some base in DC. The border patrol said, we need do distribute these funds and we don't want to duplicate your infrastructure so here is the money, use it for these immigrants from our budget. Meanwhile, FEMA's disaster budget is running low and they will need more funds to cover the remainder of the hurricane season. Which pot of money is exactly the problem. FEMA needs more money for disaster relief and not because they did a service for the Border Patrol department which was never money in the disaster pot to begin with.

Trump has to do with it because he is amplifying these falsehoods.

Whether you thought/new FEMA would need more money is irrelevant, they only have the budget they were granted by Congress according to their thoughts and it isn't enough so FEMA is going back to ask for more and Congress is dawdling, ultimately at the expense of disaster victims.
Oh I understand how budgets work. Maybe you don't.

I have to work within a budget. If some area of my budget is running low, I pull from another area of my budget and respond accordingly. I think that may be what most people do. I don't just willy nilly send billions to other countries and then cry about budgetary concerns.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
No, it is short term aid Longer term aid with minimal requirements. If you didn't qualify, you probably didn't apply if your house was uninhabitable further assistance will depend on your insurance status and other things,
All I know is that I didn't qualify, AFTER I turned in everything and applied after being inundated by ads from FEMA for weeks and weeks.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Oh I understand how budgets work. Maybe you don't.

I have to work within a budget. If some area of my budget is running low, I pull from another area of my budget and respond accordingly. I think that may be what most people do. I don't just willy nilly send billions to other countries and then cry about budgetary concerns.
You may understand budgets, but not how the federal budget works or apparently how to read English, what you are describing is not what is happening as evidenced by the article you posted.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
All I know is that I didn't qualify, AFTER I turned in everything and applied after being inundated by ads from FEMA for weeks and weeks.
My personal prediction....

Just watch at how many of our citizens in desperate need that the Democrats will ought right refuse to help and simultaneously watch the massive funds that are going to illegals that is eagerly and quickly approved.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
All I know is that I didn't qualify, AFTER I turned in everything and applied after being inundated by ads from FEMA for weeks and weeks.
Well then I guess you didn't qualify, that is why they asked for all that paperwork to see if you met the standards for emergency need. Sort of the way it works and so you got mail, have you ever noticed that that happens whatever you apply for or even respond to on the internet?
Click on some random add and watch how many times the same or similar ads shoe up on your browser.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Well then I guess you didn't qualify, that is why they asked for all that paperwork to see if you met the standards for emergency need. Sort of the way it works and so you got mail, have you ever noticed that that happens whatever you apply for or even respond to on the internet?
Click on some random add and watch how many times the same or similar ads shoe up on your browser.
No, I didn't qualify, after spending over an hour on the paperwork and being inundated by ads for weeks and weeks and weeks, maybe even months and months. You'd think they'd at least have a better system for denying someone a bit of assistance.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
You may understand budgets, but not how the federal budget works or apparently how to read English, what you are describing is not what is happening as evidenced by the article you posted.
Oh I get it, but I don't agree with it.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Ok, I will vote for Trump because his policies are correct. You vote for Kamala because you hate Trump.
So you can't demonstrate it. Surprise! It's just empty rhetoric, not rooted in reality. Like the stuff Trump says.


Yes, I hate people who sexually assault people and defame them. Not sure why you don't and I find that rather alarming. All because Trump's policies are so great? What policies??
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
My personal prediction....

Just watch at how many of our citizens in desperate need that the Democrats will ought right refuse to help and simultaneously watch the massive funds that are going to illegals that is eagerly and quickly approved.
And there you go claiming it yet again.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
My personal prediction....

Just watch at how many of our citizens in desperate need that the Democrats will ought right refuse to help and simultaneously watch the massive funds that are going to illegals that is eagerly and quickly approved.
This is just irrational conspiracy nonsense, FEMA applications are evaluated by career civil servants who have no idea of your politics and would be fired for even asking, they are the same people which ever party is in power though Trump has indicated he would like to change that.

As for immigrant aid, that is a completely separate path that just happens to use part of the same highway as you have had explained to you numerous times.

Repeated whigning about nonsensical hypothetical scenarios does nothing to make anyone want to take you seriously.
Boy who cried wolf and all that.
 
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