Big bang theory?

[Dirty Penguin]

So you want to discuss your quote of a fiction character from a science fiction movie....as a part of this thread?

Nope.....That's why I made a "comment".....to show how his comment came close to my signature......

Originally Posted by Vansdad
Religion was just trying to interpret the feelings that people already had about their belief in a Creator.

 

[Thief]

Well then back to topic....

Big Bang....

God did it.

 

[Know it all.]

Religion was just trying to interpret the feelings that people already had about their belief in a Creator.

To followup on why this is so insightful is that surely the creation and God came first and people knew these obviously and so then later came the religions as expressions of their faith.

As like the Native American Indians did not have the Bible or Quran or Gita but they still knew about the Creator and the creation.

:bow:

 

[McBell]

I'm doing just fine...thank you.

Of that I have no doubt.

 

[EtuMalku]

To followup on why this is so insightful is that surely the creation and God came first and people knew these obviously and so then later came the religions as expressions of their faith.

As like the Native American Indians did not have the Bible or Quran or Gita but they still knew about the Creator and the creation.

:bow:

I believe many North American Indigenous tribes had a very Pagan-like view on Life. They were more like Egyptian religion than any Monotheistic religion.

What you refer to as "God" I presume is the Abrahamic god? If so, then this Archetype (they are all archetypes you know) was Created by Man, for Man . . . much like the Dog, which is ironic in itself for obvious reasons.

What is referred to as God by most is the Principle of Natural Order, the Objective Universe personified. There really isn't any god. :sad:

 

[Dirty Penguin]

I believe many North American Indigenous tribes had a very Pagan-like view on Life. They were more like Egyptian religion than any Monotheistic religion.

What you refer to as "God" I presume is the Abrahamic god? If so, then this Archetype (they are all archetypes you know) was Created by Man, for Man . . . much like the Dog, which is ironic in itself for obvious reasons.

What is referred to as God by most is the Principle of Natural Order, the Objective Universe personified. There really isn't any god. :sad:

See, I got blasted because I said stuff like this sounds really close to my signature (regardless of who said it or whatever movie it came from). The fact remains....

 

[Dirty Penguin]

To followup on why this is so insightful is that surely the creation and God came first

The point is there's no evidence to support this. Belief and faith don't count as evidence.

and people knew these obviously and so then later came the religions as expressions of their faith.

They knew nothing which is why they developed gods to explain that which they were ignorant of.

As like the Native American Indians did not have the Bible or Quran or Gita but they still knew about the Creator and the creation.

One needs no book to believe in a god or gods and ascribe all that exist to that which does not. Just as rain, lightning, thunder, earthquakes were attributed to gods but as we progressed in our knowledge of the natural world we put away childish beliefs. Well, at least some us have......

 

[outhouse]

they still dont realize the direct correlation of education, intellegence and the belief of myths

The average public in the USA is what like at a %85 belief ratio in a god.

The most brilliant mind the world has to offer is only at a %15 belief ratio

 

[outhouse]

the less knowledge one possesses, the more one reaches for ole magic man to bail his empty mind out.

it has always been this way.

gods were imagined to answer the questions man could not. this is a fact.

 

[rusra02]

That is nuts. But the Hebrew bible doesnt state that.
I bought some commentaries from Ramban/Rashi and their insight is amazing .
Its the English "Bible" that you are quoting.

You are correct. The Bible doesn't state that, as I posted previously. The sun, moon, and stars were in existence apparently billions of years when God began preparing the earth for man.

 

[Onlooker]

You are correct. The Bible doesn't state that, as I posted previously. The sun, moon, and stars were in existence apparently billions of years when God began preparing the earth for man.

Thats right, solar system 4.6 bill, earth 4.4 bill,prokaryotic cells 3.5 bill, oxygen levels rise about 2.7-2.2 billion years ago,eukaryotic 1-3 bill, plant fossils 542 mill......
disorder to order. Chaos to clarity. "And God saw that it is was good."

 

[Know it all.]

I believe many North American Indigenous tribes had a very Pagan-like view on Life. They were more like Egyptian religion than any Monotheistic religion.

I say all paths lead to the same creator Father God, so it surely does not matter that some forms of religion are less or more informed, or some being more accurate then others.

Not everything is a competition nor to be deemed in competitive equations.

What you refer to as "God" I presume is the Abrahamic god? If so, then this Archetype (they are all archetypes you know) was Created by Man, for Man . . . much like the Dog, which is ironic in itself for obvious reasons.

Actually I was in fact preaching about my own God as like the God of "Know it all", but I do indeed appreciate the Abrahamic God too.

I speak only for myself and no one else.

What is referred to as God by most is the Principle of Natural Order, the Objective Universe personified. There really isn't any god. :sad:

As you say "the Principle of Natural Order" is another way of referring to God, just as you say "the Objective Universe personified" is also another way of naming God, so you are the one giving the God thing other names.

I still say we need to go by the words of Albert Einstein in that some scientist are "lame" just as some religious people are "blind", quote link.

As like a religious person that denies the "Big Bang" is lame and a science person denying the Big Bang as a creation day is blind.

Many religious people are indeed stubborn stupid as we all know, but many scientist are quite stupid too.

There are people that use science to explain how the World Trade Centers on 9-11 were done as a big elaborate hoax, and other scientist are working on little green aliens.

The thing that has been repeatedly posted on this thread is that the hard scientific evidence does show that the "Big Bang" is in fact scientific proof that there was a creation day, and the Big Bang is proof of Genesis 1:1 being correct and true, and note that the Bible does not say "creation day" as it says "In the beginning ..." which means that the Big Bang shows the Bible has given an accurate account. Of course science does not use the word God but saying the Big Bang" was a "natural" event or that the "Universe" did it then those are just using different words for the God thing.

A Christian that denies the Big Bang is just as blind as a scientist is lame who denies that same evidence as a creation day.

:clap

 

[outhouse]

no one created anything

no god created man as stated, i guess the book lied

no god created a worlwide flood that murdered humanity as stated, i guess the book lied

no god created the planet as stated, i guess the book lied

no god created woman from a mans rib as stated, i guess the book lied.

no god created the heaven and stars as stated, i guess the book lied again.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

no god created man as stated, i guess the book lied

Correct. This is solely a faith based claim.

no god created a worlwide flood that murdered humanity as stated, i guess the book lied

Correct. We have a plethora of anthropological and geological evidence that says it never happened and could never happen as it is described in that book.

no god created the planet as stated, i guess the book lied

Correct. At the present time this is viewed as solely a faith based claim with no evidence to suggest otherwise.

no god created woman from a mans rib as stated, i guess the book lied.

Correct. This is not possible considering you need 26 male and 26 female chromosomes to produce offspring. Additionally mtDNA is passed only from the female not from males.

no god created the heaven and stars as stated, i guess the book lied again.

Correct. There is no evidence to suggest god(s) exist let alone were responsible for "creating" the universe. This appears solely a faith based claim.

 

[rusra02]

no one created anything

no god created man as stated, i guess the book lied

Right. It all just poofed into existence. Men lie.

no god created a worlwide flood that murdered humanity as stated, i guess the book lied

Right. God doesn't murder. As the Creator and life giver, he has both the right and the authority to execute wrongdoers. Men lie. Jehovah always tells the truth.

no god created the planet as stated, i guess the book lied

See response above.

no god created woman from a mans rib as stated, i guess the book lied.

And you know this because you were there to see? You guess wrong.

no god created the heaven and stars as stated, i guess the book lied again.

See response above. Saying the universe wasn't created is far more absurd than saying about a chair 'It just came into existence to sit on'. And saying that about a chair is VERY absurd.
Order comes from chaos only when acted upon by an Orderer. The ultimate orderer is Jehovah. (1 Corinthians 14:40) You may not know that now, but you will.

 

[outhouse]

chair 'It just came into existence to sit on'.

a chair is not NATURE

you believe in a worldwide flood that never happened

how much credibility do you think you have?

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Saying the universe wasn't created is far more absurd...........

Wrong.....Stating emphatically the universe was "created" or "must have been created" is completely a faith based claim. There is absolutely no evidence of a created universe.

 

[PolyHedral]

Order comes from chaos only when acted upon by an Orderer.

Your argument is invalid.

 

[Know it all.]

Wrong.....Stating emphatically the universe was "created" or "must have been created" is completely a faith based claim. There is absolutely no evidence of a created universe.

The proof of the "Big Bang" is direct scientific proof of the creation day.

So there is no need of faith from that evidence unless you mean having the faith that there really was a Big Bang.

The Big Bang = the Creation day.

:clap

 

[McBell]

The proof of the "Big Bang" is direct scientific proof of the creation day.

So there is no need of faith from that evidence unless you mean having the faith that there really was a Big Bang.

The Big Bang = the Creation day.

:clap

You keep saying this, but you do not support it with anything other than your faith.
Perhaps your definition of the word "proof" is different?