Bill Maher Says A Bad Word

[It Aint Necessarily So]

Bill Maher is tame compared to The Boondocks.

I guess that you didn't like that show. I did. It was edgy. The characters were vibrant, and the animation good.

 

[Revoltingest]

I guess that you didn't like that show. I did. It was edgy. The characters were vibrant, and the animation good.

I love that show!
Uncle, Grandad, Huey, Tom, Riley, Colonel Stinkmeaner, etc, etc.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

I recall many years ago when a (white) DC city official used a word which means "stingy" or "miserly," which unfortunately sounds a lot like the "n-word." He was eventually forced to resign due to such an outcry, although there were some blacks who said that the response was a gross overreaction.

I mourn the loss of the phrase tar baby. It too has become a racial epithet, but originally referred to a situation that one could get into, but had much greater difficulty getting out of, as was the case with Br'er Rabbit. That term nicely described situations like Vietnam and Iraq. Now , it is lost for that use:

 

[Revoltingest]

I mourn the loss of the phrase tar baby. It too has become a racial epithet, but originally referred to a situation that one could get into, but had much greater difficulty getting out of, as was the case with Br'er Rabbit. That term nicely described situations like Vietnam and Iraq. Now , it is lost for that use:

I still use "tar baby" to describe such things.
Ain't got'n no negative feedback yet.

 

[Stevicus]

I mourn the loss of the phrase tar baby. It too has become a racial epithet, but originally referred to a situation that one could get into, but had much greater difficulty getting out of, as was the case with Br'er Rabbit. That term nicely described situations like Vietnam and Iraq. Now , it is lost for that use:

I understand that "tar baby" is considered a racial epithet, although to be honest, I've never actually heard or seen it used as such. Even people whom I've known who routinely used racial epithets, that particular one seemed absent from their lexicon.

My grandparents were from an area of the country where usage of the "n-word" was common, although in their time, the word "colored" was considered the "nice" term. But then that also became viewed as an epithet, although "person of color" is considered acceptable. It does seem rather odd, when you think about it.

 

[Revoltingest]

The inference of racism appears to be mischievous & meta-racist.
We should not allow our speech to be limited by such scurrilous victimhood trafficers.

Ref...
Tar-Baby - Wikipedia
Some highlights.....

The Tar-Baby is the second of the Uncle Remus stories published in 1880; it is about a doll made of tar and turpentine used by the villainous Br'er Fox to entrap Br'er Rabbit. The more that Br'er Rabbit fights the Tar-Baby, the more entangled he becomes.

In modern usage, "tar baby" refers to any "sticky situation" that is only aggravated by additional involvement with it.

Racist interpretation[edit]
Although the term's provenance rests in African folklore (i.e., the gum doll Anansi created to trap Mmoatia), some Americans consider "tar baby" to be a pejorative term for African Americans.[15] The Oxford English Dictionary defines "tar baby" as "a difficult problem which is only aggravated by attempts to solve it",[16] but the online subscription-only version adds a second definition: "a derogatory term for a Black (U.S.) or a Maori (N.Z.)".[17][18]

Several United States politicians—including presidential candidates John Kerry, John McCain, Michele Bachmann, and Mitt Romney—have been criticized by civil rights leaders, the media, and fellow politicians for using the "tar baby" metaphor.[18][19] An article in The New Republic argued that people are "unaware that some consider it to have a second meaning as a slur" and it "is an obscure slur, not even known to be so by a substantial proportion of the population." It continued that, "those who feel that tar baby's status as a slur is patently obvious are judging from the fact that it sounds like a racial slur".[20]

In other countries, the phrase continues to refer to problems worsened by intervention.[21]

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I guess that you didn't like that show. I did. It was edgy. The characters were vibrant, and the animation good.

I see no reason pointing out the show is way more full blast than Maher means you don't like it. With all the Boondocks has, it makes me wonder if any white liberals were involved with it. As for me, Uncle Ruckus cracks me up (I especially love his line/nod towards Blazing Saddles just because that's such a wonderful movie) and the first episode with Stinkmeaner had me rolling. And of course Bill Maher's mouth has nothing on the mouths of Samuel L Jackson and Charlie Murphy.

 

[james bond]

Then you are blaming an imaginary problem on someone who doesn't deserve it.


Citation needed.

The holocaust, social Darwinism fascism and black genocide were not imaginary.

>>Citation needed<<

Never fear. Bond is here. And Bill Maher will take it up the rear, but not the way he wants it.

See the links in #1
Darwin's Theory of Evolution and Darwinism Has Led To The Holocaust And Genocide Of Blacks

 

[james bond]

Made ya look! Made ya look!

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You're still wrong. Bahahahaahahahah.

If you start off on the wrong path and deviate just slightly, even though you may think it's the right path, then you can be very wrong a few hours later. That's why it's important to be careful when following directions and taking a given path. In your case, I suppose you were following your own brain.

It's not REALLY funny to see you off the beaten path, but if you're laughing, then we're all laughing .

 

[james bond]

Oh, that thread where you illuminated your misunderstanding of darwinism, social darwinism, and the Holocaust?

Pfft.
You're not fooling anyone but yourself.

I did not misunderstand. Hitler was a big fan of Darwin and wrote him to tell him. Just where do you think he got these ideas? Morevover, atheists lie about attributing Hitler to Christianity so that's further evidence of guilt through misdirection from the Darwin camp. We need to get rid of Darwin Day in February and burn him in effigy.

 

[columbus]

Oh, that thread where you illuminated your misunderstanding of darwinism, social darwinism, and the Holocaust?

Pfft.
You're not fooling anyone but yourself.

It's even more dishonest than that.

People attributing these ugly things to science are trying to cover up the ancient tradition of lethal bigotry on the part of Christian culture. That was supported by Scripture and everyone who's honest can see it.

But that's an inconvenient truth for people who would rather believe that Scriptures have always supported secular humanist values. Like basic human dignity and rights.
Tom

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

Hitler was a big fan of Darwin and wrote him to tell him.

Hitler contacted Darwin? How? With a Ouija Board?

Just where do you think he got these ideas?

Luther :

"What shall we Christians do with this rejected and condemned people, the Jews"

• "First, to set fire to their synagogues or schools … This is to be done in honor of our Lord and of Christendom, so that God might see that we are Christians …"
• "Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed."
• "Third, I advise that all their prayer books and Talmudic writings, in which such idolatry, lies, cursing, and blasphemy are taught, be taken from them."
• "Fourth, I advise that their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth on pain of loss of life and limb …"
• "Fifth, I advise that safe-conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews. For they have no business in the countryside …"
• "Sixth, I advise that usury be prohibited to them, and that all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them …"
• "Seventh, I recommend putting a flail, an ax, a hoe, a spade, a distaff, or a spindle into the hands of young, strong Jews and Jewesses and letting them earn their bread in the sweat of their brow … But if we are afraid that they might harm us or our wives, children, servants, cattle, etc., … then let us emulate the common sense of other nations such as France, Spain, Bohemia, etc., … then eject them forever from the country …"

 

[Kilgore Trout]

I did not misunderstand. Hitler was a big fan of Darwin and wrote him to tell him. Just where do you think he got these ideas? Morevover, atheists lie about attributing Hitler to Christianity so that's further evidence of guilt through misdirection from the Darwin camp. We need to get rid of Darwin Day in February and burn him in effigy.

Darwin died 7 years before Hitler was born. I realize basic fact checking isn't fashionable with certain people, but even a basic understanding of history should clue any thinking person into the fact that Hitler writing Darwin a letter doesn't make any sense. Apart from the fact that any working BS meter should starting going off as soon as they heard such an obviously made-up story.

 

[Callisto]

I did not misunderstand. Hitler was a big fan of Darwin and wrote him to tell him. Just where do you think he got these ideas?

Uhm, no.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Hitler was a big fan of Darwin and wrote him to tell him.

That's very impossible for Hitler to have done since Darwin died several years before Hitler was born. Hitler also never actually acknowledged Darwin as inspiration, and the "social Darwinism" is not something Darwin himself thought of or endorsed (it's actually the opposite of what Darwin did write), and it isn't even a scientific hypothesis or theory.

Morevover, atheists lie about attributing Hitler to Christianity

I'm guessing you've never read Mein Kampf, because all throughout it is saturated with Hitler writing about god and doing god's will and struggling for a Christian Germany.

People attributing these ugly things to science are trying to cover up the ancient tradition of lethal bigotry on the part of Christian culture. That was supported by Scripture and everyone who's honest can see it.

But that's an inconvenient truth for people who would rather believe that Scriptures have always supported secular humanist values. Like basic human dignity and rights.

Those things the Bible actually supports is why I do not accept Christianity as a source of Secular Humanism values. Secular Humanism is patient with rebellious teens rather than demanding they be put to death, Secular Humanism allows for freedom of religion which is explicitly prohibited in the Bible, Secular Humanism treats women like humans instead of property, and Secular Humanism is tolerance towards others instead of calling them fools and wicked and saying you shouldn't associate with others. Jesus may have said to turn the other cheek, but he also said to kill those who don't want him to reign over them, and in front of him to boot.

 

[metis]

The concept that Hitler was a fan or student of Darwin is just so terribly wrong, but it's become a disingenuous mantra from some on the right. Here's a Wiki article on a book endorsed by the creationist "Discovery Institute" and written by Richard Weikart entitled "From Darwin To Hitler": From Darwin to Hitler - Wikipedia

The article includes refutations by other scientists.

 

[james bond]

That's very impossible for Hitler to have done since Darwin died several years before Hitler was born. Hitler also never actually acknowledged Darwin as inspiration, and the "social Darwinism" is not something Darwin himself thought of or endorsed (it's actually the opposite of what Darwin did write), and it isn't even a scientific hypothesis or theory.

I'm guessing you've never read Mein Kampf, because all throughout it is saturated with Hitler writing about god and doing god's will and struggling for a Christian Germany.

Those things the Bible actually supports is why I do not accept Christianity as a source of Secular Humanism values. Secular Humanism is patient with rebellious teens rather than demanding they be put to death, Secular Humanism allows for freedom of religion which is explicitly prohibited in the Bible, Secular Humanism treats women like humans instead of property, and Secular Humanism is tolerance towards others instead of calling them fools and wicked and saying you shouldn't associate with others. Jesus may have said to turn the other cheek, but he also said to kill those who don't want him to reign over them, and in front of him to boot.

Good point. Maybe I misread it. His letters had something to do with Darwin's cousin Francis Galton and Eugenics. Hitler wrote to say he was a big fan of Eugenics and that pseudoscience was influenced by Darwin.

"Eugenics, the selection of desired heritable characteristics in order to improve future generations, typically in reference to humans. The term eugenics was coined in 1883 by British explorer and natural scientist Francis Galton, who, influenced by Charles Darwin’s theory of natural selection, advocated a system that would allow “the more suitable races or strains of blood a better chance of prevailing speedily over the less suitable.” Social Darwinism, the popular theory in the late 19th century that life for humans in society was ruled by “survival of the fittest,” helped advance eugenics into serious scientific study in the early 1900s. By World War I, many scientific authorities and political leaders supported eugenics. However, it ultimately failed as a science in the 1930s and ’40s, when the assumptions of eugenicists became heavily criticized and the Nazis used eugenics to support the extermination of entire races."

eugenics | Description, History, & Modern Eugenics

Darwin himself, put in the words "survival of the fittest" to represent natural selection in the fifth edition of the Origin of Species. Herbert Spencer, who coined the term, wrote, "This survival of the fittest, which I have here sought to express in mechanical terms, is that which Mr. Darwin has called 'natural selection', or the preservation of favoured races in the struggle for life." *

* Herbert Spencer in his Principles of Biology of 1864, vol. 1, p. 444, wrote: 'This survival of the fittest, which I have here sought to express in mechanical terms, is that which Mr. Darwin has called "natural selection", or the preservation of favoured races in the struggle for life.'" Maurice E. Stucke, Better Competition Advocacy, retrieved 29 August 2007, citing HERBERT SPENCER, THE PRINCIPLES OF BIOLOGY 444 (Univ. Press of the Pac. 2002.)

Darwin was racist. He wrote it himself in The Descent of Man.

"At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes, as Professor Schaaffhausen has remarked, will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla (p. 521)."

Darwin, Evolution, and Racism

Darwin was influenced by the pseudoscientific racism of his time.

>>I'm guessing you've never read Mein Kampf, because all throughout it is saturated with Hitler writing about god and doing god's will and struggling for a Christian Germany.<<

Just where does Hitler do this?

>>Those things the Bible actually supports is why I do not accept Christianity as a source of Secular Humanism values. Secular Humanism is patient with rebellious teens rather than demanding they be put to death, Secular Humanism allows for freedom of religion which is explicitly prohibited in the Bible, Secular Humanism treats women like humans instead of property, and Secular Humanism is tolerance towards others instead of calling them fools and wicked and saying you shouldn't associate with others. Jesus may have said to turn the other cheek, but he also said to kill those who don't want him to reign over them, and in front of him to boot.<<

The group itself has had some terrific infighting in order to make atheism more acceptable, moral and humane. I think it's founder has been kicked out ha ha.

EDIT: What has stood the test of time is The Communist Manifesto. I can cite the atheism chapters there for you.

 

[metis]

When discussing Darwin, we should always put him into the context of both the times and also his very limited availability of evidence as compared to what we now know. It's like citing Freud's errors without realizing that much more as been ascertained in psychology since he did his studies.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Darwin himself, put in the words "survival of the fittest" to represent natural selection in the fifth edition of the Origin of Species.

Darwin actually wrote that social animals evolve this thing called a conscience to aid in group cohesion. This does not fit in with the nonsense of "Social Darwinism."

Just where does Hitler do this?

All throughout Mein Kampf.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

All throughout Mein Kampf

It's been a while but I don't recall that. He did go on about how the conflicts between Protestantism and Catholicism were detrimental to the unity of Germany but I don't recall him stating he wanted a Christian Germany in that book. Hitler also didn't really care about Christianity and the leading Nazis planned to destroy it since Nazism is really its own religion. They knew that Christianity and Nazism were incompatible. They tried to blend the two but their experiments didn't work. He used the term "Creator" in a generic way.