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"Black History Month."

whereismynotecard

Treasure Hunter
There is nothing special about being white. There is nothing special about being black. It's just a skin tone/where your ancestors were from. As an individual, it doesn't matter what colour my skin is or where my ancestors were from. My great grandfather was a Cherokee Native American, but does this mean I personally have overcome a hardship about being native american? I don't like it when all of this time later, people feel the need to say black people have overcome so much, because the black people who are alive today, while some have been discriminted against, weren't slaves; black people who are my age weren't alive when there were separate water fountains and schools, so they don't have to have special recognition. All of my life, I have seen black people as people just as important as white people. There is no difference rather than appearance.

I just think it's about time we push all of the history and recognition together. Anything about our country, black history, native american history, women's history, should all be included equally. In my history classes, we did learn about slavery and segregation, and about Martin Luther King Jr. and Rosa Parks. We learned about all of that, and it wasn't specifically in february. We don't need to re-learn everything that involved black people each february. I think anyone who doesn't realize slavery and segregation was mean won't get anything out of black history month anyway, so we don't need it.
 

J Bryson

Well-Known Member
I used to get annoyed that there was a Black History Month, but no White History Month.

Then I realized that every month was White History Month.

As far as Black Power and White Power go? One is about overcoming centuries of oppression and making one's voice heard. The other has historically been about maintaining the oppression and smothering any other voice.
 

leahrachelle

Active Member
I beg to differ.In this country they did.And yes they were "born black" and because of that they were considered less as a people.How they climbed out of that...how they fought to be treated as human beings in this country is "something special" to me.

Love

Dallas
But they make a HUGE production out of it... White people have done amazing things, too. So have asians, chinese, hispanics, etc. We don't block off a month of the year to celebrate our race's accomplishments. And if we did, you know we would be called racist for it.
 

leahrachelle

Active Member
Also ..I hate to say this..but you are quite frankly delusional if you think black people had a hard time "200" years ago.

Maybe you should actually look and learn during black history month instead of getting so defensive.Maybe(no offense) its out there for people to learn from so young people like you dont think it was one time 200 years ago that black people sufferred atrocities.

Love

Dallas
Obviously you can't recall possibly 50 times in your life when a black person has made a comment about us and slavery. Because I can.
It is their excuse for everything.
 

leahrachelle

Active Member
If I celebrate my INDIVIDUAL birthday and others do so with me..Is that celebration a statement that I am "better" than anyone else?

Love

Dallas
If you were the only person that celebrated your birthday, yes..
Just as they are the only race that has a month of history celebration
 

leahrachelle

Active Member
There is nothing special about being white. There is nothing special about being black. It's just a skin tone/where your ancestors were from. As an individual, it doesn't matter what colour my skin is or where my ancestors were from. My great grandfather was a Cherokee Native American, but does this mean I personally have overcome a hardship about being native american? I don't like it when all of this time later, people feel the need to say black people have overcome so much, because the black people who are alive today, while some have been discriminted against, weren't slaves; black people who are my age weren't alive when there were separate water fountains and schools, so they don't have to have special recognition. All of my life, I have seen black people as people just as important as white people. There is no difference rather than appearance.

I just think it's about time we push all of the history and recognition together. Anything about our country, black history, native american history, women's history, should all be included equally. In my history classes, we did learn about slavery and segregation, and about Martin Luther King Jr. and Rosa Parks. We learned about all of that, and it wasn't specifically in february. We don't need to re-learn everything that involved black people each february. I think anyone who doesn't realize slavery and segregation was mean won't get anything out of black history month anyway, so we don't need it.
Frubals
 

jamaesi

To Save A Lamb
Wow. Actually it's a pity that black history isn't taught MORE in all months so we don't have to listen to thinly veiled racism and the whines of "wah slavery ended like, um, like a totally long time ago" every time February rolls around.

I mean, really guys, IIRC the last lynching of a black person in America took place in the 1980s. Do you even know what happened during those lynchings? It's not just as simple as a black person got hung by a group of white people. Innocent black people were lynched for being black. Men, women, children, entire families were lynched. Pregnant women were lynched and while they were dying they would have their stomachs cut open, their fetus pulled out and stomped to death. After a lynching the mob would rush up to cut apart the body and take pieces of bone as "souvenirs". Sometimes before the person died from being lynched they would be burned to death.

I've never seen a history book in school that actually teaches the horror of what slaves went through. Oh, well, they were well-treated for the most part, you know, we only beat them when they got uppity. No, really, they liked being slaves, they were protected by their masters...

I truly wish they would go into graphic detail about slavery and the oppression of blacks. It didn't end with slavery. It's still going on today. If you don't think so, congratulations, you're probably white and have never experienced what real racism (no, someone going "oh you're like um, like so totally white" does not count as racism, sorry) is like. Must be nice. Get out a little, read a book, and figure out what really happened and what's really going on.
 

Stellify

StarChild
I've never seen a history book in school that actually teaches the horror of what slaves went through. Oh, well, they were well-treated for the most part, you know, we only beat them when they got uppity. No, really, they liked being slaves, they were protected by their masters...

I truly wish they would go into graphic detail about slavery and the oppression of blacks. It didn't end with slavery. It's still going on today. If you don't think so, congratulations, you're probably white and have never experienced what real racism (no, someone going "oh you're like um, like so totally white" does not count as racism, sorry) is like. Must be nice. Get out a little, read a book, and figure out what really happened and what's really going on.
Really? That's sad... Most of my professors went out of their way (and probably risked getting in trouble) to really bring home what happened....Not just the stories themselves, but graphic pictures, testimonials, etc. I've seen more than one classroom (including the teacher himself) in tears over the events that have surrounded US black history. I was always thankful for that...Not just so that the "non-black" kids would be educated, but so that the black kids would be, too. A lot of them had no idea what had really gone on, either.
 

iloveislam

Muslim
If I celebrate my INDIVIDUAL birthday and others do so with me..Is that celebration a statement that I am "better" than anyone else?

We are all equal in the Sight of Allah, except by righteousness.

When a child is born, that child did not choose to be:


  • born to a specific race
  • born in a specific culture
  • born in a specific country
  • born to rich parents or poor parents
  • born male or female
  • etc.
So Allah Will not Judge us because of what we have no control over, but Allah Will Judge us by how righteous we are.

If it is to educate people about the 'history of black people' then there's no need to have a specific month devoted to it.

Putting 'the history of black people' in the curriculum of schools/colleges etc. is enough.

Just imagine if we had a month devoted to the 'history of Muslims' in the west. There would've been so much hatred among people and may've sparked heated debates as to whether we should have them or not.
 

stacey bo bacey

oh no you di'int
Stacey???How are you being "punished" ??

Love

Dallas


Exsqueeze me? When did I ever convey that I felt punished?

All I said is I'm in favor of no special months or days (for anyone, white, black, whatever) and that I was going to try to not be afraid to say I'm proud to white. Which, by the way, you said black pride doesn't = white shame....I never felt that way about the issue so I have no idea where that came from. Unless you were just stating an opinion.
 
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stacey bo bacey

oh no you di'int
Well, in my high school my history teachers always kind of "put aside" the black history section until black history month, since they knew they would be required to teach it then, anyways.
I can't speak for other schools, though.

:sarcasticHrrmmm...yea that never happened with me. Strange and kinda mean that they did that with you guys...
 

Ciscokid

Well-Known Member
Is it just me, or is that extremely racist? The idea of having to have a seperate month for the history of a certain race? Why not just put all of the history together and call it history? If we don't, we are going to need a Hispanic History Month, an Asian History Month, an English History Month, and so on... I thought a long time ago this country figured seperate but equal wasn't equal, so why is our history seprated based on race?


I think it's a bit overboard myself. In the end I'm not so sure it really has any major impact. I don't see people celebrating black history month, it's just there. I think Martin Luther King day probably does a much better job of putting the Blacks into the spotlight.

Celebrating a race or culture for an entire month is absurd.
 

jamaesi

To Save A Lamb
We are all equal in the Sight of Allah, except by righteousness.

When a child is born, that child did not choose to be:


  • born to a specific race
  • born in a specific culture
  • born in a specific country
  • born to rich parents or poor parents
  • born male or female
  • etc.
So Allah Will not Judge us because of what we have no control over, but Allah Will Judge us by how righteous we are.

If it is to educate people about the 'history of black people' then there's no need to have a specific month devoted to it.

Putting 'the history of black people' in the curriculum of schools/colleges etc. is enough.

Just imagine if we had a month devoted to the 'history of Muslims' in the west. There would've been so much hatred among people and may've sparked heated debates as to whether we should have them or not.

Ever heard of something called making the halal haram? Yeah, you want to be careful about not doing that.

If you can show me where G-d or Muhammad, peace be upon you, said something like "and lo, verily ALLAH is the most merciful and forgiving, and ALLAH commands you never to have educational months based on race or ethnicity or stuff like that duntchaknow!~" I will totally agree with you.

HOWEVER, I really doubt you can. I think you're just treading into dangerous territory asserting that having a black history month is wrong.


And you know what? I think Muslims need a black history month. I've noticed that every single one of your posts is that everyone is equal and stuff like that, but... sadly that's not how it is. There's horrible racism in the ummah, so much that a darker skinned muslimah has to worry about ever finding a spouse. Skin bleaching creams, which are basically poison in a bottle, are used throughout the Middle East and South Asia.. ads like this and this are shown because if you aren't light then well you can't get that job or that cute husband...
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
Putting 'the history of black people' in the curriculum of schools/colleges etc. is enough.

Just imagine if we had a month devoted to the 'history of Muslims' in the west. There would've been so much hatred among people and may've sparked heated debates as to whether we should have them or not.

And that would be wrong.Thats exactly what we should be against.Hatred and opression and keeping people in ignorance.

I for one think the "West" could be enlightnened by "history of the Muslims in the west".Or "history of the Muslims PERIOD!".

Love

Dallas
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
And you know what? I think Muslims need a black history month. I've noticed that every single one of your posts is that everyone is equal and stuff like that, but... sadly that's not how it is. There's horrible racism in the ummah, so much that a darker skinned muslimah has to worry about ever finding a spouse. Skin bleaching creams, which are basically poison in a bottle, are used throughout the Middle East and South Asia.. ads like this and this are shown because if you aren't light then well you can't get that job or that cute husband...

See..I didnt know that..that is horrible and sad.Thank you for educating me.

Love

Dallas
 

whereismynotecard

Treasure Hunter
I've never seen a history book in school that actually teaches the horror of what slaves went through. Oh, well, they were well-treated for the most part, you know, we only beat them when they got uppity. No, really, they liked being slaves, they were protected by their masters...

Who is we here?

and I don't know what backwards schools all of you had, but we were not taught that people enjoyed being slaves.
 
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