Bob the atheist?

[Willamena]

your lack of consideration cannot stand well to someone who has considered

choose.....Moses actually met Someone Greater than himself.....
or Moses held his own power of the ten plagues of Egypt

I'll take your word on it, with an appropriate grain of salt.

 

[Thief]

I'll take your word on it, with an appropriate grain of salt.

you cannot take my word for it.

the choice is yours...and I am not your prophet

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Only in that you've misquoted me.

Where, exactly?

 

[Willamena]

Where, exactly?

I refer you to post #392 and ask you to examine each of the sentences.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I refer you to post #392 and ask you to examine each of the sentences.

Whoops - I left out a "not". My mistake.

Anyhow, my point was that when you say that people who are ignorant of most gods can still be disbelievers, you're contradicting what you said when you said "the disbeliever is not ignorant and could not be."

 

[Willamena]

you cannot take my word for it.

the choice is yours...and I am not your prophet

I am my prophet, but you're the one feeding me lines.

 

[Willamena]

Whoops - I left out a "not". My mistake.

Anyhow, my point was that when you say that people who are ignorant of most gods can still be disbelievers, you're contradicting what you said when you said "the disbeliever is not ignorant and could not be."

People are not ignorant of gods, they only know what gods they know. And those are what will determine their atheism, not the ones they don't know.

 

[Thief]

I am my prophet, but you're the one feeding me lines.

I am posting questions that lead....
not that I am asking you to follow me

so....Moses had some kind of psychotic episode....
strong enough to manifest as works of God....as Moses led the Jews to the desert....

or the bulk of Genesis...is nothing but a nice story?

 

[Willamena]

People are not ignorant of gods, they only know what gods they know. And those are what will determine their atheism, not the ones they don't know.

Edit: Unless you hold an unrealistic epistemological view that people are psychic.

 

[Thief]

People are not ignorant of gods, they only know what gods they know. And those are what will determine their atheism, not the ones they don't know.

they still make the choice....to follow or say..nay

 

[Willamena]

I am posting questions that lead....
not that I am asking you to follow me

so....Moses had some kind of psychotic episode....
strong enough to manifest as works of God....as Moses led the Jews to the desert....

or the bulk of Genesis...is nothing but a nice story?

I'll take your word for it about this "Moses" fellow.

 

[Willamena]

they still make the choice....to follow or say..any

It's a "take" to say that belief is a choice. I can kinda see it both ways.

 

[Thief]

I'll take your word for it about this "Moses" fellow.

hmmmm.....

I then say....all that is of Moses is true
and you will take my word for it

there is an Almighty

He refers to Himself as..... I AM!

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

People are not ignorant of gods, they only know what gods they know. And those are what will determine their atheism, not the ones they don't know.

"The ones they don't know"... IOW the ones they're ignorant of.

Are you even trying to make sense?

 

[Willamena]

hmmmm.....

I then say....all that is of Moses is true
and you will take my word for it

there is an Almighty

He refers to Himself as..... I AM!

I'll take your word for it.

 

[Thief]

I'll take your word for it.

Done!

you are no longer an atheist

 

[Willamena]

Done!

you are no longer an atheist

I was always the atheist who believes in god.

Just not your god.

 

[Willamena]

The disbeliever is not ignorant and could not be, and the ignorant person is not disbelieving and could not be. To lump them as one concept is contradictory.

People are not ignorant of gods, they only know what gods they know. And those are what will determine their atheism, not the ones they don't know.

@9-10ths_Penguin Mostly Penguin, My posts are consistent. "Ignorance" enters the picture when there are things people do not know.

Prove that there are gods a person doesn't know and I'll eat my hat.


People are not "ignorant of gods" (a spin on things), rather they know what gods they know, and those will determine what shape their atheism takes.


= The world is positive.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

@9-10ths_Penguin Mostly Penguin, My posts are consistent. "Ignorance" enters the picture when there are things people do not know.

Prove that there are gods a person doesn't know and I'll eat my hat.


People are not "ignorant of gods" (a spin on things), rather they know what gods they know, and those will determine what shape their atheism takes.

Again: are you even trying to make sense?

 

[Willamena]

Again: are you even trying to make sense?

Yes.

I am actually making sense.