Book of Mormon

[Watchmen]

I dont want to sound dumb..But can you get married again once your in heaven?

Love

Dallas

People can get married in this life and in the Spirit World (the place we go after we die but before final judgment). After final judgment there is no more marriage.

 

[Truth_Faith13]

I think I answered that in POST #252. But again, I suppose closest would be evangelical, not fundamentalist. Fairly eclectic in my views regarding various aspects of the Christian faith. I've criticized fellow evangelicals before, as well as fundamentalists, where I thought there were problems. So, I try to be fair....some call that an equal-opportunity offender. LoL.

RA

Oh sorry I havent looked at all the posts!

 

[Truth_Faith13]

And now suddenly, even the LDS don't know what the LDS believe. "Hello! Does anyone know what Mormonism teaches?!" :help:

I believe you are in error.

Entrance into the Celestial Kingdom (which has three tiers), is NOT full exaltation -- i.e., godhood. Exaltation is achieved only in the highest tier of the Celestial Kingdom. And to achieve that tier (exaltation) you MUST be married. I offer the following statement from the official LDS Church website, By Elder B. Renato Maldonado
Area Authority Seventy, South America North Area, titled "Messages from the Doctrine & Covenants: The Three Degrees of Glory":

We do not know much about who will inherit two of the three degrees within the celestial kingdom. However, much has been said about the highest level in the celestial kingdom, or exaltation, because that is where the Father wants all of His children to live (see Moses 1:39). The Doctrine and Covenants teaches that temple marriage is the key to obtaining exaltation...
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I think Elder Maldonado knows what he is talking about. Is he wrong? He is the Area Authority Seventy of your Church and this is published in the Church's official magazine, Ensign, April, 2005.

And, of course, "exaltation," is full godhood, as noted by LDS Apostle Bruce McConkie: "That exaltation which the saints of all ages have so devoutly sought is godhood itself" (Mormon Doctrine, p. 321).

R.A.

Sorry Watchmen, but I actually agree with RA here, this is how I was taught it!

 

[Watchmen]

That seems like a nasty thing to tell people.

I suppose it depends on how it was expressed. If Mormons are right then don't you think people should be given the honest and true consequences for their actions? As a lawyer, don't you advise your client - even if the advice might be unpleasant?

 

[DallasApple]

People can get married in this life and in the Spirit World (the place we go after we die but before final judgment). After final judgment there is no more marriage.

So then you could remarry your spouse that you had here if you wanted to.(if you arent "sealed" alrready)

Love

Dallas

 

[Truth_Faith13]

It was a bitter pill for a child to have to swallow.

wa:do

It is, although some take it to the extreme, I know of one person who when tagging pictures refers to his "other mother and other father"

 

[Watchmen]

Sorry Watchmen, but I actually agree with RA here, this is how I was taught it!

Well, so be it. I'll concede for the moment that only the highest level of the Celestial Kingdom is exaltation - However, the way you and RA are framing things, it makes the other levels of the Celestial Kingdom sound not too great. People, being in the Celestial Kingdom is HEAVEN - it's being with GOD. Doesn't sound too shabby, IMO.

 

[Watchmen]

Sorry Watchmen, but I actually agree with RA here, this is how I was taught it!

You were also taught that family members wouldn't see each other, which was incorrect. It's not that we won't see each other it's that we won't have the same legal relationship we enjoy now.

 

[Watchmen]

So then you could remarry your spouse that you had here if you wanted to.(if you arent "sealed" alrready)

Love

Dallas

Exactly!

 

[Truth_Faith13]

Well, so be it. I'll concede for the moment that only the highest level of the Celestial Kingdom is exaltation - However, the way you and RA are framing things, it makes the other levels of the Celestial Kingdom sound not too great. People, being in the Celestial Kingdom is HEAVEN - it's being with GOD. Doesn't sound too shabby, IMO.

How have I made it sound not great....I said you get to be with your family in the celestial kingdom. Its the other two kingdoms you don't get to be with your family. If you are in the celestial kingdom and your family aren't, you can see them but they cant see you.

 

[Truth_Faith13]

You were also taught that family members wouldn't see each other, which was incorrect. It's not that we won't see each other it's that we won't have the same legal relationship we enjoy now.

There is no legal relationship between a mother and daughter or son or father etc.....You are confusing family and marriage!

 

[Watchmen]

How have I made it sound not great....I said you get to be with your family in the celestial kingdom. Its the other two kingdoms you don't get to be with your family. If you are in the celestial kingdom and your family aren't, you can see them but they cant see you.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying now. Do you know that there are also different levels within the Celestial Kingdom itself?

1. If you are sealed you may enter the highest level of the Celestial Kingdom as a family.

2. If you are not sealed you may enter the other levels of the Celestial Kingdom, but you will no longer be a legal family

3. Those in higher degrees may visit those in lower degrees, but not vice versa.

 

[doppelganger]

I suppose it depends on how it was expressed. If Mormons are right then don't you think people should be given the honest and true consequences for their actions? As a lawyer, don't you advise your client - even if the advice might be unpleasant?

Let me amend my statement. That's a nasty thing to believe.

 

[Watchmen]

There is no legal relationship between a mother and daughter or son or father etc.....You are confusing family and marriage!

Dream Angel, marriage is the new and everlasting covenant that legally binds the family together forever. We were all God's children before coming to earth but we did not have the family relationships. If we are not sealed, then we revert back to being equals as God's children, without the family titles, rights, and responsibilities.

 

[Watchmen]

Let me amend my statement. That's a nasty thing to believe.

It's a nasty thing to believe that the family unit doesn't have to end at death - that it can continue forever? OK, Dopp.

 

[lunamoth]

And here I was thinking that heaven is being united with everyone I love.

Silly moth.

 

[doppelganger]

Either we're right or we're wrong. If we're right then it's not subjective belief, it's God's law and that's justification enough.

Really?! That would excuse any act carrried out with the subjective belief that it was in furtherance of "God's will." Consider the ramifications.

 

[Truth_Faith13]

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying now. Do you know that there are also different levels within the Celestial Kingdom itself?

1. If you are sealed you may enter the highest level of the Celestial Kingdom as a family.

2. If you are not sealed you may enter the other levels of the Celestial Kingdom, but you will no longer be a legal family

3. Those in higher degrees may visit those in lower degrees, but not vice versa.

See there we have our problem. I wasnt talking about the degrees of the celestial kingdom. I know there are different degrees of the celestial kingdom. I was talking about the two lower levels of heaven.

Ok here is what I was taught....There are three levels of heaven, Celestial (with three levels itself), Terrestial and Telestial (I cant spell them!). In order to get into the Celestial Kingdom you have to be baptised LDS and I think endowed as well...but I could be wrong on that aspect.

You only get to be with your family IF you go to the Celestial Kingdom. If your family (ie non-members) are in either Terrestial or Telestial, you wont get to see them.

The what you said, but the ones in lower degrees cant actually see the ones in the higher degrees visiting them.

 

[Watchmen]

And here I was thinking that heaven is being united with everyone I love.

Silly moth.

There's a difference between being with the people you love and having the legal relationship continue, enabling eternal progression.

Even if people aren't sealed, they can end up in the Celestial Kingdom together and be best buddies forever in the presence of God.

 

[Truth_Faith13]

Dream Angel, marriage is the new and everlasting covenant that legally binds the family together forever. We were all God's children before coming to earth but we did not have the family relationships. If we are not sealed, then we revert back to being equals as God's children, without the family titles, rights, and responsibilities.

This is just getting more and more complicated and me liking it less and less............