Truth_Faith13
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But you dont get to be with your families in the second and third kingdoms. Only in the celestial kingdom do you get to be with your family (if they are worthy) or see them (if they are not).
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But you dont get to be with your families in the second and third kingdoms. Only in the celestial kingdom do you get to be with your family (if they are worthy) or see them (if they are not).
Truth_Faith13
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doppelgänger;1357163 said:
because Gods plan is to have a marriage between a man and a woman and they can procreate and create lots of children so that his other spirit children can come to the earth.
The reason they dont oppose non-mormon marriages is because there is always the hope that they will convert and get sealed in the temple.
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
This is main problem with superstition. Whatever pearls of great price are to be located with the help of the great myths and stories and teachings of spiritual visionaries is quickly papered over by the idea that one "believes" in a set of metaphysical postulates rather than really looking inside themselves to find what love really is, for example. And consequently, they don't notice when they cause harm to others out of egotistical fear and attachment when they project their imaged worlds as though they themselves were "God" to everyone else. Superstition is, at its core, blasphemous and idolatrous.
idea
Question Everything
doppelgänger;1357163 said:
Just speculation but - "That which is wrong under one circumstance, may be, and often is, right under another." - Joseph smith.
I guess I won't comment any more on this sub except to say Abraham was asked to sacrifice his son.... we are all called to sacrifice here, that we may appreciate things more deeply later on.
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
Not always. The universe contains some people who fall in love and have beautiful marriages where there are no or can be no children. Fact.
painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
Gays are sinning.... can't have all that sin running around.
(but then not all Mormons are against Gay rights and some fought against Prop 8.)
wa:do
(but then not all Mormons are against Gay rights and some fought against Prop 8.)
wa:do
Truth_Faith13
Well-Known Member
You know I was talking to a Christian the other day and she said when the spouse dies you are parted....(my nan has been on her own for 16years, she is parted from her husband through death)....until the afterlife.....
I never looked at it that way before, so that sentence isnt as doom and gloom as you think!
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
Would you be willing to sacrifice that very belief if being loving and selfless required it of you?
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
What makes one thing "sinning" and another "not sinning"?
Truth_Faith13
Well-Known Member
doppelgänger;1357174 said:
Yes I know, that is true...I was telling you the mormon view of "Gods plan"
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
How screwed up is that? That's a downright filthy and malicious way to control peoples' thoughts.
painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
Thats right... because the only 'true' family is a Temple approved family.
wa:do
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
This is why I've thought thus:
If orthodox Christianity is a mystery cult, LDS Christianity is a fertility cult.
Truth_Faith13
Well-Known Member
doppelgänger;1357184 said:
I know, I was rather shocked when at a friends FHE, the missionaries explained this to me. Its one of the reasons I left. They talk about forever families and how important they are, but actually if you dont follow all the rules, go to the temple, you dont get to be with your family. The missionaries reply was "hey if you get to the celestial kingdom you can do and go where you like...ie you can visit family members in lower kingdoms but they cant see you or hear you!" If thats the case, I dont want to go there........
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
In other words, the orthodox Eucharist is replaced with emphasis on the heterosexual child-producing "family."
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
Personally, I think it tends to be a particularly creepy one. I'll take the pagan fertility cults any day as they have a much healthier understanding of sex and love.
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
doppelgänger;1357193 said:Personally, I think it tends to be a particularly creepy one. I'll take the pagan fertility cults any day as they have a much healthier understanding of sex and love.
HAHA. There's an old joke:
(Bob worships Bacchus)
An overly curious and excited Bill says to wife, "Honey, I'm going to church with Bob tonight! See you in a couple of days..."
(But Bill ends up castrating himself in an ecstatic frenzy at the 'orgy'....)
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
Depending on the two days . . . maybe it was worth it.
Nahhhh . . .I should probably except those fertility cults that involve any sort of permanent damage.
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
doppelgänger;1357200 said:Depending on the two days . . . maybe it was worth it.
Yeah, the wife says "Got more that you bargained for, didn't ya, sucker!"
Note: The key to the success of a fertility cult is not to get wrapped up in it too much. The fertility god should be just one little god among many. Just make the sacrifice and go on.
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
That's good advice. In a balanced pantheon it should be equal to the war god, IMO.