Brexit is Costing Britain 500 Million Pounds per Week and Growing

[Altfish]

Alas no. I saw this and burst out laughing, but mainly because it fits the plonker image of Grayling so perfectly.

Channel $ has now revealed that one of the Directors of this 'firm' ran a shipping company in Somalia (Yes, pirate country) that went bust owing millions.

Due diligence, my ar*e

 

[Altfish]

I don't remember a bus with £600bn of assets to leave the UK before the Brexit vote?

£800bn of assets moving from UK to EU ahead of Brexit

Perhaps I missed that.

 

[exchemist]

I don't remember a bus with £600bn of assets to leave the UK before the Brexit vote?

£800bn of assets moving from UK to EU ahead of Brexit

Perhaps I missed that.

Also he comment from a haulier, taking part in today's dry run for Operation Block, or Stuck, or whatever it's called, who commented that it felt like taking part in a dry-run for his own execution.

 

[Altfish]

So the Government tried and failed to bribe Nissan with £80m to build new models in Sunderland. It failed...
Government promised to protect Nissan from Brexit fallout in 2016

The cost of Brexit raises by the hour

 

[Altfish]

Even one of NAN's heroes knew EU membership was essential for Nissan...

North-east England will pay the price for decades of dishonesty about Nissan | David Conn

PROJECT REALITY

 

[Notanumber]

So the Government tried and failed to bribe Nissan with £80m to build new models in Sunderland. It failed...
Government promised to protect Nissan from Brexit fallout in 2016

The cost of Brexit raises by the hour

Even one of NAN's heroes knew EU membership was essential for Nissan...

North-east England will pay the price for decades of dishonesty about Nissan | David Conn

PROJECT REALITY

I bet that (fake) news made your day. Sorry to burst your bubble!

They are not building the new SUV in the EU.

 

[Notanumber]

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Some American fat cat billionaires have recently proposed to the British Government a trade deal whereby they will help it recover from Brexit provided that -- among other things -- you British privatize the NHS. Or so I hear. By the way, the billionaires seem awfully confident that they can get the US Government to do whatever they want in terms of trade deals.

I wonder what the execution tool of the angry, tired, hungry, sick, and dying masses this time around? Will their anger reflect the timeless classic choices of torches, pitchforks, and rope, perhaps some wood, a stake, fire and rope, or the guillotine? Or will their rage bring forth something that reflects the modern times? If they tell us to eat cake, will we tell them to eat amperage?
If they keep it up, we might find out before we're dead.

 

[Altfish]

I bet that (fake) news made your day. Sorry to burst your bubble!

They are not building the new SUV in the EU.

They are not building it in the EU because Nissan have no other plants in the EU.
Why did May go with a bribe after the referendum?
Why are all our car manufacturers up in arms about Brexit?

Yes, the diesel market is an issue BUT the cars are still being made, just not in the UK.

And if Julia Hartley-Brewer is the best you can do !!!!

 

[Notanumber]

They are not building it in the EU because Nissan have no other plants in the EU.
Why did May go with a bribe after the referendum?
Why are all our car manufacturers up in arms about Brexit?

Yes, the diesel market is an issue BUT the cars are still being made, just not in the UK.

And if Julia Hartley-Brewer is the best you can do !!!!

Julia Hartley-Brewer is plenty good enough to combat the anti-Brexit spin that this country is obsessed with.

Nissan are not making diesel vehicles in this part of the world because nobody wants to buy them.

Nissan have admitted that themselves.

 

[LuisDantas]

Julia Hartley-Brewer is plenty good enough to combat the anti-Brexit spin that this country is obsessed with.

Uh, no, she does not have a praying chance.

To be fair, that is not her fault. A commentator can't make miracles. Not even when she is biased as heck and impressively selective.

Nissan are not making diesel vehicles in this part of the world because nobody wants to buy them.

Nissan have admitted that themselves.

Selective reading can be a powerful tool. But it can't change facts.

 

[LuisDantas]

I wonder what the execution tool of the angry, tired, hungry, sick, and dying masses this time around? Will their anger reflect the timeless classic choices of torches, pitchforks, and rope, perhaps some wood, a stake, fire and rope, or the guillotine? Or will their rage bring forth something that reflects the modern times? If they tell us to eat cake, will we tell them to eat amperage?
If they keep it up, we might find out before we're dead.

We have more recent examples from the 20th century. Pitchforks were already obsolete at the time.

 

[Altfish]

Julia Hartley-Brewer is plenty good enough to combat the anti-Brexit spin that this country is obsessed with.

Nissan are not making diesel vehicles in this part of the world because nobody wants to buy them.

Nissan have admitted that themselves.

Keep taking the ostrich stance; burying your head in the sand won't hide all the negatives of Brexit that were hailed as Project Fear by Brexiteers that are now proving to be PROJECT REALITY.

I see you still haven't completed my list of 5 benefits of Brexit.

 

[Notanumber]

Companies are very good at coping with change and western governments are promoting the change from diesel to electric.

Current production in Sunderland includes the Nissan LEAF, Europe’s best-selling electric car, which reached a record 46,989 unit last year, up 177 percent from the previous year, according to the company.

 

[exchemist]

I bet that (fake) news made your day. Sorry to burst your bubble!



They are not building the new SUV in the EU.

It is not fake news and no "bubble" is being burst. This is not about losing car manufacturing to the EU. It is about losing car manufacturing, full stop.

No-deal Brexit will do that, because just-in-time delivery is crucial to the economics of modern car manufacture. This is due to the very large number of parts and sub-assemblies, made in hundreds of different locations by different suppliers, that have to be brought together for assembly. Carrying buffer stocks to guard against uncertainty in supply lead time rapidly escalates into a huge amount of working capital being tied up in stock. Just-in-time (pioneered by the Japanese, "kanban") avoids all that and is now universally practised.

If UK plants need buffer stock while others, whether in Japan or the EU do not, the UK auto business will require uncompetitive levels of working capital and will go into decline.

 

[exchemist]

Companies are very good at coping with change and western governments are promoting the change from diesel to electric.

Current production in Sunderland includes the Nissan LEAF, Europe’s best-selling electric car, which reached a record 46,989 unit last year, up 177 percent from the previous year, according to the company.

And if we have a no-deal Brexit, you can confidently expect that this will plateau and then decline. Unless the Sunderland workforce take a big pay cut, or the Pound crashes.

 

[Altfish]

Companies are very good at coping with change and western governments are promoting the change from diesel to electric.

Current production in Sunderland includes the Nissan LEAF, Europe’s best-selling electric car, which reached a record 46,989 unit last year, up 177 percent from the previous year, according to the company.

But this is like BAe, of course they won't close the plant and will complete all current orders.
BUT new orders will not be placed with these plants and will go elsewhere. So, yes, the plant might last 10-years but it will slowly be run down.

 

[Notanumber]

Dr van Zyl said the decision to invest in the UK was taken in 2017 – after the UK voted to leave the European Union. “The highly qualified workforce at TMUK has a fine record of delivering superior quality products.

“Our continued investments, combined with the dedication of our members, will ensure that we can deliver ever better cars to our customers.”

New Toyota Corolla starts rolling off the line in Britain

 

[exchemist]

Dr van Zyl said the decision to invest in the UK was taken in 2017 – after the UK voted to leave the European Union. “The highly qualified workforce at TMUK has a fine record of delivering superior quality products.

“Our continued investments, combined with the dedication of our members, will ensure that we can deliver ever better cars to our customers.”

New Toyota Corolla starts rolling off the line in Britain

...but before a no-deal Brexit became a serious likelihood. Now that the investment is made, they have to sound upbeat and hope for a deal, of course.

The thing is, the goalposts keep being moved by the Impossiblists in the ERG. At the time of the referendum, many Brexiters painted a picture of the UK remaining in a customs union and closely aligned with the EU. See for example the views of Daniel Hannan, a prominent pro-Brexit MEP, who envisaged a Norway type of arrangement. Subsequently, however, the Impossiblists (The Moggatollah, Dumcnut-S**t, Peter Bonehead etc) have got the ratchet going, to rewrite history, such that they now maintain people voted to get out of every single relationship with the EU that exists and are quite happy to suffer economically for the privilege. Whereas at the time of the referendum, the promise was quite different: namely that the UK would become richer by leaving: £350m/week extra for the NHS and so forth.

In 2017, a free trade arrangement that kept frictionless borders seemed so obviously the way forward that Toyota would have made the investment expecting that outcome. May even gave private assurances to these companies, along these lines. But now it can be seen these assurances were empty and that May is a prisoner of the Impossibilists, who actively seek a crash-out if they do not get exactly what they want.

 

[Notanumber]

...but before a no-deal Brexit became a serious likelihood. Now that the investment is made, they have to sound upbeat and hope for a deal, of course.

The thing is, the goalposts keep being moved by the Impossiblists in the ERG. At the time of the referendum, many Brexiters painted a picture of the UK remaining in a customs union and closely aligned with the EU. See for example the views of Daniel Hannan, a prominent pro-Brexit MEP, who envisaged a Norway type of arrangement. Subsequently, however, the Impossiblists (The Moggatollah, Dumcnut-S**t, Peter Bonehead etc) have got the ratchet going, to rewrite history, such that they now maintain people voted to get out of every single relationship with the EU that exists and are quite happy to suffer economically for the privilege. Whereas at the time of the referendum, the promise was quite different: namely that the UK would become richer by leaving: £350m/week extra for the NHS and so forth.

In 2017, a free trade arrangement that kept frictionless borders seemed so obviously the way forward that Toyota would have made the investment expecting that outcome. May even gave private assurances to these companies, along these lines. But now it can be seen these assurances were empty and that May is a prisoner of the Impossibilists, who actively seek a crash-out if they do not get exactly what they want.

How many of these automotive companies have stated aims to leave the UK because of Brexit?

Built in Britain: UK automotive from A to Z