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British Values

Notanumber

Notanumber

A Free Man
Altfish said:
I would say Stephen Yaxley-Lennon uses the same tactics as Antifa, yes. I'm glad you understand now why I object to him and his cohorts.
I am NOT a supporter of Antifa tactics either.
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If you had anywhere near as many supporters as Tommy Robinson has, would you be able to control the actions of all of them?
 
Notanumber

Notanumber

A Free Man
Altfish said:
You are not trying hard enough...



Once again you post from the Bubble
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I watched the first five minutes of the first video out of courtesy to you but I could not see the point of it.

Instead of making a video critique about Peterson, why does he not debate Peterson face to face on a stage where everyone is invited to watch and learn?
 
Altfish

Altfish

Veteran Member
Notanumber said:
I watched the first five minutes of the first video out of courtesy to you but I could not see the point of it.

Instead of making a video critique about Peterson, why does he not debate Peterson face to face on a stage where everyone is invited to watch and learn?
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Peterson is a good debater, he invents facts and figures that are hard to refute. he redefines words and an inexperienced debater will get beaten in the linguistic olympics. The fact that he is a good debater does NOT make him correct.
 
Notanumber

Notanumber

A Free Man
Altfish said:
Peterson is a good debater, he invents facts and figures that are hard to refute. he redefines words and an inexperienced debater will get beaten in the linguistic olympics. The fact that he is a good debater does NOT make him correct.
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Is that why the Left prefer to de-platform those that they disagree with?

 
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Altfish

Altfish

Veteran Member
Notanumber said:
Have you any examples of a leftwing speaker being de-platformed at a public event?
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Well, since de-platforming (Must admit I thought it was no platforming) is defined as the left wing practice of not allowing far right groups from speaking, usually at a university. The right wingers do it by not inviting in the first place. So, say, Corbyn wouldn't get to speak at a EDL rally.

By the way, I don't agree with the practice but it is blown up out of all proportions by the Right wing press. It hasn't happened a lot.
 
Notanumber

Notanumber

A Free Man
Altfish said:
Well, since de-platforming (Must admit I thought it was no platforming) is defined as the left wing practice of not allowing far right groups from speaking, usually at a university. The right wingers do it by not inviting in the first place. So, say, Corbyn wouldn't get to speak at a EDL rally.

By the way, I don't agree with the practice but it is blown up out of all proportions by the Right wing press. It hasn't happened a lot.
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Are you saying that Robert Spencer and Milo have been invited to speak at an ANTIFA rally?

Are you saying that Corbyn wouldn't get to speak at a university?

When it does happen, it causes mayhem. Police forces want Milo to pay the bill for damage done by his protesters.
 
Altfish

Altfish

Veteran Member
Notanumber said:
Are you saying that Robert Spencer and Milo have been invited to speak at an ANTIFA rally?

Are you saying that Corbyn wouldn't get to speak at a university?

When it does happen, it causes mayhem. Police forces want Milo to pay the bill for damage done by his protesters.
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I thought Spencer was banned from the UK?
Antifa don't have allies, they gatecrash other rallies.
No, Corbyn would speak at some universities
Since police are responsible for law and order when they know their is a chance of trouble they charge for their services. The same happens at football matches.
The police cannot get anyone to pay for damage, that is only the owner of damaged property that can do that.
 
Notanumber

Notanumber

A Free Man
Altfish said:
I thought Spencer was banned from the UK?
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I must be turning into one of those Globalists but I will snap out of it.

Altfish said:
Antifa don't have allies, they gatecrash other rallies.
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ANTIFA and the Left. What is the difference?

Altfish said:
No, Corbyn would speak at some universities
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Yes, Corbyn would be allowed to speak freely at any university and the Right would not try to silence him.

Altfish said:
Since police are responsible for law and order when they know their is a chance of trouble they charge for their services.
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It is a form of discrimination that only Corbyn or anyone else on the Left can speak freely without receiving a bill from the police. Free speech should be protected for both sides of the political spectrum.

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The same happens at football matches.
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I don’t follow football but I suspect it is not just rightwing clubs that get the bill.

Altfish said:
The police cannot get anyone to pay for damage, that is only the owner of damaged property that can do that.
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The police should be arresting those Lefties that are doing the damage and the courts should make their parents pay for it.
 
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