Altfish
Veteran Member
TRUTH - it's that word again.
Those two wouldn't know the truth if it hit them between the eyes.
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British Values
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Those two wouldn't know the truth if it hit them between the eyes.
Notanumber
A Free Man
I am grateful that I do not wear blinkers.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Oh the irony
Notanumber
A Free Man
No wonder Tommy wanted to join UKIP, the party of principles.
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Leader's Update 4th January 2019
Dear Fellow UKIP Members,
New Year Message for 2019
I hope that you all enjoyed a good Christmas and New Year break.
The coming year looks as though it will be a momentous one for Britain and for UKIP.
1. Brexit?
The debacle continues. Mrs May’s ‘Not Really Leaving Withdrawal Agreement’ has still not been voted on by Parliament and we still don’t know quite when it will be.
Meanwhile, speculation is rife that the whole Brexit process may be delayed for another year. I am sorry to say that this fits in with my prediction that the political establishment’s intention is to delay and impede the process with the intention of eventually overturning the decision of the Referendum. I will be only too happy to be proved wrong in that, but events continue to unfold as I said they would.
Of course, perhaps this is a clever plan by Mrs May to reach a point where a ‘no deal Brexit’ becomes inevitable. If so, what a pity we have wasted two and a half years getting to that point when we could have done it the week after the Referendum.
UKIP will continue the fight for a complete and unencumbered exit from the EU – however long that takes.
2. The way forward for UKIP
2018 was spent in saving UKIP, that job was done and the job for 2019 is to restore UKIP as an electoral threat.
In Sept 2018 we took a good step forward with the publication of our Interim Manifesto that laid out a range of policies.
These policies were founded on the principle that they are in the national interest and in the interests of British citizens. That is a novel idea given that for the last 46 years our national life has been conducted in terms of what is in the interests of the European Union.
The challenge before us for the next twelve months will be to increase our vote in whatever elections arise. We have the local elections in May 2019 and I urge all our members to do what they can to help promote UKIP as best they can – by becoming a candidate, becoming active in your local branch, delivering leaflets, donating funds, and writing to your local newspapers.
3. UKIP what we stand for
A sure sign that UKIP is making progress is that we are being attacked by our opponents and the so-called ‘mainstream media’. In particular, we are smeared as being ‘far right’. This is of course nonsense but those who throw the mud hope some of it will stick.
I have just drafted a very short pamphlet entitled UKIP What We Stand For – A Statement of Principles. This will be available shortly as a PDF and in paper form.
It is designed to spell out exactly what we stand for: restoring Britain as an independent, democratic, sovereign nation, governed under its own Constitution, laws and customs. I have laid this out under the main headings of:
Patriotism
National Democracy
Political Democracy
Economic Democracy
Liberalism and Traditionalism
The purpose of this pamphlet is to inform our own members, and also as an aid to recruiting new members by countering the lies told about us and putting in simple terms our values and principles.
These will be available from HQ within the next couple of weeks.
4. MEP Resignations
You will have seen that a number of our MEPs have resigned from the Party. They have cited their reasons as being that I am somehow taking the Party in a direction they do not approve of. This is untrue since my values have stayed the same in the 26 years I have been actively involved in politics (firstly in the Anti-Federalist League and then when it was renamed as the UK Independence Party).
If those MEPs disagreed with my policies or statements the honourable thing to have done would have been to remain in the Party and voice their opposition in a constructive manner. They could have stood as a candidate in the next leadership election or backed someone more to their liking.
Instead, they took the dishonourable option which was to resign from UKIP but keep their seats. All the MEPs signed a declaration in 2013 that if they resigned from UKIP, for whatever reason, they would also resign their seat and make way for the next UKIP candidate on the party list.
They have chosen to keep their seats, their €95k salaries, their €300 per day tax -free daily allowance, and their handsome pensions. Their seats belong to UKIP, not to them.
I do not object to anyone disagreeing with me or my stance on particular issues, or challenging my leadership, that is politics. I have nothing but contempt for the dishonourable actions of these MEPs.
I want UKIP to be a Party for all the people. Some of those at the top of the Party in the past were just ‘Tories in Exile’, and they are out of tune with my efforts to widen the appeal of the Party to all sections of society who believe in a free and independent Britain.
My best wishes to you all for 2019!
Yours sincerely,
Gerard Batten MEP
UKIP Leader
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Leader's Update 4th January 2019
Dear Fellow UKIP Members,
New Year Message for 2019
I hope that you all enjoyed a good Christmas and New Year break.
The coming year looks as though it will be a momentous one for Britain and for UKIP.
1. Brexit?
The debacle continues. Mrs May’s ‘Not Really Leaving Withdrawal Agreement’ has still not been voted on by Parliament and we still don’t know quite when it will be.
Meanwhile, speculation is rife that the whole Brexit process may be delayed for another year. I am sorry to say that this fits in with my prediction that the political establishment’s intention is to delay and impede the process with the intention of eventually overturning the decision of the Referendum. I will be only too happy to be proved wrong in that, but events continue to unfold as I said they would.
Of course, perhaps this is a clever plan by Mrs May to reach a point where a ‘no deal Brexit’ becomes inevitable. If so, what a pity we have wasted two and a half years getting to that point when we could have done it the week after the Referendum.
UKIP will continue the fight for a complete and unencumbered exit from the EU – however long that takes.
2. The way forward for UKIP
2018 was spent in saving UKIP, that job was done and the job for 2019 is to restore UKIP as an electoral threat.
In Sept 2018 we took a good step forward with the publication of our Interim Manifesto that laid out a range of policies.
These policies were founded on the principle that they are in the national interest and in the interests of British citizens. That is a novel idea given that for the last 46 years our national life has been conducted in terms of what is in the interests of the European Union.
The challenge before us for the next twelve months will be to increase our vote in whatever elections arise. We have the local elections in May 2019 and I urge all our members to do what they can to help promote UKIP as best they can – by becoming a candidate, becoming active in your local branch, delivering leaflets, donating funds, and writing to your local newspapers.
3. UKIP what we stand for
A sure sign that UKIP is making progress is that we are being attacked by our opponents and the so-called ‘mainstream media’. In particular, we are smeared as being ‘far right’. This is of course nonsense but those who throw the mud hope some of it will stick.
I have just drafted a very short pamphlet entitled UKIP What We Stand For – A Statement of Principles. This will be available shortly as a PDF and in paper form.
It is designed to spell out exactly what we stand for: restoring Britain as an independent, democratic, sovereign nation, governed under its own Constitution, laws and customs. I have laid this out under the main headings of:
Patriotism
National Democracy
Political Democracy
Economic Democracy
Liberalism and Traditionalism
The purpose of this pamphlet is to inform our own members, and also as an aid to recruiting new members by countering the lies told about us and putting in simple terms our values and principles.
These will be available from HQ within the next couple of weeks.
4. MEP Resignations
You will have seen that a number of our MEPs have resigned from the Party. They have cited their reasons as being that I am somehow taking the Party in a direction they do not approve of. This is untrue since my values have stayed the same in the 26 years I have been actively involved in politics (firstly in the Anti-Federalist League and then when it was renamed as the UK Independence Party).
If those MEPs disagreed with my policies or statements the honourable thing to have done would have been to remain in the Party and voice their opposition in a constructive manner. They could have stood as a candidate in the next leadership election or backed someone more to their liking.
Instead, they took the dishonourable option which was to resign from UKIP but keep their seats. All the MEPs signed a declaration in 2013 that if they resigned from UKIP, for whatever reason, they would also resign their seat and make way for the next UKIP candidate on the party list.
They have chosen to keep their seats, their €95k salaries, their €300 per day tax -free daily allowance, and their handsome pensions. Their seats belong to UKIP, not to them.
I do not object to anyone disagreeing with me or my stance on particular issues, or challenging my leadership, that is politics. I have nothing but contempt for the dishonourable actions of these MEPs.
I want UKIP to be a Party for all the people. Some of those at the top of the Party in the past were just ‘Tories in Exile’, and they are out of tune with my efforts to widen the appeal of the Party to all sections of society who believe in a free and independent Britain.
My best wishes to you all for 2019!
Yours sincerely,
Gerard Batten MEP
UKIP Leader
Altfish
Veteran Member
They forgot to mention the free unicorns.
Would you care to put more meat on the bones of these wishy-washy statements?
Would you care to put more meat on the bones of these wishy-washy statements?
Notanumber
A Free Man
You must have missed this -
I have just drafted a very short pamphlet entitled UKIP What We Stand For – A Statement of Principles. This will be available shortly as a PDF and in paper form.
It is designed to spell out exactly what we stand for: restoring Britain as an independent, democratic, sovereign nation, governed under its own Constitution, laws and customs. I have laid this out under the main headings of:
Altfish
Veteran Member
Loosely translated..."I don't know"
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
You're really not that self-aware, are you?
Notanumber
A Free Man
Anyone that has British values should sign this - https://www.change.org/p/grant-18-year-old-saudi-woman-rahaf-asylum-in-the-uk
Ahh, cool... Does that mean you have decided what british values are?
Milton Platt
Well-Known Member
sounds like she is just re-labeling courses that have been taught for decades....history, geography, civics (government)
Translation:
I consider 3 points crucial. One:immigration, the Trojan horse that has penetrated the West and turned Europe into what I call Eurabia. Two. I don't believe in the lie of multiculturalism, and even less in the falsehood called integration. Muslim migrants materialize so well the warning that Algerian leader Boumedienne addressed us at the UN,1974 """We will soon arrive in the northern hemisphere. Not as friend, no. To conquer you. By peopling your territories with our children. Our women's womb will give us victory"""
Three: I don't believe in moderate Islam, above all. Awake, West, awake. they declared us war and we must fight back.
Three: I don't believe in moderate Islam, above all. Awake, West, awake. they declared us war and we must fight back.
Ah...that's why she often comes to the boot. To her kind.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Well, when the Daily Mail has banned you - that is really an anti-Muslim paper - you are out on a fringe.Ah...that's why she often comes to the boot. To her kind.
Notanumber
A Free Man
Look what is happening to our British values.
We all know Tommy is not far right but he is definitely right about the MP that is the coward of the country.
What a hero Tommy is compared to the politician that scuttled off without attempting to justify his deformation of Tommy and Bercow is no better.
We all know Tommy is not far right but he is definitely right about the MP that is the coward of the country.
What a hero Tommy is compared to the politician that scuttled off without attempting to justify his deformation of Tommy and Bercow is no better.
British values??? You have the gall to still use that argument?
So british values is ignoring court orders... Gotya
Notanumber
A Free Man
How many people wanted a selfie with the politician that defamed Tommy?
That should tell you something.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Why would anyone want a selfie??
If Eric Cantona and Mark E Smith came to my house the last thing I'd want is a selfie.
Notanumber
A Free Man
Same here but plenty do.
It is a sign of the times and Tommy is a man of the times, a national hero.