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Buffalo Killer was a self described Leftist and Green Nationalist

Orbit

I'm a planet
This OP reads like a right wing tantrum. More predictable, demonizing your Democratic neighbors, and having no facts to hang your hat on. When people point out that the OP is woefully misinformed about fascism, history, and the Nazi's the OP doubles down and sticks to their misinformation. Dear OP, "white replacement theory" is the stated, racist reason for the rampage. It was recently advocated by Tucker Carlson on Fox News. Common sense should tell you what has gone on here. The attacker admired prominent leftist Dylann Roof, is that your "proof"? (That was a joke).
 

KW

Well-Known Member
This OP reads like a right wing tantrum. More predictable, demonizing your Democratic neighbors, and having no facts to hang your hat on. When people point out that the OP is woefully misinformed about fascism, history, and the Nazi's the OP doubles down and sticks to their misinformation. Dear OP, "white replacement theory" is the stated, racist reason for the rampage. It was recently advocated by Tucker Carlson on Fox News. Common sense should tell you what has gone on here. The attacker admired prominent leftist Dylann Roof, is that your "proof"? (That was a joke).


It's the Democrats who are doing the demonizing and lying.

Exposing their lies is a tantrum?
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I suppose we are all just waiting around for someone to tells us who to hate so we can go out and shoot them with an AR-15.

Can't blame the shooter because they are just a puppet of some political ideology.
 
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Heyo

Veteran Member
From the Nazi Platform:

That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.

In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.

We demand the nationalization of all trusts.

We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press.


In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.
So, you know about what the Nazis said was their agenda. Do you also know what they did to enforce it?
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
It's the Democrats who are doing the demonizing and lying.

Exposing their lies is a tantrum?

The only things that you've exposed in your thread are your own biases against liberals and your far-right "news" source's bias against liberals. And doubling down on your rant against Democrats after being repeatedly debunked makes you look foolish and irrational. No one is going to take you seriously. Also, repeatedly mentioning the Nazis (Godwin's law) weakens your rant against Democrats too.
 

KW

Well-Known Member
The only things that you've exposed in your thread are your own biases against liberals and your far-right "news" source's bias against liberals. Doubling down on your rant against Democrats after being repeatedly debunked makes you look foolish and irrational. No one is going to take you seriously. Also, repeatedly mentioning the Nazis (Godwin's law) weakens your rant against Democrats too.


Which fact do you claim was debunked?

I wasn't the one who brought up fascism.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
What is truly shameful is your willingness to use and cite right-wing sources in your attempt to stereotype both "leftists" and "rightists". Racism is not a "leftist" thingy as "liberal" implies being open minded:
Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed and equality before the law.[1][2][3] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but they generally support individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), liberal democracy, secularism, rule of law, economic and political freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, private property and a market economy.[11]-- Liberalism - Wikipedia
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Facsism is just another form of state control, ie. leftism.

National Socialism in German was fascist.
More distortions. Facsism is just another form of state control, ie. leftism.

National Socialism in German was fascist.

Wrong:
Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-izəm) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism,[1] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and the economy[2] that rose to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[3][4] The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I, before spreading to other European countries.[3] Opposed to anarchism, democracy, liberalism, and Marxism,[5] fascism is placed on the far-right wing within the traditional left–right spectrum.[3][6]-- Fascism - Wikipedia
 

KW

Well-Known Member
What is truly shameful is your willingness to use and cite right-wing sources in your attempt to stereotype both "leftists" and "rightists". Racism is not a "leftist" thingy as "liberal" implies being open minded:
Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed and equality before the law.[1][2][3] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but they generally support individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), liberal democracy, secularism, rule of law, economic and political freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, private property and a market economy.[11]-- Liberalism - Wikipedia


You can find the information on many sources.

Leftist media hides the truth much of the time, however.

If you think the quotes from the killer are false, please provide evidence of your claim.

Otherwise, you should admit that the Democrats blaming Fox and conservatives for the actions of this self proclaimed leftist who hates Fox are despicable.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Of course.

Leftism is tyrannical.

So is "Rightism". The Nazis were far right. Businesses did quite well under them. They nationalized some but their general policy was that companies did best when they remained in private hands as much as possible. They were far from "socialists" even though that was part of their party name:

German Industry and the Third Reich

Once again, do you think that North Kore is a democracy? Is it a republic like the US is? It has to be, right? It is part of their official name:

The Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea.

Don't let names fool you. It is their acts that tell you what they are.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
My thought is that an 18 year old's thinking can be all over the map especially those with apparent mental health issues.

Geez, let's not give them legal access to assault weapons, please.
 

KW

Well-Known Member
Wrong:
Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-izəm) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism,[1] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and the economy[2] that rose to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[3][4] The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I, before spreading to other European countries.[3] Opposed to anarchism, democracy, liberalism, and Marxism,[5] fascism is placed on the far-right wing within the traditional left–right spectrum.[3][6]-- Fascism - Wikipedia


That's what leftists have said for decades about the National Socialist Workers Party. You need to stop believing leftists.

Read the Nazi Platform. It is leftist.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
You can find the information on many sources.

Leftist media hides the truth much of the time, however.

If you think the quotes from the killer are false, please provide evidence of your claim.

Otherwise, you should admit that the Democrats blaming Fox and conservatives for the actions of this self proclaimed leftist who hates Fox are despicable.
Evidence? See my post above.
 

KW

Well-Known Member
So is "Rightism". The Nazis were far right. Businesses did quite well under them. They nationalized some but their general policy was that companies did best when they remained in private hands as much as possible. They were far from "socialists" even though that was part of their party name:

German Industry and the Third Reich

Once again, do you think that North Kore is a democracy? Is it a republic like the US is? It has to be, right? It is part of their official name:

The Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea.

Don't let names fool you. It is their acts that tell you what they are.


Don't go by labels.

Read the Nazi Platform.

It's leftism.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You can find the information on many sources.

Leftist media hides the truth much of the time, however.

If you think the quotes from the killer are false, please provide evidence of your claim.

Otherwise, you should admit that the Democrats blaming Fox and conservatives for the actions of this self proclaimed leftist who hates Fox are despicable.
And you have yet to find a reliable source that supports you. In other words, you have nothing. but your own ranting. Even the very right wing New York Post does not support your claims. I dug through that cesspit and found nothing.
 
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