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Buffalo Killer was a self described Leftist and Green Nationalist

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
A privately owned company that does government's
bidding is more efficient than government taking on
the whole task. But be aware that ownership is a
bundle of rights. And the nominal owner's ownership
is diminished as government commandeers more &
more significant rights.

Nah.
N Korea has no elections.
Leadership is determined by birth succession.
You just supported my analogy. Perhaps you were late to the argument. The OP was arguing that the Nazis were socialists (they were not even close) because it is in their name He argued that they were socialists because it is in their platform. They did not follow that. by his argument North Korea is a democracy and a republic because those words are in their official name and in their constitution. @SomeRandom posted on how they kicked out (or worse) the few socialists that they had in The Night of the Long Knives. At the top of the previous page. In other words, if the Nazis are socialist because it is in their official title then by the same logic, or lack thereof, North Korea is a democracy.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I'm just exposing the lies the Democrats are telling to try to make this political.

Do you think that that is the message you are sending? I assure you that it is not. The message is about you, not the Democrats.

Who cares if he was conservative or liberal. He did an evil act that almost everyone on both sides agree is evil. Can we not at least come together and agree on this terrible event?

The OP. It's why he started the post. As far as I know, he hasn't commented on the crime at all. It's not his concern. Defamation of liberals is.

And no, "we" cannot agree that the act was evil or terrible. How many conservatives have you seen condemn that act or show any interest in gun violence in general?

It goes on and on on the liberal talk shows, blaming conservatives instead of the actual shooter.

No, liberals have denounced the act and expect the shooter to be held accountable for it. To my knowledge, no prominent Republicans or conservative talking heads haven't denounced the act. I imagine that if he were acquitted, we'd hear a standing ovation coast to coast coming from the right as we did following the Rittenhouse verdict. Biden will visit Buffalo to grieve with the locals and denounce the violence. Trump will be silent or say something racist.

The Republicans don't want the discussion to be about guns or senseless violence or replacement theory or white supremacy or America first. It will take the left to look at those issues and assess their relevance in facilitating the crime. And the blame will fall on the right because that's where it belongs.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
What an utterly bizarre and disingenuous post the above is, and for some reason you just can't seem to stop stereotyping.

I can speak from years of personal experience that the OP is dead wrong about Republicans not thinking race matters.

As an ex-conservative and registered Republican, I've endured hate from Republicans since Trump hoodwinked the GOP in 2015. I've been accused of being anti-American, anti-Christian, and demon-possessed. I was told that I was possessed by a demon and that's what caused me to vote for Biden, and apparently I'm going to burn in hell for all eternity because I voted for him. Not only have I been called demon-possessed, but I have been called evil incarnate, Satan's minion, a "child of the devil," and a "Demon Rat." I was also called a "f***ing b*tch" and a traitor to my country. To add insult to injury, I was ostracized by my Trump-loving extended family and excluded from a family reunion. I was later told that it upset my relatives that I voted for Biden, and it was best for all concerned if I didn't show up. Lastly, I've witnessed other ex-conservatives being verbally attacked by other conservatives, mostly Trumpsters.

In the 26 years I was a conservative and a registered Republican, I never witnessed or experienced any liberal viciously degrading other people to the same level as I witnessed and experienced from other conservatives. I grew up in a white conservative home and in a predominantly white conservative town, and I heard black people being called the N word practically all the time. In fact, there weren't any black people living in this town. Other than a few Native Americans, there weren't any POC living in this town, and Native Americans were often called racist slurs. As I've shared before, I have Native American ancestry, and because I have red hair and light skin, I was called a half-breed and told that my Indian blood was dirty. I was told that I couldn't be a Christian and embrace my Indian heritage at the same time. I was also told that the entire worth of Indians could be found at the bottom of a whiskey bottle.

As a young adult, I began to accept and embrace my native heritage, but it came with a price. I began to experience a lot of hostility from some of the white conservative Christians I knew. I wasn't surprised by their racism because I grew up around it, but it was painful and upsetting to experience it firsthand. So, I firmly disagree with your claim that the left is more intolerant than the right.
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
And no, "we" cannot agree that the act was evil or terrible. How many conservatives have you seen condemn that act or show any interest in gun violence in general?
Are you serious? Show me which conservatives support this mass shooting.



No, liberals have denounced the act and expect the shooter to be held accountable for it. To my knowledge, no prominent Republicans or conservative talking heads haven't denounced the act. I imagine that if he were acquitted, we'd hear a standing ovation coast to coast coming from the right as we did following the Rittenhouse verdict. Biden will visit Buffalo to grieve with the locals and denounce the violence. Trump will be silent or say something racist.

The Republicans don't want the discussion to be about guns or senseless violence or replacement theory or white supremacy or America first. It will take the left to look at those issues and assess their relevance in facilitating the crime. And the blame will fall on the right because that's where it belongs.
I think you have a sickness if you think conservatives support this mass shooting.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I can speak from years of personal experience that the OP is dead wrong about Republicans not thinking race matters.
I agree. Do you wish to share some of those? I can with mine. Show me yours and I'll show you mine.

Oops, maybe I should reword the above. :emojconfused:
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
I agree. Do you wish to share some of those? I can with mine. Show me yours and I'll show you mine.

Oops, maybe I should reword the above. :emojconfused:

Lol. In my post you quoted, I quoted one of my older posts about a few of my personal experiences with conservatives.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Lol. In my post you quoted, I quoted one of my older posts about a few of my personal experiences with conservatives.
OK, I'll check back to read those, so can you help me and say about which post #'s to go back to?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The OP was arguing that the Nazis were socialists...
They are as socialist as they are capitalist
(the former because of the level of control,
& the latter because of private ownership).
Less socialist than N Korea, but more so
than Norway. Does that help?
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
No. NAZI is an abbreviation for National Socialist.

I wouldn't be surprised if you learned that in a modern history class taught by a leftist professor.
So Hitler never lied in his life?
The Nazis all told the truth?
Have you never heard of propaganda?
Serious question.
Another serious question, have you never heard of Goebbels?
Really?

I can call myself a right winger all I want, but if my actions are antithetical to the position overall, I belie my true allegiance.
Like @Subduction Zone has mentioned over and over again, just because it’s in the title doesn’t mean it’s honest. Like they have said, North Korea calls itself a democracy. It’s not, fun fact.

When the Nazis first established power Hitler did indeed appeal to the then popular ideals of Socialism and even more or less co-opted another smaller actual socialist party into the fold. Then they literally purged the socialists. Have you never in your life had to learn about the Night of the Long Knives? Something that is literally referenced in popular culture to this very day?
Seriously? I learnt all this in early High school.
What biases did your modern history teachers have? Because I know many conservatives who don’t deny such a thing. Like wth?

Also I’m not American, you do realise that your political distinctions matter little to our education system overall. We don’t care. Pretty sure all my history teachers leaned right anyway, not that it matters, teachers are expected to act professionally.
I live in an overall conservative state, just fyi.
 
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