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Buffalo Killer was a self described Leftist and Green Nationalist

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Didn’t the Nazis drop Socialism from their name after they gained power? (And killed all the actual socialists or the SA during the “night of the long knives.”)
I seem to vaguely recall learning that in modern history class.
I would not know. My only argument has been if that was evidence that the Nazis were socialists then by the same logic North Korea is a democracy.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Tucker sees the border problem as the dems trying to replace the current voters to get more and more dem voters. I have never heard him say anything about replacing white voters specifically. I have never seen Tucker call for any kind of violence, only change through elections. His take is not one from a racists ideology but from an uncontrolled immigration policy. The only reason the dems like immigration is because it favors the in elections, that is his hypothesis, not that he is racist. If Tucker gets shot do you think the liberals saying how he is to blame for this shooting should be to blame? Tucker has good and bad takes but if someone is going to accuse him of causing this shooting they better have better evidence than just him saying the voters are being replaced with immigrants to increase dem voters. White replacement theory is something else based on racism and anti-Semitism.
And how is Tucker's version not racist?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Yes, you should watch out for the New York Post and be sure to fact check the content of its articles.

New York Post - Media Bias/Fact Check
Often when a poster will not support their post I will do their homework for him. I tried to find a more reliable source that supported the OP. I could not find any. I even checked the New York Post and as you saw they are both rather right wing and not very reliable. Not even the New York Post supported the OP.

The claims in the OP's source cannot be supported now because as you probably know Google took down the manifesto.

Why didn't he do the honorable thing and say that he could not confirm that source? Doubling down when all one has is hate is not a convincing strategy.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
I wasn't referring to the NYP

I thought you were referring to the New York Post since you quoted Twilight Hue's post that included one of its articles.

According to the NY Post, it sounds like he's using a Covid defense. That the virus created a condition called "lizard brain".

Buffalo shooting suspect's kin blame COVID-19 for slaughter

Sounds like an Infowars viewer. Gotta watch out for those red pills, propaganda is dangerous and will screw your mind up.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
Often when a poster will not support their post I will do their homework for him. I tried to find a more reliable source that supported the OP. I could not find any. I even checked the New York Post and as you saw they are both rather right wing and not very reliable. Not even the New York Post supported the OP.

The claims in the OP's source cannot be supported now because as you probably know Google took down the manifesto.

Why didn't he do the honorable thing and say that he could not confirm that source? Doubling down when all one has is hate is not a convincing strategy.

I think the main objective of the OP was to "own the libs" by viciously disparaging them by any means necessary. So he purposefully posts a far-right article that he knows will validate his personal contempt for liberals. I have seen it time and time again online with anti-liberal conservatives (and more often than not, it's Trump supporters). In fact, I encountered a similar situation in another thread yesterday. It involved a link to a very long paper that the member didn't even read, but he posted it anyway. And instead of doing the right thing and conceding when he was called out for not reading the paper himself, he doubled down on his anti-liberal rhetoric.
 
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SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
I would not know. My only argument has been if that was evidence that the Nazis were socialists then by the same logic North Korea is a democracy.
Well I agree with your argument, for what it’s worth.

I’m no historian so I could be wrong on this.
But I do remember learning about the “purge.”
Night of the Long Knives signified the downfall of the so called “SA”, the original paramilitary wing of the Nazis. It also shifted the Party as a whole towards a much more more militaristic one. Since the SS replaced the SA.

My teachers would refer to Hitler’s party as The Third Reich, explicitly during the era/s following this event. And only called them Nazis in the lead up to said event.
Hence my query.

And like I mentioned before, it was essentially the purge of the actual Socialists in the original party. And the death of the infamous “gay Nazi” Ernst Rohm. The purge is also sometimes called the Rohm purge/operation, since he was ostensibly the target for “disloyalty” (read a perceived threat to Hitler’s power.)
So in addition to not living up to the definition by their actions, the Nazi party quite literally killed socialists and indeed literally purged them from their ranks.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I would not know. My only argument has been if that was evidence that the Nazis were socialists then by the same logic North Korea is a democracy.
It's a false analogy.
NK has no elements of democracy.
But Nazi Germany had elements of a command economy.
It appears more socialistic than countries that fans call
"socialist", eg, Scandinavia. (I don't label them "socialist"
either.)

I understand that socialists are uncomfortable with their
kinship with Hitler. His regime wasn't pure socialism,
so they label it "capitalism". I say it's more complex.
Economy of Nazi Germany - Wikipedia
Excerpted....
Overall, according to historian Richard Overy, the Nazi war economy was a mixed economy that combined a free market with central planning; Overy describes it as being somewhere in between the command economy of the Soviet Union and the capitalist system of the United States.[11]

The Nazi government developed a partnership with leading German business interests, who supported the goals of the regime and its war effort in exchange for advantageous contracts, subsidies, and the suppression of the trade union movement.[12] Cartels and monopolies were encouraged at the expense of small businesses, even though the Nazis had received considerable electoral support from small business owners.[13]
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
It's a false analogy.
NK has no elements of democracy.
But Nazi Germany had elements of a command economy.
It appears more socialistic than countries that fans call
"socialist", eg, Scandinavia. (I don't label them "socialist"
either.)

I understand that socialists are uncomfortable with their
kinship with Hitler. His regime wasn't pure socialism,
so they label it "capitalism". I say it's more complex.
Economy of Nazi Germany - Wikipedia
Excerpted....
Overall, according to historian Richard Overy, the Nazi war economy was a mixed economy that combined a free market with central planning; Overy describes it as being somewhere in between the command economy of the Soviet Union and the capitalist system of the United States.[11]

The Nazi government developed a partnership with leading German business interests, who supported the goals of the regime and its war effort in exchange for advantageous contracts, subsidies, and the suppression of the trade union movement.[12] Cartels and monopolies were encouraged at the expense of small businesses, even though the Nazis had received considerable electoral support from small business owners.[13]

Well, that is one theory. Another is that there was no unified German government as Hitler viewed that as a thread. He gave different overlapping responsibilities and had them fight it out for his favor.
By the way, how is the bold socialistic?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Well, that is one theory. Another is that there was no unified German government as Hitler viewed that as a thread. He gave different overlapping responsibilities and had them fight it out for his favor.
By the way, how is the bold socialistic?
The level of control. It reminds me of Putin's
version of capitalism, ie, that companies must
act in a manner that pleases him, or they'll
be nationalized.
"Ownership" is all about the level of control more
than nominal title to an asset. This is illustrated
when some real estate owners sue for inverse
condemnation due to government taking property
right to the extent that the asset is unproductive.
 
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