Buffalo Killer was a self described Leftist and Green Nationalist

[Subduction Zone]

@KW here is a political compass that has been filled in for you so that you can understand better:

 

[Subduction Zone]

No. Anarchy is a society without government; not on the left-right spectrum.

And usually tends to be far left.

 

[Twilight Hue]

You are conflating two different directions on the political compass:

Do they teach that in college?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Do they teach that in college?

Probably. It is not where I leaned it. Why? Were you unaware of the concept that there is not just "left and right" when it comes to politics?

 

[Revoltingest]

Fascism describes Mussolini's Italy (the first official Fascist regime). It's not interchangeable with other dictatorships that have different arrangements, it is a Right Wing ideology just as Nazism is RW just as communism is LW.

That is one usage of the word.
But the primary definition would include leftists.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Probably. It is not where I leaned it. Why? Were you unaware of the concept that there is not just "left and right" when it comes to politics?

Just curious about where that chart comes from.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Confirmed: Buffalo Killer Wasn't Conservative, Also Despised Fox News, Greg Gutfeld, Ben Shapiro, Rupert Murdoch (westernjournal.com)

Democrats are lying about this killer. It's quite shameful, but predictable.

It really appears that you have a giant hate-on for Democrats -- and pretty much everybody in the article you esteem seem to have similar hate-ons for those who espouse one political stance or another.

Wouldn't it be easier, safer -- and considerably more honest -- to wait and hear what actual investigators discover? Or is speculation to score hate points worth more to you?

 

[KW]

@KW here is a political compass that has been filled in for you so that you can understand better:

One man's opinion.

The true spectrum runs from No Government to Total Government Control.

By definition a left/right spectrum is runs right and left. This chart is clearly the creation of a leftist.

Facsism is almost identical to totalitarian communism.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Just curious about where that chart comes from.

Does that make a difference? There are quite a few sources that have those. Just Google search "Political compass".

One thing to remember, an America only political compass is going to be US centered and will have different values than a global one would. Which makes sense. Are we discussing American politics or global politics? One needs to use the right compass for the right situation. Using a European compass while discussing American politics can be very misleading. The US looks very right wing if one does that.

 

[KW]

Wouldn't it be easier, safer -- and considerably more honest -- to wait and hear what actual investigators discover? Or is speculation to score hate points worth more to you?

Is that what the Democrats did?

OR, did they immediately start lying about Republicans, Fox News, Tucker Carlson, etc.?

The thread I created is a response to the lies being spewed by Democrats.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Just curious about where that chart comes from.

It is a simple model with some assumptions, but it has a point. It misses international versus national though.

 

[Subduction Zone]

One man's opinion.

The true spectrum runs from No Government to Total Government Control.

By definition a left/right spectrum is runs right and left. This chart is clearly the creation of a leftist.

Facsism is almost identical to totalitarian communism.

Sorry, wrong. Yours is "one man's opinion". That is what people that have studied the issue have found. The left/right spectrum is simply wrong because it does not take into account the authoritarian/anarchy spectrum.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It is a simple model with some assumptions, but it has a point. It misses international versus national though.

Of course it is not perfect. In reality one would probably need a 4 d chart at least. But that is not easily visualized. It is more accurate than a one dimensional spectrum.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Is that what the Democrats did?

OR, did they immediately start lying about Republicans, Fox News, Tucker Carlson, etc.?

The thread I created is a response to the lies being spewed by Democrats.

I was talking to you, not to Democrats. I haven't written anything about this yet, because I haven't learned anything that I can consider evidentiary yet. The opinions of others, on either side, are not evidence.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

shameless Democrats are lying about this in order to gain political advantage.

This guy is a vicious, angry, violent racist and murderer. That screams MAGA. If he calls himself liberal, he doesn't know what the word means. If he says he hates Fox News, it's not because they're conservative liars.

And why should the Democrats be ashamed of anything they do to the Republicans. It is impossible to be unfair to the Republicans.

As usual, I don't believe this claim (do MAGA ever stop lying?), but as with the stealing of the election lie, do those people feel that patriotic Americans should object if it were true? If I knew for a fact that the election had been stolen from Trump, I would give a standing ovation to the protectors of democracy, which may seem a little convoluted - stealing elections to preserve fair elections - but sometimes one must be intolerant of the intolerant to defend the tolerant from the intolerant. Let these people prevail and they will steal your country from you and institute an authoritarian regime right out of Handmaid's Tale and 1984.

If the Democrats can lie, steal, or do anything else that hurts the Republicans, the act would have the same moral status as doing the same to Putin, to whom it is also impossible to be unfair. What could you do to Putin that could be called unfair or a reason to be ashamed? The Republicans have that same status. They are also enemies of America.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I was talking to you, not to Democrats. I haven't written anything about this yet, because I haven't learned anything that I can consider evidentiary yet. The opinions of others, on either side, are not evidence.

From what I understand some very minor Democratic commentators (I had to Google search them) said some bad things about those one the right inspiring this shooter. Therefore all Democrats are evil

 

[Twilight Hue]

It is a simple model with some assumptions, but it has a point. It misses international versus national though.

Fair enough. TX.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

From what I understand some very minor Democratic commentators (I had to Google search them) said some bad things about those one the right inspiring this shooter. Therefore all Democrats are evil

Of course.

Still, I've restricted myself so far to listening only to what is being said by those actively involved in the official investigation of the shooting. Speculation in such cases just leads nowhere useful.

 

[Subduction Zone]

This guy is a vicious, angry, violent racist and murderer. That screams MAGA. If he calls himself liberal, he doesn't know what the word means. If he says he hates Fox News, it's not because they're conservative liars.

And why should the Democrats be ashamed of anything they do to the Republicans. It is impossible to be unfair to the Republicans.

As usual, I don't believe this claim (do MAGA ever stop lying?), but as with the stealing of the election lie, do those people feel that patriotic Americans should object if it were true? If I knew for a fact that the election had been stolen from Trump, I would give a standing ovation to the protectors of democracy, which may seem a little convoluted - stealing elections to preserve fair elections - but sometimes one must be intolerant of the intolerant to defend the tolerant from the intolerant. Let these people prevail and they will steal your country from you and institute an authoritarian regime right out of Handmaid's Tale and 1984.

If the Democrats can lie, steal, or do anything else that hurts the Republicans, the act would have the same moral status as doing the same to Putin, to whom it is also impossible to be unfair. What could you do to Putin that could be called unfair or a reason to be ashamed? The Republicans have that same status. They are also enemies of America.

Supposedly he says that he is a green Nazi. Our OP does not like the fact that Nazi's are about as conservative as it gets on the political spectrum. He tried to argue that "socialism" was in their name and in their platform. He had no answer for North Korea's official name has them listed as democracy and a republic and their constitution supports that too.

For @KW, it was the actions of the Nazis that tell us that they are a conservative despotism. It is the actions of Kim Jong-un and his father that tells us that North Korea is a despotic far left communist country. Words don't mean a lot in the world of politics. You should know that.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Of course.

Still, I've restricted myself so far to listening only to what is being said by those actively involved in the official investigation of the shooting. Speculation in such cases just leads nowhere useful.

Same here. I know that those on the left will say. And those on the right are wisely not saying anything. Well except those that are off the edge it seems.

Though clearly conservative the shooter in no way represents conservatism any more than the unabomber represented liberalism. Extremists do not represent either party.