By Faith. Why?

[Subduction Zone]

Doctor Malone, who actually invented the mRNA technology for the covid vaccine, along with 17,000 physicians, says that the covid shots should be stopped, and that they produce adverse reactions, including clots and strokes among young people. I couldn't find a link to the original podcast, but here is one similar:
Headwind—Dr. Robert W. Malone (theepochtimes.com) And covid 19 is not larger than your standard flu virus. The mask will not handle one differently from the other.

And when I have a mechanical problem, an electrical problem, a plumbing problem, or a health problem, I see to myself. The last persons I would trust are the so called "experts",such as Fauci, who are paid by the pharmaceutical companies, whose power originated with J.D. Rockefeller and his patten medicine business after becoming rich with Standard Oil monopolies.

No, Dr. Malone had a big part of it. Claiming that he invented it is a bit much. But he got bitter for some reason and has gone into quackery. He has no peer reviewed papers that support his beliefs. And that is how scientists communicate. He is no longer a scientist in that sense.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

That suggests that 10 000 times you have chosen to ignore the teaching that you are a sinner!

According to scripture, you will go to the grave as a sinner and your sin with be judged. And, the outlook is not good because 'the wages of sin is death' (of the soul).

I acknowledge my sin, and have sought God as the only Saviour. In Jesus Christ l find that Saviour.

So you acknowledge your sin, you just don’t want the consequences?

 

[Subduction Zone]

That might be true in your vivid imagination, but then again, you probably depend on CNN and MSNBC for your input. The Nazis were capitalist in the realm of the government controlling all of the corporations, as they were national socialist. The present Progressive Marxist administration is all in for regulating control of industry, while bank rolling it through the Federal Reserve through monetary easing. Most of zombie corporations would have already gone bankrupt through normal free market capitalism.

You likely do not even know what a Marxist is.

What policies of the present administration are "Marxist". By the way, the Federal Reserve is a tool of capitalism. Using it makes on a capitalist, not a Marxist. You just contradicted yourself and demonstrated that you do not know what you are talking about.

 

[2ndpillar]

The bottom line is that science deals with [the physical nature of] creation

Apparently, science does not understand the "physical nature of creation", and their ideas around time and gravity, seem to fluctuate with time and distance above the earth. If science and "experts" is your foundation, look forward to a "great earthquake" underlying your foundational theories.

 

[2ndpillar]

So you acknowledge your sin, you just don’t want the consequences?

Her consequence will be that she will die (Jeremiah 31:30), despite what her false prophet Paul taught her. She just thinks her death will be temporary, which according to Revelation 20:12-13 is true, but she fails to realize her position with respect to being found in the book of life and escaping the "lake of fire". (Revelation 20:15)

 

[Subduction Zone]

Apparently, science does not understand the "physical nature of creation", and their ideas around time and gravity, seem to fluctuate with time and distance above the earth. If science and "experts" is your foundation, look forward to a "great earthquake" underlying your foundational theories.

It is more likely that you do not understand the science.


What are you confused about?

 

[2ndpillar]

You likely do not even know what a Marxist is.

What policies of the present administration are "Marxist". By the way, the Federal Reserve is a tool of capitalism. Using it makes on a capitalist, not a Marxist. You just contradicted yourself and demonstrated that you do not know what you are talking about.

Someone apparently doesn't know about Marxism. Marx and Lennon were the fathers of Socialism, which is the runway into communism. Marx/Lenin/Stalin are the gods of having government control everything, and the people supposedly owning everything, except it is the leaders who eat the fat of the land, and the peasants eating bugs and meal worms, and highly processed foods made out of soybeans and corn oils, under the control of such Progressive elite leaders such as Bill Gates, who owns the processing plants and the agricultural land necessary to produce the soybean highly processed based foods, which in turn produce bad health and provide support for the Progressive supporting Pharmaceutical companies.

 

[Audie]

Truth would not be truth if it wasn't inerrant.

The surprise to me is that you feel the need to enter a discussion forum on the scriptures when scripture holds no truth for you.

"Weren't".
That's a cute saying but you
are utterly confused.
There might be "inerrant
Truth" out there. But my
POINT concerns those who-
like you- think their opinions
are god- given inerrant Truths.

Which makes you inerrant.

How did you manage not to
understand that?

As to your "why" you again are
180 points off compass.
You just made up the " holds
no truth". Why do you feel free
to make up things about other people?

It's obvious thar the Bible contains a lot
of folk wisdom. Chinese tradition teaches
much of the same. Call those " truths"
If you like.

We find it strange that you guys think
you had to have a god to teach you!

And finally, on " why" do I question your
motives for preaching nonsense at me?

Are you someone so smug in your
self assurance that you reject all doubt
or question, think an unquestioned belief
is somehow good?

As for the why, for me?

Call it a study in cultural anthropology.

 

[2ndpillar]

It is more likely that you do not understand the science.


What are you confused about?

I am perplexed that your gods of science do not understand the science of gravity and have no accepted general theory to provide its mechanism.

Robert Brown
Physics Lecturer at Duke University Physics Department (1977–present)Author has 403 answers and 727K answer views2y
Do we actually know how exactly gravity works or is it all just theories for now?
All knowledge is “just theories”, so there is no good answer to your question. We have a very successful classical theory of gravitation, Newton’s Law of Gravitation. This law fails (usually by a tiny amount) under very specialized circumstances, and is replaced by an even more successful classical theory of gravitation where mass-energy curves space-time, producing exactly the same results as NLG in the appropriate limits but working in the cases where NLG fails. Both of these theories have a very hard time being reconciled with quantum field theory, but gravity is so weak compared to the other forces that we have almost no chance of directly observing the “graviton” — the presumed quantum of the gravitational energy and interaction — in action. There are a few promising theories of quantum gravity that might end up being consistent with gravity as spacetime curvature or gravity as being caused by a classical gravitational field, but none of them are either completely “finished” or experimentally validated as of now.

 

[Audie]

My disagreement with 2ndpillar is that he rejects large portions of scripture.

My disagreement with you is that you reject it all!

Disrinction sans difference.
FIRST, I don't reject all of it.
You made that up.

SECOND. The disagreeme ts are so
fundamental that if you guys ( christians)
don't even know kw from your Perfect Word
of God whether or not Jesus is supposed
to be god, or if god is such a psycho as
to drown e erythung in a flood or its just
a parable or plain apocryphal- you e got nothing.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Someone apparently doesn't know about Marxism. Marx and Lennon were the fathers of Socialism, which is the runway into communism. Marx/Lenin/Stalin are the gods of having government control everything, and the people supposedly owning everything, except it is the leaders who eat the fat of the land, and the peasants eating bugs and meal worms, and highly processed foods made out of soybeans and corn oils, under the control of such Progressive elite leaders such as Bill Gates, who owns the processing plants and the agricultural land necessary to produce the soybean highly processed based foods, which in turn produce bad health and provide support for the Progressive supporting Pharmaceutical companies.

Someone has never taken an economics class or may even history class in their life.

No, that is not "socialism" and it definitely is not Marxism. You are just using labels that you do not understand nor can support. This may come as a surprise to you, but if the government does not control capitalism to some extent people suffer. According to you child labor laws would probably count as "socialism".

 

[Subduction Zone]

I am perplexed that your gods of science do not understand the science of gravity and have no accepted general theory to provide its mechanism.

First of there are no 'gods of science". One learns eventually that there does not appear to be a need for gods. Take the god that you believe in. If you believe the Old Testament myths at all then you believe in an evil God.

Robert Brown
Physics Lecturer at Duke University Physics Department (1977–present)Author has 403 answers and 727K answer views2y
Do we actually know how exactly gravity works or is it all just theories for now?
All knowledge is “just theories”, so there is no good answer to your question. We have a very successful classical theory of gravitation, Newton’s Law of Gravitation. This law fails (usually by a tiny amount) under very specialized circumstances, and is replaced by an even more successful classical theory of gravitation where mass-energy curves space-time, producing exactly the same results as NLG in the appropriate limits but working in the cases where NLG fails. Both of these theories have a very hard time being reconciled with quantum field theory, but gravity is so weak compared to the other forces that we have almost no chance of directly observing the “graviton” — the presumed quantum of the gravitational energy and interaction — in action. There are a few promising theories of quantum gravity that might end up being consistent with gravity as spacetime curvature or gravity as being caused by a classical gravitational field, but none of them are either completely “finished” or experimentally validated as of now.

Oh my!! Anyone that says "just theories" has already lost the argument.

 

[Audie]

Someone apparently doesn't know about Marxism. Marx and Lennon were the fathers of Socialism, which is the runway into communism. Marx/Lenin/Stalin are the gods of having government control everything, and the people supposedly owning everything, except it is the leaders who eat the fat of the land, and the peasants eating bugs and meal worms, and highly processed foods made out of soybeans and corn oils, under the control of such Progressive elite leaders such as Bill Gates, who owns the processing plants and the agricultural land necessary to produce the soybean highly processed based foods, which in turn produce bad health and provide support for the Progressive supporting Pharmaceutical companies.

The church/king cabal had far more
control of everything in Europe than
any commie / socialist country.

 

[Audie]

The instant they claim to be witnesses and describe things that they weren’t there for makes them unreliable.

Only testimony that a person likes is
reliable.

 

[Redemptionsong]

There is a roblem with what you claim as 'good science' in the history of your posts. So far you have indicated what you falsely call objective evidence and documentary evidence of scripture that does not meet the criteria nor definition over 'good sciene.' Pretty much everyone including the most conservative believers in a literal Bible say they believe in 'good science.'

Yes, you indeed have imposed an interpretation of scripture based on what you believe is the 'wording pf scripture.'



OK, but does not address the problems with Genesis Creation, Adam and Eve and Exodus as well as your claims concerning the NT, and your false claims of objective and documentary evidence.

[quote\ The important thing to recognize from prophecy is that it has a deeper level of meaning that the one on the surface. This is why Genesis should be seen as a prologue to the whole of scripture, because it lays out the structure of God's plan from the time of Adam.

If you believe that Genesis is a creation myth without deeper prophetic meaning then you have clearly never studied any Jewish commentaries on the creation accounts. To take one example, the idea of the day as a thousand years is applied by rabbis to the days of creation in Genesis 1. This is found in Sanhedrin 97a-97b in the Talmud and has links to the coming of the Messiah. It also appears in the writings of Peter [2 Peter 3:8]

To suggest that l'm reaching these conclusions unaided is very flattering but wholly untrue.

The problem for those who view the Bible as the literature of man is that some interpretations are only made possible by additional prophetic utterances. Man does not have the foresight to create a book that unfolds in this way.

 

[Redemptionsong]

So are countless life forms that aren’t seen to be moral agents, like amoebas.

Yes, and they are part of this temporal world, too.

The Bible teaches that there will be a new heaven and a new earth:
Revelation 21:4. 'And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall thee be any more pain: for the former things are passed away'.

 

[Redemptionsong]

Lol, they were literally living off of other people.

They shared their goods, ensuring that the poorest were able to live during hard times.

Here are the words you clearly failed to read:
Acts 4:34,35. 'Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
And laid them at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need'.

 

[Redemptionsong]

The instant they claim to be witnesses and describe things that they weren’t there for makes them unreliable.

But they were there. Jesus himself chose them. And John the Baptist witnessed to the coming of Jesus. And Malachi prophecies John's coming [Malachi 3:1], as does lsaiah [lsaiah 40:3].

You seem to have overlooked an unbroken chain of events.

 

[3rdAngel]

I am claiming that your "scripture", the writings of Paul, is not "Scripture", and that Genesis 3:1-6 doesn't say what you say, as you say it interpreted through the lens of the writings of the false prophet Paul. As for what Paul wrote in 2 Timothy 3, he was actually writing about the holy writing he read from his youth, which would not include Hebrews or his own writings. What I am saying is that according to Hebrews and Paul, the "scriptures" the law and the prophets, have been made "obsolete" or nailed to a cross. Both being false foundations for the Gentile church of Paul.

Please forgive me but I do not believe you. I believe what you are claiming has not basis in truth or fact as already proven in my earlier posts and scriptures along with the questions asked of you that you are unwilling to respond to and address which show why what you claim and believe is not biblical.

Take Care.

 

[2ndpillar]

Please forgive me but I do not believe you. I believe what you are claiming has not basis in truth or fact as already proven in my earlier posts and scriptures along with the questions asked of you that you are unwilling to respond to and address which show why what you claim and believe is not biblical.

Take Care.

You have shown prove for nothing except referring to the false apostle Paul of Ephesus (Revelation 2:2) for the foundation of your viewpoint, and whose writings corresponds to your false perception of reality. Your definition of "scripture" relies on a viewpoint regarding the testimony of the false prophet Paul per 2 Timothy 3:15. Self-witnessing is "not true" (John 5:13). You can twist and turn all you want, but your testimony based on the twisted testimony of Paul, will not straighten with time. As the "Word" states in Jeremiah 31:30, "everyone will die for their own iniquities". One suffers from their own transgressions, and not from the transgressions of their fathers" (Jeremiah 31:29). Your message is the message of the "serpent" (Genesis 3:4), which is "you surely shall not die", whereas the "Word of God" says, "everyone will die" (Jeremiah 31:30). Either Paul is correct, and "we shall not all sleep/die", or the "Word of God" is correct. Your choice, and your "sour grapes".

John 5:31 King James Version 31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.