By the way -- if you claim to be a Christian...

[2ndpillar]

All this is happening right now, the wheat is being separated from the tares.

Jesus was the son of man but He was not the son of man who would come in the clouds.

Who is the Son of man who will come in the clouds of heaven?

The "son of man" to come in the clouds (Matthew 24:30), comes "immediately after the tribulation" (Matthew 24:29). There has not been the "great tribulation", "such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world" (Mt 24:22), whereas if it wasn't cut short, no one would survive. The war is to start in Jerusalem (Zechariah 14), and with respect to the graphic characterization, it appears to be accompanied by nuclear poisoning (Zechariah 14:12). Baha the father died in 1892. The sky didn't fall at that time (Revelation 16:21), nor were the "mountain not found" (Rev 16:20), nor did the cities of the nations/Gentiles fall (Rev 16:19).

 

[Trailblazer]

The "son of man" to come in the clouds (Matthew 24:30), comes "immediately after the tribulation" (Matthew 24:29). There has not been the "great tribulation", "such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world" (Mt 24:22), whereas if it wasn't cut short, no one would survive. The war is to start in Jerusalem (Zechariah 14), and with respect to the graphic characterization, it appears to be accompanied by nuclear poisoning (Zechariah 14:12). Baha the father died in 1892. The sky didn't fall at that time (Revelation 16:21), nor were the "mountain not found" (Rev 16:20), nor did the cities of the nations/Gentiles fall (Rev 16:19).

You are free to believe what you want to believe. Everyone interprets the Bible differently. Not even Christians agree on what verses mean, which is why there are so many different sects of Christianity.

 

[2ndpillar]

You are free to believe what you want to believe. Everyone interprets the Bible differently. Not even Christians agree on what verses mean, which is why there are so many different sects of Christianity.

There are so many sects of Christianity, because it is a daughter of Babel (Rev 17:5). Protestants have historically called the mother church, the Roman church, the "harlot of Babylon". In Babel, the language was multiplied, so that no one could understand each other. The Roman church is built on the false prophet Paul. It is based on the "message" of the "enemy"/"devil", which is at odds with the "message" of the "son of man" (Mt 13:37-41), which at the "end of the age", the "angels will be sent forth" to gather up the "wicked"/"tares" and throw them into the fire. Baha is just one of the many false prophets sent out at the "end of the age" (Matthew 24:24). The "kingdom of heaven" has nothing to do with the platitudes of Baha.

Matthew 13:37-41 37 He answered and said to them: “He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one. 39 The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels. 40 Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age. 41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, 42 and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

 

[YoursTrue]

I fully believe in Jesus, historical and risen, and for Christians, the Messiah. But all the writing about Him came long after the oral tradition which the
writers already experienced Him as the crucified and risen. What we read in the Gospels is written by the next generation, most Apostles long dead.
Many believe there existed the "Q" source which it is said contains Jesus own writings, the preaching of a prophet, nothing about a messiah and the like. It can be, by some scholars, that the identity of the source is found in Mt and LK.

Oh. "long after," the oral tradition, you say. OK, take care. (have a good evening) thank you for expressing yourself.

 

[YoursTrue]

Well, if you had paid closer attention, you would have noticed I was comparing the wickedness of killing children, which you seem to approve, with the wickedness of stealing cars in Canada, which lax Canadian prosecutors seem to also approve by letting car thieves run wild, and apparently other Progressives, at least until they get their cars stolen.

Many, many people are in jail, of course at the taxpayers' expense. And many others have been arrested more than once for crimes but let go back on the streets again.

 

[John53]

Many, many people are in jail, of course at the taxpayers' expense. And many others have been arrested more than once for crimes but let go back on the streets again.

Bit like religions that cover up the crimes of child abusers and move them around to different areas.

 

[Trailblazer]

Baha is just one of the many false prophets sent out at the "end of the age" (Matthew 24:24). The "kingdom of heaven" has nothing to do with the platitudes of Baha.

It is not Baha, it is Baha'u'llah, and He was the return of Christ and the messiah of the latter days as prophesied in the OT and the NT.
The clear and incontrovertible evidence is in the fulfilled prophecies...

It makes no difference to me if you believe that since I am only responsible to God for my own beliefs as we all are on judgment day.

”If, in the Day when all the peoples of the earth will be gathered together, any man should, whilst standing in the presence of God, be asked: “Wherefore hast thou disbelieved in My Beauty and turned away from My Self,” and if such a man should reply and say: “Inasmuch as all men have erred, and none hath been found willing to turn his face to the Truth, I, too, following their example, have grievously failed to recognize the Beauty of the Eternal,” such a plea will, assuredly, be rejected. For the faith of no man can be conditioned by any one except himself.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 143

 

[2ndpillar]

It is not Baha, it is Baha'u'llah, and He was the return of Christ and the messiah of the latter days as prophesied in the OT and the NT.
The clear and incontrovertible evidence is in the fulfilled prophecies...

It makes no difference to me if you believe that since I am only responsible to God for my own beliefs as we all are on judgment day.

”If, in the Day when all the peoples of the earth will be gathered together, any man should, whilst standing in the presence of God, be asked: “Wherefore hast thou disbelieved in My Beauty and turned away from My Self,” and if such a man should reply and say: “Inasmuch as all men have erred, and none hath been found willing to turn his face to the Truth, I, too, following their example, have grievously failed to recognize the Beauty of the Eternal,” such a plea will, assuredly, be rejected. For the faith of no man can be conditioned by any one except himself.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 143

Your "gleanings" of Baha are more in the realm of chaff, which is to be burned after the gathering.

Matthew 3:12 His winnowing fork is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clear His threshing floor; and He will gather His wheat into the barn, but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.”

 

[SkepticThinker]

Well, if you had paid closer attention, you would have noticed I was comparing the wickedness of killing children, which you seem to approve, with the wickedness of stealing cars in Canada, which lax Canadian prosecutors seem to also approve by letting car thieves run wild, and apparently other Progressives, at least until they get their cars stolen.

I said this, "Bodily autonomy certainly is a freedom I fully enjoy.
Unlike many American women at this point, unfortunately."

And instead of responding to what I said, you posted something about auto thefts, which of course, has absolutely zero to do with bodily autonomy.

Notice also, I said absolutely nothing about "killing children."

Terrible comparison that doesn't address the point in the slightest.

 

[2ndpillar]

Many, many people are in jail, of course at the taxpayers' expense. And many others have been arrested more than once for crimes but let go back on the streets again.

Apparently, Canadians are tired of having repeat offenders on the streets, and have revived the bail laws, whereas now the defendants have the onus of proving they are good candidates for bail, as of Jan 4, 2024. Seems to be too little and too late as with respect to getting Progressives and Progressive offenders off the streets.

8. Why were changes made to our bail system in 2023?​

In 2023, changes were made to the Criminal Code’s bail regime to address serious repeat violent offending, promote community safety, and reinforce public confidence in the administration of justice. These changes were developed in close collaboration with the provinces and territories, who play a critical role in administering the bail system and ensuring that it operates as intended. The amendments were also informed by engagement with law enforcement, community organizations, and other key partners and stakeholders. Furthermore, they were developed while being mindful of Charter rights, including the right not to be denied reasonable bail without just cause. These amendments took effect on January 4, 2024.

 

[2ndpillar]

Notice also, I said absolutely nothing about "killing children.

You said, "I said this, "Bodily autonomy certainly is a freedom I fully enjoy.
Unlike many American women at this point, unfortunately."

"Body autonomy" is a bird whistle for kill all the unborn children which you want. It is call "abortion".

 

[Trailblazer]

Your "gleanings" of Baha are more in the realm of chaff, which is to be burned after the gathering.

The Bible is an ancient book fraught with errors, contradictions and inconsistencies, written by fallible men who did not even know Jesus.
By stark contrast, Gleanings is excerpts from Tablets that were written in the Pen of a Manifestation of God and stamped with His official Seal.

The Bible no longer needed for anything but a bookend because the Christian dispensation has been unconditionally abrogated by the Revelation of Baha'ullah.

“In conclusion of this theme, I feel, it should be stated that the Revelation identified with Bahá’u’lláh abrogates unconditionally all the Dispensations gone before it .....

A Revelation, hailed as the promise and crowning glory of past ages and centuries, as the consummation of all the Dispensations within the Adamic Cycle, inaugurating an era of at least a thousand years’ duration, and a cycle destined to last no less than five thousand centuries, signalizing the end of the Prophetic Era and the beginning of the Era of Fulfillment, unsurpassed alike in the duration of its Author’s ministry and the fecundity and splendor of His mission—such a Revelation was, as already noted, born amidst the darkness of a subterranean dungeon in Tihrán—an abominable pit that had once served as a reservoir of water for one of the public baths of the city.” God Passes By, p. 100

The fact that you do not know that does not change what God has ordained for humanity in this age.

“Say: He ordaineth as He pleaseth, by virtue of His sovereignty, and doeth whatsoever He willeth at His own behest. He shall not be asked of the things it pleaseth Him to ordain. He, in truth, is the Unrestrained, the All-Powerful, the All-Wise.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p, 284

 

[SkepticThinker]

You said, "I said this, "Bodily autonomy certainly is a freedom I fully enjoy.
Unlike many American women at this point, unfortunately."

"Body autonomy" is a bird whistle for kill all the unborn children which you want. It is call "abortion".

Nope. It means exactly what it says and it applies equally to both men and women.
You enjoy the right to have control over your own body, and so do I, as it should be. You have zero right to tell me what I need to be doing with my own body and vice versa.

Or think about it this way ... would you like it if next time you were at the doctor's office, I came with you and decided for you what treatment you would be receiving (or not receiving) and you don't get any input. Other people decide for you. If there's a life-saving treatment and I decide you can't have it, then oh well, too bad for you. Sounds pretty crappy, right?

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

And you call yourself a Christian? Yikes.

So do I. He's as much a Christian as anybody else who believes Christian doctrine. It's a myth that such people are good people. Some are and many aren't, but all of that is Christianity. To judge its effect on people, we must look at them all and see the spectrum and distribution of the kinds of people that the religion generates.

My experience is that the more of that religion one imbibes, the worse it is for him and his neighbors. The less, the more Christians resemble atheistic humanists. Some are indistinguishable from the latter apart from professing a god belief. I call those theistic humanists, and we have several here on RF, all well-educated, and most in the sciences.

But we see many more of the zealous type of Christian, who appears to be intellectually and/or morally damaged from too much religion, something I've learned from discussion groups like this one, where we see their full spectrum and can assess their relative frequency, their relative intelligence, and their relative decency.

I don't call myself a "Christian"

As you just read, I do. Do you believe that the New Testament is a message from a god who sent a demigod to earth to save man from himself if they believe that? Do you believe in the afterlife described in scripture. Do you cite scripture as authoritative? Apply the Duck Razor ("If it walks like a duck ...").

Joshua 23:10 A single man makes a thousand flee, because the LORD your God is the one who is fighting for you, just as he promised you.

You seem to see that as validation. You're repulsing people, and consider that evidence that you're on the right track. That would be an example of the kind of thinking that follows from too much religion.

I pick the low hanging fruit.

And I suppose you also see that as a flattering description of yourself.

2nd amendment: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Can we also assume that you consider yourself part of a well-regulated militia?

Your covid vaccine will not prevent you from getting covid, or even of passing it along. What it will in many cases damage your organs and reduce your immune system capability. When people who have had covid shots die, sometimes they are autopsied, and what is found is growths throughout the organs. What dozens of Covid-19 patient autopsies have revealed about the disease Your body is now a time bomb.

Actually, if you've had covid while unvaccinated, it's you that are at risk. There are no long-term sequelae to vaccines. If you're going to be harmed by one, you will know in less than six months. But there are many well-known examples of long-term consequences of viral infections:

You probably know that shingles is long VZV (varicella-zoster virus) and that AIDS is long HIV (human immunodeficiency virus), but I don't think most people realize that cervical cancer is long HPV (papillomavirus), Multiple Sclerosis is long EBV (Epstein-Barr Virus), Alzheimer's is long HSV (herpes simple virus), and liver cancer is long HCV (hepatitis C virus). It's obviously best to never get that infection, but if you do, to have antibodies ready to limit it already in the blood stream to prevent or minimize deep-seated tissue infection is desirable.

And we know of some of the long-term damage that Covid can cause:

LUNG
New study into long-term impacts of lung damage after COVID-19 – UKRI
Study examines the effect of long COVID on lung health (medicalnewstoday.com)

KIDNEY
Kidney Damage Another Consequence of 'Long COVID' (webmd.com)
Long-term effects of Covid-19 on the kidney | QJM: An International Journal of Medicine | Oxford Academic (oup.com)

HEART
The COVID Heart—One Year After SARS-CoV-2 Infection, Patients Have an Array of Increased Cardiovascular Risks | Cardiology | JAMA | JAMA Network
COVID-19 (coronavirus): Long-term effects - Mayo Clinic

BRAIN
Severe COVID-19 can trigger drop in IQ similar to aging 20 years, study shows - UPI.com

Study Finds COVID-19 May Lower Intelligence (webmd.com)

And maybe you should take another look at the link you provided. It's about the harm Covid infections cause, not the vaccines.

You are colluding with others to ignore post, which is a combined effort of censorship.

Nobody can censor you on RF except the admins and mods.

I don't know, the Canadian dollar used to be almost equal to one US dollar. Now it is around $0.75. You may think you are free, but most Canadians are having trouble paying rent, and the immigrants are simply going back home from where they came. Your constitution doesn't give a fundamental right to carry guns. Without that, you cannot defend incursions of the Canadian government into any rights you might claim. A good many Canadians can't afford their homes or the energy to heat them. Buying a home in Toronto (average cost $1.1 million) is out of the question. The Canadian government is trying to tax their farmers out of business. That is why your eggs cost $4-$5/dozen, milk $5.49/gallon.

Yet she prefers living in Canada to the US. Maybe it's because of the healthier culture, and by now, better weather.

I'm an America but haven't lived there for 15 years. Both of us are telling you that we prefer life elsewhere. My wife and I don't even visit the States since the last of our four parents died a decade ago.

Many Canadians winter in our part of Mexico. They fly down every fall and return to Canada in the spring (we're losing our Canadian snowbirds now, who I know principally through our local bridge club). If they can't get a non-stop flight to a Canadian airport, they prefer to land in Tijuana than say Dallas or Atlanta. They dislike the airports and TSA, and don't want to be shot up in an airport. Yet most Americans think that everybody else in the world wants to be there. None of the expat Europeans I know have any interest in living in America. And none of the Mexicans I know do, either, but we live in a temperate, peaceful, prosperous and beautiful place, so why would they? They aren't seeking asylum.

Having the opportunity to kill the unborn is not universally considered freedom.

Disagree. Freedom's just another word for something else to choose.

black on black crime, which is built on lack of education, fatherless families, Progressive religions, and lack of proper values.

Change progressive religion to regressive religion, and you've just described MAGA.

 

[SkepticThinker]

So do I. He's as much a Christian as anybody else who believes Christian doctrine. It's a myth that such people are good people. Some are and many aren't, but all of that is Christianity. To judge its effect on people, we must look at them all and see the spectrum and distribution of the kinds of people that the religion generates.

My experience is that the more of that religion one imbibes, the worse it is for him and his neighbors. The less, the more Christians resemble atheistic humanists. Some are indistinguishable from the latter apart from professing a god belief. I call those theistic humanists, and we have several here on RF, all well-educated, and most in the sciences.

But we see many more of the zealous type of Christian, who appears to be intellectually and/or morally damaged from too much religion, something I've learned from discussion groups like this one, where we see their full spectrum and can assess their relative frequency, their relative intelligence, and their relative decency.

Good point. And also on point.

As you just read, I do. Do you believe that the New Testament is a message from a god who sent a demigod to earth to save man from himself if they believe that? Do you believe in the afterlife described in scripture. Do you cite scripture as authoritative? Apply the Duck Razor ("If it walks like a duck ...").

You seem to see that as validation. You're repulsing people, and consider that evidence that you're on the right track. That would be an example of the kind of thinking that follows from too much religion.

And I suppose you also see that as a flattering description of yourself.

Can we also assume that you consider yourself part of a well-regulated militia?

Actually, if you've had covid while unvaccinated, it's you that are at risk. There are no long-term sequelae to vaccines. If you're going to be harmed by one, you will know in less than six months. But there are many well-known examples of long-term consequences of viral infections:

You probably know that shingles is long VZV (varicella-zoster virus) and that AIDS is long HIV (human immunodeficiency virus), but I don't think most people realize that cervical cancer is long HPV (papillomavirus), Multiple Sclerosis is long EBV (Epstein-Barr Virus), Alzheimer's is long HSV (herpes simple virus), and liver cancer is long HCV (hepatitis C virus). It's obviously best to never get that infection, but if you do, to have antibodies ready to limit it already in the blood stream to prevent or minimize deep-seated tissue infection is desirable.

And we know of some of the long-term damage that Covid can cause:

LUNG
New study into long-term impacts of lung damage after COVID-19 – UKRI
Study examines the effect of long COVID on lung health (medicalnewstoday.com)

KIDNEY
Kidney Damage Another Consequence of 'Long COVID' (webmd.com)
Long-term effects of Covid-19 on the kidney | QJM: An International Journal of Medicine | Oxford Academic (oup.com)

HEART
The COVID Heart—One Year After SARS-CoV-2 Infection, Patients Have an Array of Increased Cardiovascular Risks | Cardiology | JAMA | JAMA Network
COVID-19 (coronavirus): Long-term effects - Mayo Clinic

BRAIN
Severe COVID-19 can trigger drop in IQ similar to aging 20 years, study shows - UPI.com

Study Finds COVID-19 May Lower Intelligence (webmd.com)

And maybe you should take another look at the link you provided. It's about the harm Covid infections cause, not the vaccines.

Nobody can censor you on RF except the admins and mods.

Yet she prefers living in Canada to the US. Maybe it's because of the healthier culture, and by now, better weather.

Yes to both. And universal healthcare is must for me.

I'm an America but haven't lived there for 15 years. Both of us are telling you that we prefer life elsewhere. My wife and I don't even visit the States since the last of our four parents died a decade ago.

Many Canadians winter in our part of Mexico. They fly down every fall and return to Canada in the spring (we're losing our Canadian snowbirds now, who I know principally through our local bridge club). If they can't get a non-stop flight to a Canadian airport, they prefer to land in Tijuana than say Dallas or Atlanta. They dislike the airports and TSA, and don't want to be shot up in an airport. Yet most Americans think that everybody else in the world wants to be there. None of the expat Europeans I know have any interest in living in America. And none of the Mexicans I know do, either, but we live in a temperate, peaceful, prosperous and beautiful place, so why would they? They aren't seeking asylum.

Yep again. We used to visit the States on a fairly regular basis. When I was a kid we spent a lot of time travelling around, as we have some friends and family in various places in Florida and California. Now though, I honestly have no desire to visit anymore and haven't in a few years. My last trip being a work trip to Las Vegas, just before that mass shooting at the outdoor concert. It doesn't feel safe to me anymore.

Disagree. Freedom's just another word for something else to choose.

Change progressive religion to regressive religion, and you've just described MAGA.

 

[2ndpillar]

And none of the Mexicans I know do, either, but we live in a temperate, peaceful, prosperous and beautiful place, so why would they? They aren't seeking asylum.

The highest murder rate in the world is Mexico. 26 murders per 100,000 population. And they have strict gun laws. The Mexicans in California are fleeing to Mexico because of the Progressive values, leading to high prices and crime, which are mimicked by Canada, as shown by high rate of car thefts. If you are in Canada, buy an EV, and no one will steal it, because no one with any sense wants one. California is just as beautiful as any place, depending on location. Immigrants are fleeing Canada. Too high cost and too cold.

Murder Rate by Country 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

Immigrants explain why they're leaving Canada

Dozens of people who came to Canada as immigrants have reached out to CTVNews.ca to explain why they've abandoned their efforts to build a life here and are moving on to greener pastures.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[2ndpillar]

Nope. It means exactly what it says and it applies equally to both men and women.
You enjoy the right to have control over your own body, and so do I, as it should be. You have zero right to tell me what I need to be doing with my own body and vice versa.

Or think about it this way ... would you like it if next time you were at the doctor's office, I came with you and decided for you what treatment you would be receiving (or not receiving) and you don't get any input. Other people decide for you. If there's a life-saving treatment and I decide you can't have it, then oh well, too bad for you. Sounds pretty crappy, right?

Simple. I don't go to doctors, nor do I go out and get vaccine shots, of any kind. They can't take my job, because I am self-employed. I purchase and grow my own food. It has been the Progressive government and the pharmaceutical industry which has been forcing things down people's throats. I subscribe to neither. I owe no one and have alternate energy sources. When the sky falls, I have food, water, fuel, shelter, and security. What do you have to remain secure from the government and their edicts? All you have is a stool to yell your warmed-over ideas from.

 

[2ndpillar]

The Bible is an ancient book fraught with errors, contradictions and inconsistencies, written by fallible men who did not even know Jesus.
By stark contrast, Gleanings is excerpts from Tablets that were written in the Pen of a Manifestation of God and stamped with His official Seal.

The Bible no longer needed for anything but a bookend because the Christian dispensation has been unconditionally abrogated by the Revelation of Baha'ullah.

“In conclusion of this theme, I feel, it should be stated that the Revelation identified with Bahá’u’lláh abrogates unconditionally all the Dispensations gone before it .....

A Revelation, hailed as the promise and crowning glory of past ages and centuries, as the consummation of all the Dispensations within the Adamic Cycle, inaugurating an era of at least a thousand years’ duration, and a cycle destined to last no less than five thousand centuries, signalizing the end of the Prophetic Era and the beginning of the Era of Fulfillment, unsurpassed alike in the duration of its Author’s ministry and the fecundity and splendor of His mission—such a Revelation was, as already noted, born amidst the darkness of a subterranean dungeon in Tihrán—an abominable pit that had once served as a reservoir of water for one of the public baths of the city.” God Passes By, p. 100

The fact that you do not know that does not change what God has ordained for humanity in this age.

“Say: He ordaineth as He pleaseth, by virtue of His sovereignty, and doeth whatsoever He willeth at His own behest. He shall not be asked of the things it pleaseth Him to ordain. He, in truth, is the Unrestrained, the All-Powerful, the All-Wise.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p, 284

Baha was originally a Muslim, until he was thrown out, who originally thought the Koran was from Alah, and the Koran said that the "book of the people"/Jews, was from Alah, and that "Jesus" was a prophet of Allah. The Muslim narrative was simply expropriated from the writings of the Jews, the Christians, and the Persians. Baha, like, Stalin (bank robber), got his direction from others, and had a jail cell to ruminate on them.

 

[Trailblazer]

Baha was originally a Muslim, until he was thrown out, who originally thought the Koran was from Alah, and the Koran said that the "book of the people"/Jews, was from Alah, and that "Jesus" was a prophet of Allah. The Muslim narrative was simply expropriated from the writings of the Jews, the Christians, and the Persians. Baha, like, Stalin (bank robber), got his direction from others, and had a jail cell to ruminate on them.

Baha'u'llah got His direction from God when He received a Revelation from God.
He did not need the Qur'an or the Bible to know the God's truth since God taught Him the knowledge of all that had been.

“O KING! I was but a man like others, asleep upon My couch, when lo, the breezes of the All-Glorious were wafted over Me, and taught Me the knowledge of all that hath been. This thing is not from Me, but from One Who is Almighty and All-Knowing. And He bade Me lift up My voice between earth and heaven, and for this there befell Me what hath caused the tears of every man of understanding to flow. The learning current amongst men I studied not; their schools I entered not. Ask of the city wherein I dwelt, that thou mayest be well assured that I am not of them who speak falsely. This is but a leaf which the winds of the will of thy Lord, the Almighty, the All-Praised, have stirred. Can it be still when the tempestuous winds are blowing? Nay, by Him Who is the Lord of all Names and Attributes! They move it as they list. The evanescent is as nothing before Him Who is the Ever-Abiding. His all-compelling summons hath reached Me, and caused Me to speak His praise amidst all people. I was indeed as one dead when His behest was uttered. The hand of the will of thy Lord, the Compassionate, the Merciful, transformed Me. Can any one speak forth of his own accord that for which all men, both high and low, will protest against him? Nay, by Him Who taught the Pen the eternal mysteries, save him whom the grace of the Almighty, the All-Powerful, hath strengthened. The Pen of the Most High addresseth Me saying: r not. Relate unto His Majesty the Sháh that which befell thee. His heart, verily, is between the fingers of thy Lord, the God of Mercy, that haply the sun of justice and bounty may shine forth above the horizon of his heart. Thus hath the decree been irrevocably fixed by Him Who is the All-Wise.”

Proclamation of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 57-58

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

The highest murder rate in the world is Mexico.

That's incorrect, but let's stipulate to it. That's not relevant to me or most people living in Mexico unless they're in the cartels or attempting to oppose them (politicians, judges, journalists, policemen). The cartels are here in my part of Mexico, but nobody in my demographic and circumstances is being killed by them. Actually, a couple of cartel members recovered a stolen motorcycle for one of my Mexican neighbors. There was a shootout with police a few years back, but unless one is in the wrong place at the wrong time and is caught in the crossfire, it's not a threat to us. I don't know of that happening around here ever, but perhaps it has before we arrived 15 years ago.

The Mexicans in California are fleeing to Mexico because of the Progressive values, leading to high prices and crime

I'm not sure that you're correct about that, but if you are, you're making my point about America being undesirable to many including Mexicans. I'm not saying that America is the worst place to live, just that many people prefer to be elsewhere, and I would add that living there is a poor value, especially for a retiree.

I don't go to doctors, nor do I go out and get vaccine shots, of any kind. They can't take my job, because I am self-employed. I purchase and grow my own food. It has been the Progressive government and the pharmaceutical industry which has been forcing things down people's throats. I subscribe to neither.

You call it forcing things down people's throats and describe how easy it is to say no to it. Earlier, you were bemoaning being censored when not a single word you've wanted to post has been censored. You seem discontent over nothing.