What the ancient tribal Christian believers do is persecute and ethnic cleanse the "enemy," and ah . . . Conversion by the Sword.
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The accused "abuser" ran and won in 2015. Where was her story back then? She is a writer with a column, with plenty of reach. No, you would do anything you could to keep Trump from even running, except that she has gone ahead and jumped ahead and made her claims, and all you can do is support her efforts to undermine the coming election. Your position is seemingly without consequences to you, at least on the surface, at least until Mr. Karma finds out where you live.
Providing a video made with E. Carroll's consent, is not defamation. It is a review of the supposed facts you hang your hat on. Both she and you apparently have motive to call Trump a rapist, when that was the charge brought to court, and the jury determined that charge was not proven. Now you are back pedaling to a "sexual abuse" charge because people saying Trump was convicted of rape, are being sued. Listen, that gal who you peeved off, is looking to hang something on your door. You might consider moving to the country with no forwarding address. If it is under the statute of limitations, you might be looking at jail time. That is how Karma works. Carroll might, as with Biden, escape prosecution for lack of mental capacity, but that might or might not work for you. One should be careful how they judge others. Just saying.
You are correct. The cat's name is Vagina T. Fireball. Vagina is apparently the cat's first name.
Fact Check: Trump Was Right, E. Jean Carroll Does Have a Cat That Has a Disgusting Name
A theory is something based on postulates. Communism isn't a theory, for it has been historically put into practice for a long time, and with the case of Mao, ended in approximately 15 million deaths from starvation alone, and with Stalin, somewhere in the order 5 million starvation deaths in the Ukraine alone. The death due to communism, range from 20 to 185 million per wikipedia.
Mass killings under communist regimes - Wikipedia
Mao Zedong: Biography, Cultural Revolution, Major Facts, & Death - World History Edu
Learn more about the life, family, works, and atrocities of Mao Zedong, the Founding Father of the People's Republic of China.
worldhistoryedu.com
How Joseph Stalin Starved Millions in the Ukrainian Famine | HISTORY
Cruel efforts under Stalin to impose collectivism and tamp down Ukrainian nationalism left an estimated 3.9 million dead.
www.history.com
SkepticThinker
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Nope. Not in quotes.
He was found civilly liable for sexual abuse and defamation of the person he abused in a COURT OF LAW. That means you have to remove the quotes. He IS a sexual abuser.
She published an article about it in 2019.
The two women she told about the sexual abuse, around the time it happened confirmed with New York Magazine that Carroll had confided what happened to her shortly after it happened. They testified to the same at the trial.
Donald Trump Assaulted Me, But He’s Not Alone on My List of Hideous Men
“I made a list of hideous men in my life. It includes the president — who assaulted me in the dressing room of Bergdorf Goodman 23 years ago.”
www.thecut.com
Journalist E. Jean Carroll accuses Trump, Moonves of sexual assault - UPI.com
Journalist and advice columnist E. Jean Carroll accused President Donald Trump and former CBS CEO Les Moonves of sexual assault in an excerpt of her forthcoming book published Friday in New York magazine.
@Subduction Zone has already pointed this out to you.
At this point in time, at least 18 women have accused Donald Trump of sexual misconduct/abuse/assault. His list is almost as long as Bill Cosby's.
List of Trump's accusers and their allegations of sexual misconduct
At least 18 women have accused Donald Trump of varying inappropriate behavior, including allegations of sexual harassment or sexual assault. Here is a rundown.
He's also on tape talking about how he abuses women, by grabbing them by the *****.
'Access Hollywood' tape can be used in civil case against Trump, judge rules
Lawyers for the former president had sought to exclude the notorious recording from the defamation case brought by a writer who's accused Trump of raping her in the 1990s.
www.nbcnews.com
And he's also on tape bragging about sneaking backstage in order to view underage girls changing at the Miss Teen USA Pageant.
“I’ll tell you the funniest is that I’ll go backstage before a show and everyone’s getting dressed,” Trump told Stern.
“No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it. … ‘Is everyone OK?’ You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible-looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”
Former Miss New Hampshire Bridget Sullivan told BuzzFeed News in May that it was “shocking” Trump would come backstage to wish the contestants good luck when many of them weren’t dressed.
“The time that he walked through the dressing rooms was really shocking. We were all naked,” Sullivan said."
Trump told Stern he walked backstage when beauty queens were naked
Trump’s campaign denied that the nominee ever walked backstage.
thehill.com
Why anyone would want to hitch their horse to this disgusting man is beyond me.
Meaning?
Yes, I would.
She proved her claims in a court of law. And won. And then won again when he defamed her yet again.
How has she done that, exactly?
My position is that sexual abusers are horrid disgusting people that she be in jail instead of leading a country.
Oh cool, threats.
SkepticThinker
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This was in response to, "What's your video supposed to prove? That "crazy" people can't be sexually abused?
I assure you that they can.
Otherwise, what's your point here? Are you just here to further defame E. Jean Carroll? Maybe she should bring a case against you."
I don't see anything in your response that addresses what I said.
And I haven't backpedaled anything.
Here's a thought, and some helpful advice: Don't sexually abuse people.
Oh, I'm going to judge sexual abusers - especially ones who brag about it - as much as I can and as often as I can. They are horrid people who don't deserve to walk among us.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
So it's not "Vagina."
Rather it's Vagina T. Fireball, which apparently is a play on Groucho Marx's character in Duck Soup (Rufus T. Firefly).
My point was and is ... who cares? What does it have to do with her being sexually abused? Are people with animals named after body parts allowed to be sexually abused? What's your point in pointing out that she's "crazy" and a sex columnist? Are such people immune from sexual abuse?
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
It's a political theory. Not a religion.A theory is something based on postulates. Communism isn't a theory, for it has been historically put into practice for a long time, and with the case of Mao, ended in approximately 15 million deaths from starvation alone, and with Stalin, somewhere in the order 5 million starvation deaths in the Ukraine alone. The death due to communism, range from 20 to 185 million per wikipedia.
Mass killings under communist regimes - Wikipedia
Mao Zedong: Biography, Cultural Revolution, Major Facts, & Death - World History Edu
Learn more about the life, family, works, and atrocities of Mao Zedong, the Founding Father of the People's Republic of China.How Joseph Stalin Starved Millions in the Ukrainian Famine | HISTORY
Cruel efforts under Stalin to impose collectivism and tamp down Ukrainian nationalism left an estimated 3.9 million dead.
The rest of your comments are irrelevant. Fascism is a political theory that when put into practice has killed many people as well. It doesn't make it a religion.
Your problem is that making an accusation, generally does not automatically produce a conviction. Trump's defense was not allowed to show the historical comments made by Ms. Carroll, which would have undermined any commonsense jury from coming to the conclusion that she was running on all cylinders. The women's lib element has crossed the line, and that has turned the young men of all races against Biden's Progressive policies, run by incompetent queers/gays (secretary of Transportation), trans (health secretary), women (Rep Lee Jackson), and women of color, especially with respect to his pick for vice president Harris. That according to Clinton strategist, James Carville, it is not looking good for Biden. I think the appeals system will take care of Trump's apparent conviction, but that conviction will only bring more supporters to Trump. The Fascist were for the elites and the government over the deplorables (little people). It is the deplorables who are going to win in the end. As for "judgment", well, you think you will have none, but I beg to differ. The "day of the LORD" (Joel 2:31) is with respect to the day of judgment (Joel 3:2) for the "nations"/Gentiles, whereas they will be sold into slavery (Joel 3:7-8) for their deeds.
Democrat Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee: Sun Is 'Almost' Impossible to Go Near, Moon 'Made Up Mostly of Gases'
Democrat Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee is under fire for her remarks about the moon and sun, concluding the former is "made up mostly of gases."
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SkepticThinker
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This was in response to, "My point was and is ... who cares? What does it have to do with her being sexually abused? Are people with animals named after body parts allowed to be sexually abused? What's your point in pointing out that she's "crazy" and a sex columnist? Are such people immune from sexual abuse?"
This trial had absolutely nothing to do with Joe Biden whatsoever. Don't know what that tangent is all about.
Again, you've not responded to anything I've said nor answered my questions nor addressed the point. You've just accused her of being crazy again, which isn't an argument for anything, as already noted.
It's just a heavily politically biased, hateful, anti-Democrat, anti-gay, anti-trans, sexist, racist rant.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
What claims of Carroll would ae undermined her testimony? Even more important what claims of Carroll would have undermined the other evidence that indicates that Trump was guilty?
You missed the anti-women part. I went ahead and edited the note with an expansion with respect to women of the present Biden administration apparatus, in the form of adding Representative Jackson Lee. As for trials, most trials allow cross examination of witnesses, which was curtailed in the Trump Carroll case. Amber Heard had to be thoroughly cross examined, and was found to have lied in that she made up evidence by way of photo shopping photos of her being bruised. Women are not always truthful. If your wife decides to trade you in, and she follows the current women lib "Me to" trends, she will hoard cash, tell her friends, leave you in the dark, get in touch with a divorce lawyer, and then set you up for domestic abuse case, while you are vacationing in California. That is if the Cartels don't get you first.
Democrat Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee: Sun Is 'Almost' Impossible to Go Near, Moon 'Made Up Mostly of Gases'
Democrat Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee is under fire for her remarks about the moon and sun, concluding the former is "made up mostly of gases."
Police find 7 bodies, 5 of them decapitated and 1 dismembered, in Mexico's fifth largest city
Authorities in one of Mexico's largest cities say they have found seven bodies — five of them decapitated and another completely dismembered — in a car left in the middle of traffic on a main expressway.
Other than the sole statement of a person of questionable motives and state of mind, there is no evidence. The video showing her saying she was not rape raped, which was kept out of the court, that might have undermined her state of mind. Other than she claimed on camera, that she was athletic, and kissed Trump, and then let him take down her work out tights, while in a large department store, without a peep, didn't report it, kind of lessens her credibility, especially when she was something like gossip queen, with her own news column. But no, it fits your narrative. Keep a tight lookout on your wife's spending. Sometimes if you don't watch out, a horse will bite you in the *ss.
Well, you could call it a cult rather than a religion, but cults are generally downplayed, and it would be a serious miscalculation to downplay Marxism. Their prophet is Marx, and their god is themselves (humanism), and their book is the "Communist Manifesto". Their followers include the Marxist Progressive left party, whose present puppet is President Biden. But keep in mind they are worldwide, and even known to habitat in Mexico.
I have 2ndpillar on "ignore". He cannot be reasoned with. His posts are invariably vitriolic nonsense.
For those without ears to hear, and eyes to see (Matthew 13:14 & Isaiah 6:9 & Daniel 12:10), well, they shouldn't expect to understand. If they survive the "day of distress", then they might have time to review the source of the misinformation (Jeremiah 16:19)
Jeremiah 16:19
New American Standard Bible
LORD, my strength and my stronghold, And my refuge in the day of distress, To You the nations will come From the ends of the earth and say, “Our fathers have inherited nothing but falsehood, Futility, and things of no benefit.”
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
I mentioned sexism.
So you're just going to double down on the rant that has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Now we're off on some tangent about Amber Heard and how women are big dumb liars. But with no supporting evidence for such claims. Just a sexist rant. Now ALL women are liars, not just E. Jean Carroll, even though you've not shown that she lied either.I went ahead and edited the note with an expansion with respect to women of the present Biden administration apparatus, in the form of adding Representative Jackson Lee. As for trials, most trials allow cross examination of witnesses, which was curtailed in the Trump Carroll case. Amber Heard had to be thoroughly cross examined, and was found to have lied in that she made up evidence by way of photo shopping photos of her being bruised. Women are not always truthful. If your wife decides to trade you in, and she follows the current women lib "Me to" trends, she will hoard cash, tell her friends, leave you in the dark, get in touch with a divorce lawyer, and then set you up for domestic abuse case, while you are vacationing in California. That is if the Cartels don't get you first.
Democrat Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee: Sun Is 'Almost' Impossible to Go Near, Moon 'Made Up Mostly of Gases'
Democrat Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee is under fire for her remarks about the moon and sun, concluding the former is "made up mostly of gases."www.breitbart.com
Police find 7 bodies, 5 of them decapitated and 1 dismembered, in Mexico's fifth largest city
Authorities in one of Mexico's largest cities say they have found seven bodies — five of them decapitated and another completely dismembered — in a car left in the middle of traffic on a main expressway.apnews.com
Nor have you answered a single one of my questions or points.
And you're still confusing me with another poster.
Mmkay.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
What "questionable motives?"
What questionable "state of mind?"
Great.
So when Trump was found civilly liable for sexual abuse and defamation, the courts made the right decision. E. Jean Carroll had the corroborating testimonies of two people she told about the abuse, around the time it happened.
Several other people testified on Carroll's behalf as well, all further corroborating her story.
11 witnesses testified in Donald Trump’s rape trial. Here’s what they said.
E. Jean Carroll is suing him in Manhattan federal court for battery over the alleged rape and for defamation over social media comments.
Where is this video?
What's that got to do with anything?
Kissing someone isn't an invitation for sexual assault or anything assault. It's a kiss. Are you under the impression that if you kiss someone, they're entitled to your body?
How does that lessen her credibility?
LOL What?
Well this just says it all, doesn't it.
I'm not buying your ignorant and misogynistic nonsense. Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt. You're obviously trying to imply that women make up sexual assault allegations all the time. Which you obviously think E. Jean Carroll has done. We hear this a lot from people who didn't learn anything from the #MeToo movement. In actuality, one in four women will be sexual assaulted or abused in their lifetimes. In actuality, rape and sexual abuse are drastically underreported.
I have a husband. I am a woman. I have been sexually abused. One in four women have been/will be sexually abused/assaulted in their lifetime (and that's just the ones that are actually reported, that we actually know about!). It's happened to me four times already. I am 44 years old. (And please note that I've pointed this out to you no less than two times already. You have not responded to it, and for some reason, you still seem to think I'm a man with a wife.)
And I'm here to tell you why sexual assaults/abuse are drastically underreported: It's due to attitudes such as the ones you've expressed here. Look how you've run her through the mud here. You point out that she writes a sex column as though that has anything at all to do with her being assaulted or implying that if one writes such a column that they've somehow your own fault if you end up being assaulted. You've claimed that she let him kiss her, as though that's an invitation for anything further than just kissing. You've claimed her to be a liar, without pointing out any of her lies. You've compared her case to another one in which you think the woman lied and made up evidence, and somehow applied that to the E. Jean Carroll case as though the women aren't separate people in separate cases with separate details. You've also likened her to a spurned wife who's just making stuff up to spite her husband. (A very misogynistic trope indeed). You've attacked her personally to no end, even bringing up things that have nothing at all to do with the case. You've claimed she really wanted it (as if anyone really wants to be sexually abused).
Now, just to let you know, when a person is sexually assaulted, they tend to feel ashamed about it, as though it was their own fault in some way, even when it wasn't. They feel fear, especially if they've been threatened not to tell anyone about it. They feel like they won't be believed by police, by their peers and by society. They fear they will be ostracized and torn apart by misogynistic attitudes such as yours ("What were you wearing?" or "You write a sex column" or "Your cat is named Vagina"). They feel gross and dirty and not fully human anymore. They feel violated and alone. For some, like myself, it's very difficult to talk about the details of the attack because you have to give up intimate details about your own body to complete strangers like police officers and court officers. Which is why reporting it is hard for some people. Not to mention how invasive and degrading the rape kit test is, assuming you even get one. And on top of that, IF (big if) it does make it to court, now you have to sit there, you have to testify the awful details of the violation against your body, with the person who violated you staring right at you the entire time. Just the thought of that alone puts me into a cold sweat. I've suffered debilitating panic attacks my entire life, thanks to the assaults that have happened to me. This stuff ain't easy to deal with and it's not a game.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
You could call it a cult if you want, but you'd still be wrong.
Joe Biden isn't a communist. LOL He's a capitalist.