Subduction Zone
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Actually you did no such thing. Please be honest. You did not understand what Timothy was saying. You were pretending that I was saying something I never said saying that Timothy was not saying that you have to read everything in the bible literally. You were then corrected when I told you that was not the reason I posted 2 Timothy 3:16. It was posted to show that the bible teaches scripture is the inspired Word of God which is what the scriptures say word for word disagreeing with what you are saying word for word and proving what you say is not truthful. As proven earlier, you are not able to support your accusation that context changes the meaning of the scriptures shared with you earlier. I did not think you could. That is why I challenged you to prove your claims. All you posted werre empty words you are unable to prove again. Your lose again sadly because you simple choose to stay in unbelief and not believe what the scriptures say.
You may not have understood the refutation, That does not mean that it did not happen.
As posted earlier the scriptures (not me) say verbatim that "Whatsoever is not of faith is sin" (Romans 14:23) and that faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God (Romans 10:17) and that the scriptures are Gods inspired Word (2 Timothy 3:15-16). That is what scripture (not me) says verbatim disagreeing with you. I believe the scriptures which is why I do not believe you. As it is written let Gods Word be true and and every man a liar (Romans 3:4)
You continue to take a series of scriptures out of context. They only say that disbelief is a sin. By the way, that alone tells you that those quotes at least are not the "word of God". Also "scriptures" is never defined. It cannot be the Gospels. They were written well after Paul wrote that. For your argument to work you need to demonstrate the the entire Bible is "scripture". Why assume that Romans is scripture. Now you would have Paul claiming his work is scripture because he says so. I can do the same thing. I can state that anything that I write is scripture as well. Though Paul never made the error that you imply that the made.
What was posted to you earlier is indeed true. You choose the world over God and believe God is a liar and the worldly wise tell you the truth. You became atheist because you choose not to believe God and His Word.
Nope, now lets see if you can reason logically. I chose God. You chose a book. If God was real then he made the world. If anything is the "word of God" it is the evidence that God's own work created. And the world tells us quite clearly that there was no Flood of Noah. That there was no Adam and Eve. That the Tower of Babel is just another myth.
You on the other hand claim that God is a liar because God's own work, that is again assuming that God exits, tells us that Genesis cannot be interpreted literally. For Genesis to be true God would have had to have planted endless false evidence. That is form of lying. If God cannot lie then the Flood never happened. It is just that simple You say that the Flood was real. That is claiming that God lied by planting false evidence.
Unlike you I choose to believe what the bible says. As posted earlier 2 Timothy was only posted as a reference from me to show that the bible teaches that the scriptures are the inspired Words of God along with Romans 14:23 that states "whatsoever is not of faith that we get from the scriptures is sin (compare to Romans 10:17).
Well that is a big part of your problem. If one is honest there is no choice in belief. An honest person follows the evidence. And once again the evidence clearly says that Genesis is wrong.
Let me say it again as you did not get it the first time it seems. You are have simply been proven wrong. 2 Timothy 3:16 states word for word disagreeing with your words, word for word "All scripture is given by inspiration of God"
Oh, I got it. But you never proved me to be wrong in any way. You only stated what you believed, rather than what you know. Once again the evidence clearly tells us that some parts of the Bible cannot be read literally. But the verses in Timothy still work if one realizes that though not literally true the stories still are a tool of education. You are only focusing on one part of those verses and ignoring the part that tells you that they do not have to be literally true. If the Bible was meant to be read literally then why does it not say so? Perhaps because the writers knew of how it refuted itself if one made that error.
Nope, you missed this one too it seems. You asked the question; "How do you know that the Bible is the "word of God?" to which I responded, "Because I know God and His Word." Then I asked you the same question that you asked me asking "How do you know the bible is not the Word of God?" To which you simply avoided answering the same question. I can understand why. You simply have no response to this question. The bible has not made any failures. The only failure is on your side not understanding what the scriptures teach because you do not believe Gods Word and do not understand what the bible says. That would be your fault not Gods.
LOL, no that is not me missing anything. Once again you are simply claiming to know. That is just mere belief; Knowledge is demonstrable. If you can be honest I can show you how we know that the Flood never happened. That is knowledge. You just claiming to "know" i and then failing to demonstrate it only shows that you merely believe what you claim.
How would you show that the entire Bible is the word of God? No circular reasoning. No unjustified claim of "I know". That does not do you any good. You are claiming that your interpretation is correct but you cannot deal with any of the problems with your interpretation. That does not bode well for you knowing anything.
I have studied it more than you have. I know that it is made of different books. I also know when many of them were written. You only have a mere belief as to when they were written. To support your beliefs you need to be able to go outside of the Bible.Wrong it is you that needs to study History. The bible was made up of many different books from the old testament and the new testament that preexisted before the compilation of the bible. You neither know history, God or His Word. This forum is not really a place for you.
Take Care.
Many different sects begin because people like you chose a particular interpretation of the Bible that was different from what others believed. None of them seem to be able to justify their beliefs properly which is why all that they have is mere belief and we have thousands upon thousands of sects of Christianity.