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California student group bans American flag from lobby

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
What? I am supporting the American flag and not the "hate speech" tyrants who use the term hate speech to suffocate free speech. Not sure how you could miss the mark on that one, but so be the undernet.
 

Slide

The 1st Rule.
What? I am supporting the American flag and not the "hate speech" tyrants who use the term hate speech to suffocate free speech. Not sure how you could miss the mark on that one, but so be the undernet.

Sorry if I misunderstood you. I thought you were being sarcastic. My fault.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
So you're going to whine about me calling myself an American, then say you're not offended? I'm over it. This thread has gotten way off track anyways.
You are an american. I never complained about that.

I am just pointing out that the US flag is an american flag. To which you and Saint went bazingas.
 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
No problem... I have my head full of things from long ago, but forget many never lived then.
 

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You are an american. I never complained about that.

I am just pointing out that the US flag is an american flag. To which you and Saint went bazingas.

You said that we could do with less nationalism in your initial post on page 3, and you split hairs over the term "American," saying that we had no right to say that the United States of America is America. You confused the issue between continents and countries, distracting from the initial issue of this thread which was the freedom of speech and disrespect it was served by the banning of the American flag at UC Irvine. I'd say we're about two pages past that issue at this point, so I'll do what I should have done in the first place, which is to stick with my final statement:

"That's nice."
 

Me Myself

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You said that we could do with less nationalism in your initial post on page 3, and you split hairs over the term "American," saying that we had no right to say that the United States of America is America.
I never say you had no right to say it o.0 . I said it was wrong, but freedom of speech being important is one of the things I like about US that I dont about Ecuador. We are more limited here on that regard since new president. Which incidentally... is pushing us to become nationalistic...


You confused the issue between continents and countries

I am perfectly clear on the matter actually. America is a continent just like Africa. Colombian and American are mutually inclusive just like Nigerian and African. If this confuses you thats another thing altogether.


distracting from the initial issue of this thread which was the freedom of speech and disrespect it was served by the banning of the American flag at UC Irvine.

Disrespect would ve been to have it there with something painted above it or something. To have it out is no disrespect, it´s a choice. A choice to upheld values that are great of your country in favor of the values that are ugly.

I'd say we're about two pages past that issue at this point, so I'll do what I should have done in the first place, which is to stick with my final statement:

"That's nice."

Good for you :)
 

illykitty

RF's pet cat

Actually on the article you linked, if you read carefully, it says "The Americas, or America, also known as the New World, are the combined continental landmasses of North America and South America, in the Western Hemisphere."

If you click on the word continental, it brings you to the Wiki article about continents here. The issue stems from there not being a consistency on the word continent. If you go to "number of continents" there's several ways to separate them. Not everyone uses the same names and numbers. I remember at school I was taught about Eurasia and Oceania (Australia plus some islands). The US uses 7 (btw, there's no such thing as Central America as a continent, it's part of North America) and 6 continents with combined Americas is used by Spanish speaking countries and some of Europe. According to Wiki, it was also common for the US to refer to the whole of the Americas as one continent until WWII. Interesting.

So in the end, you're both right, it depends on how you learned to separate the landmasses... Which is all a human invention anyway.
 

Wirey

Fartist
IRVINE, Calif. — The student government at University of California, Irvine has voted to ban display of the American flag — or any flag — from its lobby.

So, immature children who's Mommy and Daddy pay for everything did something wicked to show how smart they are. This is news?
 

Me Myself

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Actually on the article you linked, if you read carefully, it says "The Americas, or America, also known as the New World, are the combined continental landmasses of North America and South America, in the Western Hemisphere."

If you click on the word continental, it brings you to the Wiki article about continents here. The issue stems from there not being a consistency on the word continent. If you go to "number of continents" there's several ways to separate them. Not everyone uses the same names and numbers. I remember at school I was taught about Eurasia and Oceania (Australia plus some islands). The US uses 7 (btw, there's no such thing as Central America as a continent, it's part of North America) and 6 continents with combined Americas is used by Spanish speaking countries and some of Europe. According to Wiki, it was also common for the US to refer to the whole of the Americas as one continent until WWII. Interesting.

So in the end, you're both right, it depends on how you learned to separate the landmasses... Which is all a human invention anyway.

I know, that´s why I am saying "american" can describe anyone native to any country of America.
 

Midnight Rain

Well-Known Member
is kind of not - hence why it's called 'Central America', not 'North America'.
It was a tangent so I wasn't going to go into detail but central America is a subsection of North America. There are only Two continents in the "Americas" Being North America and South America. What is commonly referred to as Central America or Latin America is part of the larger continent of North America with Mexico being the the farthest North and Panama being the farthest south being connected to columbia. It is, however, NOT its own independent continent.

Central America Map - Map of Central America Countries, Landforms, Rivers, and Information Pages - Worldatlas.com
 
The UK spend the past three centuries traveling round the world committing genocide, enslaving people and rewarding itself with large areas of land mass. The final insult was the first world war when a whole generation was slaughtered out of a misplaced sense of national pride. When ever I see a union flag flying, my gut response is to think whether the person flying it is a member of the BNP/fascist.

That is a deeply insulting piece of horse****. Why don't you take a permanent vacation to Cuba or North Korea?
 
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Why is it always Americans who are told to apologize for being American (especially by other Americans)? I am an American by birth and choice. I appreciate my freedoms. I am responsible with my freedoms. I value personal liberty and the rights and responsibilities of the individual.

Therefore, what you say is not true of all Americans, even if I'm the only exception (which I am not).
Because only Americans can apologise for being American? If I were Ecuadoran, I could apologise for that but I'm not. I'm English and can only apologise that you were not born likewise:p!
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
It isn't simply a question of Marxism. The founding fathers would be extremely uncomfortable having the largest defense budget in the world and the fact it is larger than the next 15/16 countries combined. That poses a direct threat to individual liberty within the US, the bill of rights, the principle of limited government, and massively expands the scope of executive power of the president to wage war. The US flag has become symbolic of the right of the US to wage war in any part of the world out of a belief of American Exceptionalism. Any liberal or libertarian worth their salt will recognize "might does not make right". I don't think they'd ban the flag though.
Who is praising the government? I hate the government as it is, for the most part. But I love America.
 
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