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Can a gay person be a "good" Christian?

Can a gay person be a "good" Christian?

  • Yes

    Votes: 38 92.7%
  • No

    Votes: 3 7.3%

  • Total voters
    41

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
That is less than clear. The text makes it appear that it might be due to their desires to force themselves on unwilling subjects, or even due to their disrespect of guest privileges.

Also, it is difficult to understand how an episode which has Lot offering his own daughters to the neighbors in order to dissuade them, and those same daughers preferring to rape him instead of seeking potential mates among other people could be taken seriously as a piece on sexual ethics.
Lot offering his daughters shows us how sinful sex between two men is.
 

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
The only time it is addressed in the Jewish scriptures is Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13, which a) only involves anal sex between males and b) is for many reasons an unusual prohibition, because the text was edited in 20:13 to address both the insertive and passive partners The passive partner is ignored in 18:22 and most serious scholars I have read believe the inclusion of passive partners reflects later editing by a redactor. The text is also unusual because it uses an idiomatic expression to describe the particular act that does not appear anywhere else in Hebrew scriptures. Based on tradition, however, it absolutely prohibits consensual anal sex between two males.

The Christian scriptures contain at least one clear negative reference to homosexuality in the Romans epistle, although it refers to homosexuality as a punishment for idolatry. The other references appear in Corinthians and Timothy, and use terms that may or may not refer to homosexual activity involving males. There is no clear reference to lesbian sex in either set of scriptures; the prohibition is rabbinic in Orthodox Judaism and by tradition in the Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant Christian traditions.
Be reasonable, for you know a woman's body is made for a man. You sound as if you are wanting so much for it to be okay to be a lesbian, but it is not okay, according to God.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
God made a man for a woman and woman for man. The male body is made for a woman, and the female body Is made for a man.

Taking as a premise that God made men and women somehow, it must follow that he made all varieties of LGBT as well. Which, by necessity, means that it is just foolish to speak of them as "sinful" in any way.

The Bible is clear on what it teaches.

Let's us hope you are simply mistaken here, given how horrendous much of what it teaches is. As an alternative, we might agree that Christianity can't in good faith restrict itself to what the Bible teaches; that works too, better even.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Lot offering his daughters shows us how sinful sex between two men is.
Lot offering his daughters shows us how righteous Lot was in showing hospitality to his visitors. Once again: It's Not. About. The. Sex.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
God made a man for a woman and woman for man. The male body is made for a woman, and the female body Is made for a man.

The Bible is clear on what it teaches.
Yes, the male and female bodies compliment each other. But homosexual love is also natural and healthy, for those who have that orientation. In this case (as in so many other cases) science trumps the bible. The bible may be clear on what it teaches (such as the world being created 6000 years ago in 6 days), but what it teaches is not necessarily congruent with reality.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Be reasonable, for you know a woman's body is made for a man. You sound as if you are wanting so much for it to be okay to be a lesbian, but it is not okay, according to God.
It is OK, because that's how God made them. You are sounding as if you are wanting so much for it to not be OK to be lesbian, but it is OK according to God. The bible is completely silent on the matter.
 

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
Taking as a premise that God made men and women somehow, it must follow that he made all varieties of LGBT as well. Which, by necessity, means that it is just foolish to speak of them as "sinful" in any way.
God made a man's body to be for a woman, and a woman's body to be for a man; however, the sin we do with our bodies is not from God.

Let's us hope you are simply mistaken here, given how horrendous much of what it teaches is. As an alternative, we might agree that Christianity can't in good faith restrict itself to what the Bible teaches; that works too, better even.
The Bible is clear on what it teaches, and if you do not obey what the New Testament says, which means New Covenant, then you are not in the New Covenant. In a Covenant, there is a condition and an agreement that what is stated for the Covenant must be followed.
 

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
Lot offering his daughters shows us how righteous Lot was in showing hospitality to his visitors. Once again: It's Not. About. The. Sex.
It is beyond ignorant to think that we have to, out of hospitality, give our daughters for men of the city to have sex.
 

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
Yes, the male and female bodies compliment each other. But homosexual love is also natural and healthy, for those who have that orientation. In this case (as in so many other cases) science trumps the bible. The bible may be clear on what it teaches (such as the world being created 6000 years ago in 6 days), but what it teaches is not necessarily congruent with reality.
Just listen to yourself. Do you have sex with everyone that you love? No, of course not, for you do not have sex with you parents, and your children, and your friends, and your neighbors. We do NOT have sex with people just because we love them.
 

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
It is OK, because that's how God made them. You are sounding as if you are wanting so much for it to not be OK to be lesbian, but it is OK according to God. The bible is completely silent on the matter.
You are speaking untruths.
 

gsa

Well-Known Member
Be reasonable, for you know a woman's body is made for a man. You sound as if you are wanting so much for it to be okay to be a lesbian, but it is not okay, according to God.

A woman's body isn't "made" for anything. And it is OK to be a lesbian, just as it is OK to be a gay male. And while the bible says some horrific things about gay men, it says nothing about lesbians. End of story.
 

gsa

Well-Known Member
It is beyond ignorant to think that we have to, out of hospitality, give our daughters for men of the city to have sex.

I know, it demonstrates how sickening the people who wrote that story were.
 
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