outhouse
Atheistically
Its only faith.
Its only proselytizing to repeat yourself in regards to science :slap:
You have nothing but faith.
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Can a literal Genesis creation story really hold up?
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Its only faith.
Its only proselytizing to repeat yourself in regards to science :slap:
You have nothing but faith.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
And you have nothing.
outhouse
Atheistically
Nothing but most educated scientist that show the origins of man did not happen as written :slap:
Nothing but every credile historian.
I have reality behind my opinion.
outhouse
Atheistically
More facts for you. No faith required.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgHd6HKtvE&list=PL6299F3195349CCDA&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgHd6HKtvE&list=PL6299F3195349CCDA&index=2
Thief
Rogue Theologian
outhouse
Atheistically
This is viewed a truth for most of the educated world, theist included, and contains substantiated facts to back their position.
You don't have to like the truth, or be part of the majority.
IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution
We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:
•In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
•Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
•Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
•Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin.
You don't have to like the truth, or be part of the majority.
IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution
We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:
•In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
•Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
•Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
•Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin.
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Heavens and Earth created first, Gen 1.1
The sun and stars are made visible, they are given for signs and seasons etc. This does not imply they were not there. The atmosphere clears.
As Cain is sent out after killing his brother and builds a city with his woman, clearly they are not the first people. Thus the literal idea of Adam is a man on a particular land, not the first man on earth, that came about through evolution as modern science tells us, and, is in line with Scripture when understood.
You should read Gerald Schroeder and "God according to God" or/and "The Science of God". You can find him no the net in shorthand, it explains a lot of Genesis. This is my take: Everything is the Conscious Nature of God. What IS has been, "there is nothing new under the sun"; what we see here is a physical consciousness, which, literally, in a physical sense, does not exist. Now as conscious-thought follows what has been thought or known before, so also will that happen within the Conscious-Logos of God. So what has been will be again. This means that they are, in effect, playing out a script of what-they-are. This is why they have such writings as Adam and Chavvah. This time though, on planet earth, it was two people on a land, not the first ones. The 'true' Adam is everything, all life, that is why (within the Consciousness) he brought all the animals to him to see what he would call them. So it has to be seen in a deeper level firstly, as this is where it comes from and where it points to. But the surface text will be in line with Man on earth. We must remember that there will no doubt be many ideas there, which add up to the finished article, for at one time they would not have had the ability to write it down. Also, the garden which needed to be "tilled" by the man, could also be seen as "enslaved". Thus the physical creation did not exist until there was an observer. There is no other way that Gen 2 can be seen. It is therefore in line with Quantum Physics, as indeed it should be if it is Fractal.
outhouse
Atheistically
I dont see it like that.
It can be viewed as every credible historian views it. Mythology influenced by Mesopotamian mythology.
Your perverting the original text to meet your personal needs. :yes:
WE factually know nothing like this happened
They were factually visible billions of year ago.
What I want to know, is how you think Israelites who only existed for the last 3200 years would have any clue of our natural origns billions of years ago?
These same people did not have a clue about their own origins let alone the worlds.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Someone apparently had a conversation with...God.
outhouse
Atheistically
This is viewed a truth for most of the educated world, theist included, and contains substantiated facts to back their position.
You don't have to like the truth, or be part of the majority.
IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution
We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:
•In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
•Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
•Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
•Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin.
You don't have to like the truth, or be part of the majority.
IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution
We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:
•In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
•Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
•Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
•Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin.
outhouse
Atheistically
This is viewed a truth for most of the educated world, theist included, and contains substantiated facts to back their position.
You don't have to like the truth, or be part of the majority.
IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution
We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:
•In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
•Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
•Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
•Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin.
You don't have to like the truth, or be part of the majority.
IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution
We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:
•In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
•Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
•Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
•Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin.
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
I did. But my God doesn't seem to fit your view of God.
Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
And unless you would stoop to believing God is just a juiced-up version of yourself, it never will.
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
True.And unless you would stoop to believing God is just a juiced-up version of yourself, it never will.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Go for it!
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
Thief
Rogue Theologian
outhouse
Atheistically
Why do all of your replies have to be an exercise in willful ignorance and fantasy beyond what the mythology even states?
Is it because you always have NO credible evidence to bring to the table?
Is it because you cannot refute a single letter I post? let alone a word or sentence.
Its one thing to pervert science to meet theistic needs wishes and wants, but to pervert the mythology beyond what is written, just ruins these epic pieces you butcher with a dull hatchet. do you turn every thread into a exercise of willful ignorance, fantasy and unsubstantiated faith based opinions the mythology does not even support ?
Is it because you always have NO credible evidence to bring to the table?
Is it because you cannot refute a single letter I post? let alone a word or sentence.
Its one thing to pervert science to meet theistic needs wishes and wants, but to pervert the mythology beyond what is written, just ruins these epic pieces you butcher with a dull hatchet. do you turn every thread into a exercise of willful ignorance, fantasy and unsubstantiated faith based opinions the mythology does not even support ?