Can gays or bisexuals be Christian?

[Muffled]

What you *believe* is irrelevant. The argument takes under consideration the nature of the texts, the intended audience, the cultural understanding of the writers vs. our cultural understanding, and Jesus teaching that love trumps all other laws. It’s a solid argument; you’re simply uncomfortable with it.

I believe God is uncomfortable with it and the supposed cultural understanding is supposed. God is not restricted by culture.

 

[sojourner]

I believe God is uncomfortable with it and the supposed cultural understanding is supposed. God is not restricted by culture.

“God” is restricted, though, by cultural understanding. I believe what makes God uncomfortable is the propensity of some to misinterpret ancient texts in order to assert that part of God’s creation is displeasing to God.

 

[Muffled]

“God” is restricted, though, by cultural understanding. I believe what makes God uncomfortable is the propensity of some to misinterpret ancient texts in order to assert that part of God’s creation is displeasing to God.

I don't believe I have seen any evidence of that although He will tailor His laws to point out a cultural problem.

I believe then that you do not know God personally and simply adhere to your own reasoning.

 

[sojourner]

I don't believe I have seen any evidence of that although He will tailor His laws to point out a cultural problem.

I believe then that you do not know God personally and simply adhere to your own reasoning.

Ok, regardless of what “you believe” you can step off the assumptions about my spiritual disposition. *I* believe you’ve crossed a line in that regard and an apology is in order.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

But as the Blue Letter Bible points out:

Strong's Number G4202 matches the Greek πορνεία (porneia),
which occurs 26 times in 25 verses in the Greek concordance of the KJV
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And in all 26 cases "pornia" is only translated into English as fornication.

Nothing at all about homosexuality, lesbianism, or intercourse with animals etc.

source

for·ni·ca·tion
ˌfôrnəˈkāSH(ə)n/
noun
noun: fornication; plural noun: fornications
sexual intercourse between people not married to each other.

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So as Subduction Zone points out, this little sin can be remedied by a couple of "I dos."

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If someone is bisexual, wouldn’t that, by definition, mean sex with two people? So much for marriage!

I’m sure someone will come up with some justification.

 

[Subduction Zone]

If someone is bisexual, wouldn’t that, by definition, mean sex with two people? So much for marriage!

I’m sure someone will come up with some justification.

No, bisexual means that they are attracted to both sexes. It does not mean sex with two different people at the same time.

But let's talk about marriage. Are you for marriage as portrayed in the Bible?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

If someone is bisexual, wouldn’t that, by definition, mean sex with two people? So much for marriage!

I’m sure someone will come up with some justification.

Ha. Ha. Funny. No.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Ha. Ha. Funny. No.

It doesn’t? Then please, explain it.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I think that's probably why people are against sexual orientation. There is lack of education. Seriously, especially among older folk. My father made me upset because he compared me to "those people" and thought all we want to do is have sex-sex-sex. Shrugs.

Sexual orientation means (def) a person's identity, their sense of self, in relation to their sexual attraction. So, assuming you are straight, your identity in reference to attraction would be with a person of the opposite sex. So your attraction spiritual, physical, and mental attractions binds you with a woman (assuming you're a man) like a marriage.

It's a biological and in some religions spiritual connection one has with someone who has opposite genitalia and chromosomes. While you can control behavior (say sex) you can't control your attraction. This is heterosexuality. It's a medical definition of the term.

For exanple, the prefix Homo- (say homograph) is two words that are spelled the same but not pronounced the same. Fan vs fan for example. (English grammar)

Hetero- opposite and bi-two and tri-three (say trinity ) and so forth.

Ones sexuality referring to their sexual orientation is not black and white as once assumed. It's a gradiant because that's the human make up from hair to skin color. Sexuality is no different.

Heterosexuality (SO of opposite sex)
Homosexuality (SO same sex)
Bisexuality (SO of both sexes)

They do not refer to sex as in ones actions. You can have sex with the same sex as someone whose gay can have with the opposite. So it's not a sex thing.


Sex (not attraction) with two people isn't bisexuality. It has nothing to do with ones attraction. While I don't knoe the technical term, scriptural that would be sexual promisquity. But, no, that's medically incorrect. I get you are playing with words (I hope????) But if not, it's wrong.

Just correcting you on the words. Many people don't understand sexual orientation as a personal thing unless it has something to do with themselves. That's where bias and decrimination comes in.

But, yeah, that's the long explanation. It's an insult to many bisexual people but RF i guess you can slide.

It doesn’t? Then please, explain it.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

I think that's probably why people are against sexual orientation. There is lack of education. Seriously, especially among older folk. My father made me upset because he compared me to "those people" and thought all we want to do is have sex-sex-sex. Shrugs.

Sexual orientation means (def) a person's identity, their sense of self, in relation to their sexual attraction. So, assuming you are straight, your identity in reference to attraction would be with a person of the opposite sex. So your attraction spiritual, physical, and mental attractions binds you with a woman (assuming you're a man) like a marriage.

It's a biological and in some religions spiritual connection one has with someone who has opposite genitalia and chromosomes. While you can control behavior (say sex) you can't control your attraction. This is heterosexuality. It's a medical definition of the term.

For exanple, the prefix Homo- (say homograph) is two words that are spelled the same but not pronounced the same. Fan vs fan for example. (English grammar)

Hetero- opposite and bi-two and tri-three (say trinity ) and so forth.

Ones sexuality referring to their sexual orientation is not black and white as once assumed. It's a gradiant because that's the human make up from hair to skin color. Sexuality is no different.

Heterosexuality (SO of opposite sex)
Homosexuality (SO same sex)
Bisexuality (SO of both sexes)

They do not refer to sex as in ones actions. You can have sex with the same sex as someone whose gay can have with the opposite. So it's not a sex thing.


Sex (not attraction) with two people isn't bisexuality. It has nothing to do with ones attraction. While I don't knoe the technical term, scriptural that would be sexual promisquity. But, no, that's medically incorrect. I get you are playing with words (I hope????) But if not, it's wrong.

Just correcting you on the words. Many people don't understand sexual orientation as a personal thing unless it has something to do with themselves. That's where bias and decrimination comes in.

But, yeah, that's the long explanation. It's an insult to many bisexual people but RF i guess you can slide.

I appreciate your reply.

You know, really, anyone can have inclinations...such as, say, cleptomania. A Christian, though, may have to apply self control.

Take care.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I appreciate your reply.

You know, really, anyone can have inclinations...such as, say, cleptomania. A Christian, though, may have to apply self control.

Take care.

Yeah. Not all of us are angels regardless our attractions Thanks for reading it.

 

[iam1me]

Homosexuality - or at least acting on it - is clearly a sin according to scripture. So I'd re-phrase the question a little: can sinners be Christian? Of course - we all are.

The churches have blown the issue out of proportion, IMO. They make it out like homosexuality is something far worse than the sins they are all guilty of - which is baloney. As with anyone else, the gay/bi-sexual Christian must come to terms with the fact that they have sinful desires, and must learn to overcome them. But this is a personal journey, and a matter between the individual and God.

 

[kiwimac]

Gay Christian 101 - Affirming God's glorious gospel good news for all LGBTs. Click the preceeding link for proof of the affirmative answer I support. I am a Christian, and I love Yeshua so much. If I could take a special pill to not be bisexual, I would. Why would I choose to be demonized by the three Abrahamic faiths.

Yes, yes they can. Next question please.