Can Jewish law be fulfilled?

[smokydot]

No man, I don't see how anyone can keep you from your "happy" time.

Enjoy yourself.

But you pro-m-mised!!! . .Here!!! - - - -> http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/2313620-post400.html

 

[fallingblood]

Those who know me here, including you-- ( thanks for the frubals,btw)-- know I use the text to prove my points and very little or no personal opinion. Any one looking over the thread will plainly see that all you've offered are hasty generelizations sprinkled with personal conjecture doused with broad, vague explanations of the misinterpreted text.

I'm done with you. The majority of the post had nothing to do with the subject, as in it was sidetracking. You aren't supplying any support, you're simply saying this is how it is will not backing it up. I see no reason to continue on then as it would only be a waste.

 

[Tarheeler]

.... If I'm sinful, that's my OWN accord, and God and I are working on it.

I think that is one of the best statements I've came across on this board.

 

[Harmonious]

I think that is one of the best statements I've came across on this board.

Thank you for saying so.

 

[Hawkins]

This is a common Christian belief, that Jesus fulfilled Jewish law. But is that even possible? As in, can anyone fulfill Jewish law?

To me, it simply doesn't sound right.

I think that you might have misunderstood what was said. Jesus's purpose is not here to fulfill the Jewish which is never His mission. He said that His salvation message (the second Covenant) is not to forfeit the Jewish Law but to complete it.

 

[Harmonious]

I think that you might have misunderstood what was said. Jesus's purpose is not here to fulfill the Jewish which is never His mission. He said that His salvation message (the second Covenant) is not to forfeit the Jewish Law but to complete it.

Which cannot be done, either.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I think that is one of the best statements I've came across on this board.

Hey! What's smokydot.... chopped liver?!

 

[smokydot]

You openly lied about what I said

Here? -- http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/2314579-post426.html -- I "lied" here about what you said?

and accused me of being dishonest because of it.

Here? -- http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/2285025-post921.html -- I accused you in the above of being dishonest because of your reckless assertions here?

It's not "whining" to point out that you were fabricating something

Here? -- http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/2314402-post422.html -- I was fabricating with the "formula for what the Bible calls unbelief"?

and attributing it to me.

Here? -- http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/2314607-post428.html -- I attributed to you the unbelief of the formula above?

It is truly puzzling that a person with so little respect for truth claims to have access to it so freely.

The facts of the record speak for themselves here, once more showing your false charges. . .and solving your non-existent "puzzle" regarding the truth of the matters.

The only open lying here is that of your standard MO, openly acknowledged by you (following) to be for the sole purpose of "irritating" me personally.

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/2315778-post1353.html

 

[Tarheeler]

Hey! What's smokydot.... chopped liver?!

Hmm, I really don't know what to say to that one....

 

[james2ko]

I'm done with you. The majority of the post had nothing to do with the subject, as in it was sidetracking. You aren't supplying any support, .

Really?? As I look back at my last post, every point was about some aspect of your OP.

you're simply saying this is how it is will not backing it up

I quoted and explained the meaning of six scriptures just in my last post to support my argument..And you quoted how many?

I see no reason to continue on then as it would only be a waste.

That's too bad...I had so much more to unveil. Perhaps some other time?

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Hmm, I really don't know what to say to that one....

Go with your heart.

 

[smokydot]

That is why I asked you to stop posting. Because all you do is make belittling remarks, that add nothing,

Very interesting. . .that you would single me out for what is so commonly practiced by another. . .birds of a feather, 'n all. . .

or you repeat yourself by copying and pasting your points,

I don't do "copy and paste," I do all my own typing, and re-submit my own posts.

or you link back to them continuously, even though they add nothing at all.

They show proof from the record of my disputed points.

Thus, I see nothing but waste in your posts,

I'm not surprised that it annoys you to see proof from the record for my disputed points.

and it is annoying to see a discussion, that at least was going somewhere, be completely derailed by your insistence of posting waste.
I don't want this thread to end up like my other one on the what day Jesus was crucified. As in, over a thousand responses that have nothing at all to do with the subject at hand, and consists of hundreds of repeated posts that don't even address anything anyway..

Funny that you should mention it! . . because angellous_evangellous openly admits (following link) that he is the cause of derailing your discussion. . .that it's his standard MO of trying to irritate rather than offer sincere and substantive replies to arguments presented. . . http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/2315778-post1353.html .

And you wonder why I "repeat", "link back", "waste," or whatever. . .he's counting on there being no way to expose his game.
He's counting on others to think he is sincere, and is offering a "scholarly" (a claim in which he likes to traffic, and which he abuses a lot in this fashion) evaluation
of the argument, but which in reality is only meant to discredit personally.

His goal is not to argue sincerely, his goal is to ridicule, mock, obfuscate, misrepresent and derail your point. . .so you'll go away and stop annihilating his arguments.
Because he has no substantive argument he can make, from types, to unity of the Bible, to Scripture being the Word of God written, his goal is to enhance his reputation by diminishing yours. . .he and his responses should be re-evaluated in that light.

And you wonder why your thread gets derailed and so off topic, and why it gets so acrimonious instead of going forward on your OP.
But now he has admitted his insincere game of trying to irritate rather than dealing sincerely and substantively with the arguments.

His MO is to discredit personally, rather than refute the argument at hand, to make belittling personal remarks in response to objective factual arguments; to argue with the record, the facts and even the dictionary; or to assert false charges, which are then demonstrated to be false by linking back to the part of the record at issue.

He claims his own "honesty" and "truthfulness" in this acknowledged game, while at the same time he has the unmitigated gall to level charges of dishonesty, untruthfulness, plagiarizing, lying, deceit, etc. . .you name it, at his opponent.

He claims to admit when he is wrong, yet refuses to do so now in seven irrefutable proofs of his wrong arguments, following:

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/2300254-post1077.html for five irrefutable proofs of his wrong arguments, and
http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/2315215-post469.html for two more of his demonstrated false charges.

And don't expect him to acknowledge any of the record presented here. . .sincerity is not in him. . .discrediting personally and "winning" are more important to him than sincerity and the truth of matters.

In sum, I am willing to let the record speak for me. . .the question: is he?

So please, don't waste all of this time again.

Take it up with him. . .his acknowledged and insincere games are your problem. . .but that game is over.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

angellous_evangellous openly admits (following link) that he is the cause of derailing your discussion. . .that it's his standard MO of trying to irritate rather than offer sincere and substantive replies to arguments presented. . . http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/2315778-post1353.html .

You truly will stop at nothing to ruin yourself. I wish your nose grew or something every time you lied so you would have a reliable reminder to stop making yourself look like an incompetent dishonest ***.

I don't know why I'm in awe at your dishonest slander -- but wow, you've impressed me again. :clap:

 

[smokydot]

You truly will stop at nothing to ruin yourself. I wish your nose grew or something every time you lied so you would have a reliable reminder to stop making yourself look like an incompetent dishonest ***.
I don't know why I'm in awe at your dishonest slander -- but wow, you've impressed me again. :clap:

The record is not slander.

Falls a little short of refutation. . .the record speaks for itself. . .and this is just more of the same which was exposed there.

 

[Rakhel]

You truly will stop at nothing to ruin yourself. I wish your nose grew or something every time you lied so you would have a reliable reminder to stop making yourself look like an incompetent dishonest ***.

I don't know why I'm in awe at your dishonest slander -- but wow, you've impressed me again. :clap:

You are, at times, irritating. But I have never seen you attempt to derail a thread with your intelligence. Maybe to re-rail(is that a word?) a thread but never derail one.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Falls a little short of refutation. . .the facts there speak for themselves. . .and this is just more of the same which was exposed there.

That doesn't need refutation. All a person needs to do is look at what I said.

You are the only person who lives in your warped dreamworld, no one else here has access to it because we're not delusionally insane.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

You are, at times, irritating. But I have never seen you attempt to derail a thread with your intelligence. Maybe to re-rail(is that a word?) a thread but never derail one.

Well thanks for the kind words.

You should qualify that with "delightfully irritating" or "your penetrating insight, laced with a charming sense of humor..."

 

[smokydot]

That doesn't need refutation. All a person needs to do is look at what I said.
You are the only person who lives in your warped dreamworld, no one else here has access to it because we're not delusionally insane.

You've got access to the record presented, where the facts speak for themselves, here ---> http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/2315945-post492.html

This is just more of what was exposed there.

Why even bother to acknowledge that I posted it, unless the record supports what I say?

Because if the record shows me a liar, there is no need to comment at all, the record will speak for you.

I'm willing to let the record speak for me. . .are you? . .your acknowledged game is over.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I'm willing to let the record speak for me. . .are you?

You're nuts.

 

[BigRed]

This is a common Christian belief, that Jesus fulfilled Jewish law. But is that even possible? As in, can anyone fulfill Jewish law?

To me, it simply doesn't sound right.

I agree with you.
Examine Abraham's story.
Genesis 17:8 (New American Standard Bible)

8"I will give to you and to your descendants after you, the land of your sojournings, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God."

God promised Abraham the land of Caanan as an inheritance.
Abraham never received the inheritance of the "Promised Land."
Acts 7:5 (New American Standard Bible)


5"But He gave him no inheritance in it, not even a foot of ground, and yet, even when he had no child, He promised that HE WOULD GIVE IT TO HIM AS A POSSESSION, AND TO HIS DESCENDANTS AFTER HIM.

Even the NT acknowledges that Abraham never received what God promised. Not even one foot of ground.

From my point of view the Hebrew Scriptures cannot be fulfilled until Abraham gets his land.

BigRed