Can some Buddhist or other monks read minds

[Samana Johann]

In some Hindu schools, it's believed that enlightened beings gain clairaudience as a natural siddhi (power) as a result of becoming enlightened. But it wouldn't be used or talked about, as the enlightened being also has loss of ego, and there would be no need to talk of it at all. It might be used naturally as a teaching tool, similar to the way good teachers or doctors use keen observation to help someone. Someone else, having observed it, might talk about it.

It's gained by Jhana, concentration. yes. Those Iddhis are not seldom under possible still existing good yogies in India and other parts of SEAsia.

 

[Samana Johann]

People have intuition wired in to their brains, it is not reading minds, it is being observant and forming intuitive thoughts.

"What I can't, others could not/should not be able to"

 

[Samana Johann]

So far in your comments to me, it has been clear one can not read minds.

Not a problem at all. Just keep in mind that not knowing your mind yourself, if someone tells something. A matter of good reflection and sacca. Like alway just well meant advices and householder is free to do as he feels fit.

 

[osgart]

I do not buy into mind reading. Attitude and mood reading is the best anyone can do.

 

[siti]

Can some Buddhist or other monks read minds?

Their own perhaps...but I know what you're thinking

 

[MonkeyFire]

Telepathy - the supposed communication of thoughts or ideas by means other than the known senses.

Just facial recognition is a "telepathy."

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Not a problem at all. Just keep in mind that not knowing your mind yourself, if someone tells something. A matter of good reflection and sacca. Like alway just well meant advices and householder is free to do as he feels fit.

I can agree with all that. You may have read my mind.

Personally I see mind is external from the body, mind may have the potential like the sun and we light up life as we so choose.

Regards Tony

 

[Samana Johann]

I do not buy into mind reading. Attitude and mood reading is the best anyone can

It's about such talent. One should not think that it is much more then knowing, 1st the qualities of ones own mind really and after certain awarness-release one knows steady others mind it wishing so. It would be nonsens to think to test such in manners of "on which town do I think now?".

That is why ordinary people are not able to trace a person with such talent, since they have no idea of their minds quality and react mostly aversive if they feel that their defilements are laied open.

 

[Samana Johann]

Personally I see mind is external from the body, mind may have the potential like the sun and we light up life as we so choose.

That is right householder Tony Bristow-Stagg, nothing more powerful as a trained mind. Seeing that, don't be busy with others and outwardly and focus on taming the own mind.

Ekadhamma Suttas: A Single Thing

 

[The Reverend Bob]

I can agree with all that. You may have read my mind.

Personally I see mind is external from the body, mind may have the potential like the sun and we light up life as we so choose.

Regards Tony

You still can't read minds. You making stuff up to seem all mystical and mysterious

 

[Samana Johann]

Telepathy - the supposed communication of thoughts or ideas by means other than the known senses.

Just facial recognition is a "telepathy."

It's no problem to appear quick and from far and talk on an importand matter, if such is of use, for one having developed mind.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

You still can't read minds. You making stuff up to seem all mystical and mysterious

I do not discount the possibility. Study of birth sperated twins show a powerful bond in mind.

I have now also stopped thinking about and watching many things that I see are not based in Morality, as I see our mind could very well project these thoughts.

I consider advice such as this;

"..If the soul identifies itself with the material world it remains dark, for in the natural world there is corruption, aggression, struggles for existence, greed, darkness, transgression and vice. If the soul remains in this station and moves along these paths it will be the recipient of this darkness; but if it becomes the recipient of the graces of the world of mind, its darkness will be transformed into light, its tyranny into justice, its ignorance into wisdom, its aggression into loving kindness; until it reach the apex...." – Abdu’l-Baha, Divine Philosophy, p. 120.

There are many more thoughts like that.

This is the thought that most change my way of thinking;

"I charge you all that each one of you concentrate all the thoughts of your heart on love and unity. When a thought of war comes, oppose it by a stronger thought of peace. A thought of hatred must be destroyed by a more powerful thought of love. Thoughts of war bring destruction to all harmony, well-being, restfulness and content. Thoughts of love are constructive of brotherhood, peace, friendship, and happiness…" – Abdul'baha Paris Talks, pp. 28-30.

Regards Tony

 

[Samana Johann]

You still can't read minds. You making stuff up to seem all mystical and myster

It's right that it makes no sense to spectulate general about such but wrong to neglegt it, since it is a very importand guidiance, governig principle, to e aware that "bigger brothers watching" what one is doing. One neglegting such runs around like the "kings new clothes" and good turn away from him.

 

[Samana Johann]

This is the thought that most change my way of thinking;

Householder will "love" and possible learn much from the teachings on metta, goodwill, of the Noble Ones (which is not just hypocratical but lived:

mettā: (goodwill, loving-kindness). See also brahma-vihāra; Pāramīs.

• Karaniya Metta Sutta (Discourse on Loving-kindness): Sn 1.8 and Khp 9
• As a protection against harm: Cv 5.6, SN 20.5, AN 4.67
• As a factor leading to liberation: AN 6.13
• Systematic practice of mettā: SN 42.8
• Eleven benefits of mettā: AN 11.16
• Even more fruitful than giving: SN 20.4
• Course of rebirths to be expected from those who cultivate mettā: AN 4.125
• Maintain thoughts of mettā no matter how others address you: MN 21
• No one is dearer to one than oneself: Ud 5.1
• The radiant brightness of mettā: Iti 27
• As a basis for the development of jhāna: AN 8.63
• Practicing mettā as a way to deal with annoying people: AN 5.161
• Metta: The Philosophy and Practice of Universal Love (Buddharakkhita)
• “Head & Heart Together: Bringing Wisdom to the Brahma-viharas” (Ven. Thanissaro)
• The Heart Awakened (Siriwardhana)
• Nothing Higher to Live For (Nyanasobhano)
• The Power of Good Will (Lee)
• Metta Means Goodwill (Ven. Thanissaro)
• The Practice of Loving-kindness (mettā)(Ñanamoli Thera)

Btw., Jhana, concentration, and the skill of reading mind, can be attained by developing metta rightly. Heavens and beyond are open for one practicing metta right.

 

[The Reverend Bob]

It's right that it makes no sense to spectulate general about such but wrong to neglegt it, since it is a very importand guidiance, governig principle, to e aware that "bigger brothers watching" what one is doing. One neglegting such runs around like the "kings new clothes" and good turn away from him.

There is no "Big Other"

 

[Samana Johann]

There is no "Big Other"

As householder Bod likes to think. Nobody else makes one a lost orphan then oneself.

 

[Samana Johann]

Their own perhaps...but I know what you're thinking

Neither would a worldling know a mind of integrity nor a bad. It speculates all together on assuming and preoccupation in ways "the rouge thinks in ways he is".

 

[The Reverend Bob]

As householder Bod likes to think. Nobody else makes one a lost orphan then oneself.

Householder? You call me by my preferred pronouns. I happen to be an ordained minister.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

reading mind, can be attained by developing metta rightly. Heavens and beyond are open for one practicing metta right.

I see we need to consider we are in the Spiritual Matrix when in this world. Thus I see we would not have the spiritual capacity to understand what we are seeing and hearing.

It is like a fetus developing in the womb of its mother. It can have no concept of what is to come, but while developing, protected in that matrix, it can hear and sense some of what is happening in the material world, but has no real concept of it.

It is the same as we develop our spiritual limbs here, we can start to use them but we have no idea of our capacity and what we are developing.

Regards Tony

 

[Samana Johann]

It is the same as we develop our spiritual limbs here, we can start to use them but we have no idea of our capacity and what we are developing.

It's better to stick with the practice and not to play around. Once mind is really developed, there is no danger any more. If starting to use undeveloped in laying around, it bears a lot of dangers. That's why monks are told not giving much into Iddhis once they arise. Downfall arises fast if using holly for worldly matters. Take care!