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Can someone please explain to me why a "drag show" is suddenly the epitome of evil?

Kfox

Well-Known Member
Avoiding the question.

I don't care who did or did not bring it up, I am bringing it up.

Is it ok for a woman wearing pants to read a story to children?
They don't object to women wearing pants because they don't see it as a part of the LBGT+ political agenda, but men wearing dresses are.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
So basically you are asking, if the parents disagree with the state concerning raising their children, should the state be allowed to take away their children and raise them according to the standards of the state.
Well, no. There are a lot of methods of intervention short of doing that.
This was some of the logic behind the “Hitler youth” if I recall correctly.
Every society has both a desire and a responsibility to raise their children as they see fit. So do most parents. The question is what to do when these clash. When does society have the need or the right to "take over" from the parents in this regard? Our society as a whole is becoming increasing tolerant of alternative lifestyles while some parents are becoming increasingly intolerant of them. This will inevitably lead to problems as every society needs to develop and maintain a cohesive set of ideological parameters that everyone can follow.
How about if we allow parents to raise their children as they see fit, then when the children get older, they can decide for themselves which part of their parents training they hold on to, and which parts they reject.
Because parents can so damage their children's psyche that by the time they are "older" it's too late, and they are beyond help or repair. We have children and very young adults now regularly committing mass murder in this country because their minds have become so twisted up by childhood neglect and mind-meddling that they see this as a pathway to glory. We are so busy calling our selfishness "freedom" and using it as an excuse to slander and neglect other people that we are losing our social cohesion. To continue on the path will lead to disaster.
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
Every society has both a desire and a responsibility to raise their children as they see fit. So do most parents. The question is what to do when these clash. When does society have the need or the right to "take over" from the parents in this regard? Our society as a whole is becoming increasing tolerant of alternative lifestyles while some parents are becoming increasingly intolerant of them.
I don’t see the intolerance as increasing, as society changes, there has always been parts of society who objected to such changes.
This will inevitably lead to problems as every society needs to develop and maintain a cohesive set of ideological parameters that everyone can follow.
We have those, they are called “laws”. In this case, the objections are not about laws, but morality.
Because parents can so damage their children's psyche that by the time they are "older" it's too late, and they are beyond help or repair.

I disagree. The older a child gets, the less influence parents have over them, and they get influence from other sources. By the time the child becomes an adult, society has far more influence over them than their parents.
When you look at women's rights, immigrants rights, minority rights, gay rights, etc. all of these rights were accomplished without appealing directly to children. If the parents are wrong, allow the children to find out on their own.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
I am trying to understand where the line is, what exactly the standards are.

She can wear pants, she can wear shorts. Got it. Can she wear a skirt or a dress? Can she wear make up?
IIMO @Rival said it best. If the benefit is reading to children, they can wear normal clothing.

Before anyone says "what's normal clothing",, that would be their clothing they wear daily while not in drag
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
If anyone wanting to read to kids passes a drug test and a criminal background check, I have no big problem with these events. The reason for this is that anyone who is even slightly familiar with the gay drag "community" knows how riddled with drug use this group is. Part of the reason they can be so fricken outrageous is because they are likely high as a kite. Not, the best role models for young kids.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Why so hard to answer?
You don't know what is or isn't ok for a woman to wear?
Do most women wear some makeup?
Do many women wear pants/slacks?
Do many women wear skirts/dresses?
Do they use a puty knife to apply makeup?
Do they purposely dress sexual for a show?
Do they overly act as a woman but aren't women?
Etc etc.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Personally I am on the side of the parents. If the parents object, let them object; if the parents like it, let them support it.

I have not heard of any children being forced to attend these events against their parents will. That is just not happening. These are attended by children of parents who want their children to be there.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
You don't know what is or isn't ok for a woman to wear?
Do most women wear some makeup?
Do many women wear pants/slacks?
Do many women wear skirts/dresses?
Do they use a puty knife to apply makeup?
Do they purposely dress sexual for a show?
Do they overly act as a woman but aren't women?
Etc etc.
But it is not ok for men to do this. It would not be ok for a man to dress in a normal conservative dress with modest make up?
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
When you think drag queens are the same as cowboys, wizards, and clowns..... Yes its a very sad world.
What is the difference? It is just clothes, dress up, costumes.

Personally I am not a big fan of drag shows. Personally I am not a big fan of clowns. And for me, they are very much the same, flamboyant colourful clothing, lots of make up, exaggerated behaviour. This is not a moral condemnation of either, just not my cup of tea.
 
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