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Can you acknowledge that you were wrong and Islam was right on cousin marriages?

Samantha Rinne

Resident Genderfluid Writer/Artist
(the 'you' on the title is in plural)

The Surprising Truth About Cousins and Marriage

Any abnormalities in children from first cousin marriages is as likely to occur as any abnormalities in children who are born to a 40-year-old mother (compared to a 30-year-old.

No, I can't. You know why?

Because first of all, our state allows first cousin marriage. And both my first and second cousin are pretty cute. nly places like Hollywood have a taboo (liberals like to pass themselves off as very free, but the reject what is perfectly fine, like marriage 16 or older (it used to be, marriage age for most of the US was 16, and 18 or 19 was high; now it's been bumped so the minimum age is 18, except under certain circumstances, and can be as high as 21) while pushing for things that are perverse like polygamy, male homosexuality (curiously, I have no problems with female homosexuality), and sodomy).

Second of all, as seen in this article, Islam frequently gets its inspiration, not from Allah, but by plagiarism.
Muhammad's Plagiarism - WikiIslam
To sat that it's Islam who is right about this is wrong. Judaism and Christianity is right about cousin marriage.

Prohibited Marriages
(The short version? Cousins are not on the list for prohibited marriages by Jews)

As for Christianity, it turns out it's slightly complicated.

The Surprising Truth About Cousins and Marriage

Most cousin marriages are Islamic (you get prize for most, even if not first or original), but it says among Christian groups, Catholics have laws against it while Protestant groups have no such taboo.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
now it's been bumped so the minimum age is 18, except under certain circumstances, and can be as high as 21
With parental consent, most states allow marriages at 16. Massachusettes allows it at 12.

No states require 21 with or without parental consent.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
What do American states that ban cousin marriages do when married couples from states where it is legal move there?
Or people from other countries do so..?
The other alternative, is for cousins who go to other states to marry, what happens if they return?
Are not these bans encroaching on to peoples freedom a step to far?
 

ecco

Veteran Member
What do American states that ban cousin marriages do when married couples from states where it is legal move there?
Or people from other countries do so..?
The other alternative, is for cousins who go to other states to marry, what happens if they return?
A marriage performed in any state is recognized in all states.

As far as I know, this is also true for marriages performed in any country.


Are not these bans encroaching on to peoples freedom a step to far?


We don't allow a 14 year old to quit school, why should we allow one to get married (without the permission of the parents)?
 

SESMeT

Member
(the 'you' on the title is in plural)

The Surprising Truth About Cousins and Marriage

Any abnormalities in children from first cousin marriages is as likely to occur as any abnormalities in children who are born to a 40-year-old mother (compared to a 30-year-old.

So, correct me if I am wrong, but, are you saying that, for that reason, since we don't think that 40-year old mothers shouldn't have children that it makes no more sense to say that a mother shouldn't be a mother via sexual congress with their first cousin?
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
This is common knowledge. Women are generally aware that having kids in their 20s is optimal. It doesn't make Islam anymore right here about anything. It means cousins should stop marrying each other.

I wonder if you are here to do anything other than tell us how Islam is right about X Y and Z.

No you are wrong by saying common knowledge. I understand the question is an apologetic for Islam, but this kind of dismissal is beyond your standard.

The question obviously is referring to the time it was written. If you think its common knowledge you are absolutely wrong. Marriage amongst cousins happen even now. Lets say in Asian countries like India and the whole region, this is common practice.

Can you cite some worldwide study that shows 1400 years ago this is common knowledge?

(I am not saying anything miraculous whatsoever. I am only questioning your reasoning)
 

Tambourine

Well-Known Member
Going by this map from Wikipedia, first cousin marriage is legal in most of Europe and South America, as well as Australia and Canada:
1920px-CousinMarriageWorld.svg.png
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
No you are wrong by saying common knowledge. I understand the question is an apologetic for Islam, but this kind of dismissal is beyond your standard.

The question obviously is referring to the time it was written. If you think its common knowledge you are absolutely wrong. Marriage amongst cousins happen even now. Lets say in Asian countries like India and the whole region, this is common practice.

Can you cite some worldwide study that shows 1400 years ago this is common knowledge?

(I am not saying anything miraculous whatsoever. I am only questioning your reasoning)
I mean nowadays, women know that having kids in their mid 30s can lead to problems.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
I mean nowadays, women know that having kids in their mid 30s can lead to problems.

Having kids at any age can lead to problems...
Grave yards are full of young mothers.
Giving birth is safer than it once was, but is far from risk free.
Still births and genetic disorders are commonplace at any age
Cousin marriage and age, accounts for only a tiny proportion of these problems
 

Leroyjenkins

New Member
To be honest I can only see an extra chromosome or an extra couple of toes/fingers as an advantage. Cant see the big deal.
 
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