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Can you give me a solid proof

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
But is faith in God objectiv?

Isn't faith in God a way of life to become a better human being on a personal level? The proof is in how people change to the better through their practice
Well if the claims includes interactions with the objective, the tactile, than any proof must be objective as well.

I grant you that God does however exist in people's minds and imagination. I can give you that much, but it's always humans doing things on behalf of their imaginations, nothing more nothing less.

God alone is simply not out here in the real living world hence the proof it's non existant in that regard.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Well if the claims includes interactions with the objective, the tactile, than any proof must be objective as well.

I grant you that God does however exist in people's minds and imagination. I can give you that much, but it's always humans doing things on behalf of their imaginations, nothing more nothing less.

God alone is simply not out here in the real living world hence the proof it's non existant in that regard.
But you can not prove your own words, that God is not out there ;)
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Can you give me a solid proof that God does not exist?
Your proof must be possible to repeat multiple times, and evidence for God non existence must be so solid that it cant be disproven by believers in God.

I do not ask for woowoo answer, only serious evidence of non existence will be accepted as proof.

And you must be able to show your proof in more than one way.
Can you give me a solid proof that Thor does not exist?
Your proof must be possible to repeat multiple times, and evidence for God non existence must be so solid that it cant be disproven by believers in God.

I do not ask for woowoo answer, only serious evidence of non existence will be accepted as proof.

And you must be able to show your proof in more than one way.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
God isn't out there. The proof speaks for itself.
I have not seen any of your "proof" because what you say is.
"Your own belief is that God is not out there" because you have not yet found the proof you think would verify your own belief :)

Just as believers in God has a deep belief that God is out there too
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Can you give me a solid proof that Thor does not exist?
Your proof must be possible to repeat multiple times, and evidence for God non existence must be so solid that it cant be disproven by believers in God.

I do not ask for woowoo answer, only serious evidence of non existence will be accepted as proof.

And you must be able to show your proof in more than one way.
As i stated in earler answers, i have a personal belief in God, so a belief is not based on proof, it is a belief and will always be a belief.

You did not answer the OP by the way
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Can you give me a solid proof that God does not exist?
Your proof must be possible to repeat multiple times, and evidence for God non existence must be so solid that it cant be disproven by believers in God.

I do not ask for woowoo answer, only serious evidence of non existence will be accepted as proof.

And you must be able to show your proof in more than one way.
This is a stupid question.

May I refer you to Russell's Teapot
 

vulcanlogician

Well-Known Member
It doesn't matter what you believe. Your thread is based upon a false premise. Just because others won't play your rather silly game does not support you. In fact if you cannot support your belief then it appears to be no more correct than a belief in the Invisible Pink Unicorn. How do you plan to differentiate your God from that being?

Let's make a deal. We both accept the existence of the Invisible Pink Unicorn as the maker of the universe.

Do you see the point being made here, Seeker?

Can you disprove Zone's Invisible Pink Unicorn? I sure can't. You know what else I can't disprove? The Furry Green Gremlin who created the universe. Or the Giant Talking Wooly Mammoth who vanishes when you look in his direction. These are magical beings with powers to evade our senses. Therefore, we can't disprove any of them.

And yet, if we are required to prove their nonexistence to justify disbelief, we are required to believe in all of them until we do so. That sounds absurd, doesn't it?

Your argument may work against some gnostic atheist who says they know for a fact that God does not exist. They are making a positive statement, and they need to put forth evidence if they want to convince others.

But your argument doesn't work against most atheists, agnostics, and people who simply aren't convinced by the evidence provided.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
How can contradictory disprove that different Gods give different teaching? Maybe the different Gods are at different level of wisdom, and dont see truth exactly the same. So their teaching is different.

Not a proof
You misunderstood. It is not one god belief contradicting another. It is about a god belief contradicting itself. E.g. the moment you say that a god is omnipotent, you have contradicted yourself not only another believer.
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
Can you give me a solid proof that God does not exist?
Your proof must be possible to repeat multiple times, and evidence for God non existence must be so solid that it cant be disproven by believers in God.

I do not ask for woowoo answer, only serious evidence of non existence will be accepted as proof.

And you must be able to show your proof in more than one way.

That's generally not how these things work. It can be virtually impossible to prove a negative. Instead we seek evidence to support the notion that some claimed thing does in fact exist. I can claim that magical undetectable pixies exist in reality and will ultimately determine the fate of your immortal soul, but the onus is not on you to provide evidence that my claims are false. It's up to me to provide evidence that my claims are true.

That's the rational way to determine if a claim warrants your belief. Because if you choose to believe something does exist just because there isn't indisputable proof that it does not exist then you'd be forced to believe in an endless number of fantastical claims for which there is no solid proof that they aren't real. Even though there is zero verifiable evidence that my magical pixies do exist, the fact that you can't provide indisputable proof that they don't exist means that you'd have to believe in magical pixies that determine the fate of your immortal soul.
 

Suave

Simulated character
Can you give me a solid proof that God does not exist?
Your proof must be possible to repeat multiple times, and evidence for God non existence must be so solid that it cant be disproven by believers in God.

I do not ask for woowoo answer, only serious evidence of non existence will be accepted as proof.

And you must be able to show your proof in more than one way.
The God hypothesis is neither verifiable nor falsifiable. Thus, God's actual existence can neither be proven nor disproven
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
No, because you cannot prove that something does not exist .. eg Big Foot, Loch Ness Monster, the Yeti
I can assert many things, like Russell did with his tea pot, you cannot disprove them.
No i can not disprove you, as you can not disprove my pe4sonal belief in a God (its a belief)
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Can you give me a solid proof that God does not exist?
Of course Gods that are purely conceptual / imaginary exist in their billions ─ at least one for every person who's ever heard of a god.

But as for real gods, ones with objective existence, you'll first have to tell me what real thing you intend to denote when you say "God" such that if I find a real candidate I'll be able to determine whether it's God or not.
 
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