Can you give me a solid proof

[ChristineM]

Can you give me a solid proof that God does not exist?
Your proof must be possible to repeat multiple times, and evidence for God non existence must be so solid that it cant be disproven by believers in God.

I do not ask for woowoo answer, only serious evidence of non existence will be accepted as proof.

And you must be able to show your proof in more than one way.

Proof???

Surely it is you making the claim that your god exists, i simply disbelieve your claim on the basis of lack of evidence.

However if multiple lines of evidence will surface how about childhood leukemia, the twin towers, the futility of prayer, the starving children or the fact that you exist... I could go on.

These are evidences that some claimed aspect's of gods are wrong. So if say the caring god does not care and the listening god does not listen and the loving god does not love and the omnipotent god is not omnipotent then i guess they are not gods at all but entities made up in the minds of stone, bronze and iron age people to help explain their bewilderment of the working of nature and also to band and control people to do the will of their betters, i.e. the ones who thought up the idea in the first place.

In my view

 

[Spirit of Light]

Proof???

Surely it is you making the claim that your god exists, i simply disbelieve your claim on the basis of lack of evidence.

However if multiple lines of evidence will surface how about childhood leukemia, the twin towers, the futility of prayer, the starving children or the fact that you exist... I could go on.

These are evidences that some claimed aspect's of gods are wrong. So if say the caring god does not care and the listening god does not listen and the loving god does not love and the omnipotent god is not omnipotent then i guess they are not gods at all but entities made up in the minds of stone, bronze and iron age people to help explain their bewilderment of the working of nature and also to band and control people to do the will of their betters, i.e. the ones who thought up the idea in the first place.

In my view

Claim? Actually i only say my belief

 

[Tiberius]

Can you give me a solid proof that God does not exist?
Your proof must be possible to repeat multiple times, and evidence for God non existence must be so solid that it cant be disproven by believers in God.

I do not ask for woowoo answer, only serious evidence of non existence will be accepted as proof.

And you must be able to show your proof in more than one way.

Nope.

And the reason why is simple. You can't prove a negative.

Can you prove there is no elephant sitting on top of your head right now? Now you can't. You might say that an elephant on your head would squash you. "Ah," I say, "but this elephant is completely weightless." So then you say you can't see the elephant. "That's because the elephant is completely invisible," I tell you. And you point out that you can't touch the elephant, nor can you hear it, or smell it. "That's because it's completely intangible," I explain. "It also is completely silent, and emits no odor whatsoever." In fact, for any attempt you make to show the elephant doesn't exist, I can explain why you are wrong.

And it's the same thing with God. There is no proof that God doesn't exist for the same reason that there is no proof that this elephant on your head doesn't exist. It's unfalsifiable. But that doesn't mean it is real. After all, sooner or later, your going to conclude that even if the elephant does exist, it doesn't actually make any difference. And it's the same with God.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Nope.

And the reason why is simple. You can't prove a negative.

Can you prove there is no elephant sitting on top of your head right now? Now you can't. You might say that an elephant on your head would squash you. "Ah," I say, "but this elephant is completely weightless." So then you say you can't see the elephant. "That's because the elephant is completely invisible," I tell you. And you point out that you can't touch the elephant, nor can you hear it, or smell it. "That's because it's completely intangible," I explain. "It also is completely silent, and emits no odor whatsoever." In fact, for any attempt you make to show the elephant doesn't exist, I can explain why you are wrong.

And it's the same thing with God. There is no proof that God doesn't exist for the same reason that there is no proof that this elephant on your head doesn't exist. It's unfalsifiable. But that doesn't mean it is real. After all, sooner or later, your going to conclude that even if the elephant does exist, it doesn't actually make any difference. And it's the same with God.

I dont need to prove to other a personal belief in God

 

[Twilight Hue]

I have not seen any of your "proof" because what you say is.
"Your own belief is that God is not out there" because you have not yet found the proof you think would verify your own belief

Just as believers in God has a deep belief that God is out there too

You can't produce your own proof of God aside from proving its something that is imagined.

I certainly can provide proof there isn't a God.

Just by pointing out the cronic inability for people to prove any God, hence my proof is already well established beyond any doubt that there is certainly no God out there, aside from the imaginary one's that live inside people's heads.

 

[muhammad_isa]

I certainly can provide proof there isn't a God.

Just by pointing out the cronic inability for people to prove any God, hence my proof is already well established beyond any doubt that there is certainly no God out there..

Your "proof" relies on the absence of data..
..that's not acceptable to any rational thinking person.

 

[Spirit of Light]

You can't produce your own proof of God aside from proving its something that is imagined.

I certainly can provide proof there isn't a God.

Just by pointing out the cronic inability for people to prove any God, hence my proof is already well established beyond any doubt that there is certainly no God out there, aside from the imaginary one's that live inside people's heads.

You are free to believe what suit you no human see God the same way

 

[Twilight Hue]

Your "proof" relies on the absence of data..
..that's not acceptable to any rational thinking person.

Why not? It's the absolute truth of the matter.

People simply cannot produce any God that they claim to know. That rationalization tells me it's only livng and alive in one's realm of imagination.

It dosent exist anywhere else.

 

[Twilight Hue]

You are free to believe what suit you no human see God the same way

It's not a belief. It's a solid fact.

There are factually no gods whatsoever living outside of people's heads.

 

[Spirit of Light]

It's not a belief. It's a solid fact.

There are factually no gods whatsoever living outside of people's heads.

Prove it...you cant

 

[Twilight Hue]

Prove it...you cant

I already did prove it.

By the sheer fact that you can't.

That puts all the proof I will ever need in my court.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I already did prove it.

By the sheer fact that you can't.

That puts all the proof I will ever need in my court.

Oh the difference is, i have nothing to prove

 

[Heyo]

No, because you cannot prove that something does not exist .. eg Big Foot, Loch Ness Monster, the Yeti
I can assert many things, like Russell did with his tea pot, you cannot disprove them.

Nope.

And the reason why is simple. You can't prove a negative.

I don't know where this nonsense came from but I can prove a negative.
Have a look at the classical proof of square root of two not being a rational number.
Negative proven.

 

[Link]

The following are arguments against God:


1. The world has too much suffering for a benevolent Creator to exist

2. God by definition can't be virtuous since he can't be tested by courage or acquire value rather he is eternal and can't chose his essence.

3. God would be obvious to everyone and would perform miracles in the open if he existed.

These are three philosophical arguments I'm aware of.

I don't believe them myself but they are formidable.

 

[Tiberius]

I dont need to prove to other a personal belief in God

Then on what basis do you demand others prove to you that there is no God?

 

[Tiberius]

I don't know where this nonsense came from but I can prove a negative.
Have a look at the classical proof of square root of two not being a rational number.
Negative proven.

You prove that by showing what the square root of two IS, not what it ISN'T. You prove that it is in the group of irrational numbers, you don't prove that it is absent from the group of rational numbers.

If you think you can prove that something doesn't exist, please prove that the elephant on your head doesn't exist.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Then on what basis do you demand others prove to you that there is no God?

I dont demand at all.

But so far non of the answers has given proof of that God does not exist

I did not expect a proof either.
Some even tried to turn it bsck at the believers to say, the proof lies at the believers. But that is not what the OP ask.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

Can you give me a solid proof that God does not exist?

Do you need one? What value would such a proof be? It would be of no value to either those believing in deities, nor to those who don't.

Believers aren't moved by evidence. They didn't become believers because of evidence, and evidence won't move them from that position.

I've offered two proofs that the deity of the Christian Bible doesn't exist, and as best I can tell, neither had any effect on any believer. None ever commented on the proofs, much less tried to rebut them. As is commonly said, you can't make a man understand what he has a stake in not understanding.

And unbelievers don't need disproof to be unbelievers. The failure of theists to make a compelling case for deities is sufficient.

So what value would a disproof of all gods be if there were one? Once again, the skeptic doesn't need it, and the faith-based believer wouldn't be moved by it.

i have a personal belief in God, so a belief is not based on proof, it is a belief and will always be a belief.

Then what use would a disproof be to you? As I said, if you didn't come to your present position using evidence, evidence won't move you from it, either.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Do you need one? What value would such a proof be? It would be of no value to either those believing in deities, nor to those who don't.

Believers aren't moved by evidence. They didn't become believers because of evidence, and evidence won't move them from that position.

I've offered two proofs that the deity of the Christian Bible doesn't exist, and as best I can tell, neither had any effect on any believer. None ever commented on the proofs, much less tried to rebut them. As is commonly said, you can't make a man understand what he has a stake in not understanding.

And unbelievers don't need disproof to be unbelievers. The failure of theists to make a compelling case for deities is sufficient.

So what value would a disproof of all gods be if there were one? Once again, the skeptic doesn't need it, and the faith-based believer wouldn't be moved by it.

My reason for the OP is to say, we csn not give proof either ways. Because a believer holds a belief and faith in God. That is enough for a believer to continue the path of the teaching.

It is only non believers who ask for proof of God

 

[Subduction Zone]

My reason for the OP is to say, we csn not give proof either ways. Because a believer holds a belief and faith in God. That is enough for a believer to continue the path of the teaching.

It is only non believers who ask for proof of God

Nonbelievers ask for evidence. They do not ask for proof. Please learn the difference. And they do so because theists quite often insist that their god is real and that their reasoning is rational. Rational beliefs require evidence.

Now if a theist admits that their beliefs are irrational atheists will commonly accept that, though they may question the person as to why he or she has an irrational belief.

One last point, though the general idea of god can't be refuted, specific versions can be refuted. If a person claims that god made a flat earth then the endless evidence for a globe refutes that version of God.