Can you give me an observable evidence that Evolution is true?

[Guy Threepwood]

I don't get this argument. If the tuning had been different then perhaps life would have developed in a different form, or maybe not at all. But so what? The universe doesn't care either way.

alter the constants infinitesimally- and the universe wouldn't even have space/time- far less sentient life- a consciousness to literally care about itself with!

 

[Rick O'Shez]

alter the constants infinitesimally- and the universe wouldn't even have space/time- far less sentient life- a consciousness to literally care about itself with!

I'm not sure the constants are that sensitive, but the general point is true.

 

[Guy Threepwood]

You will obviously chose to continue to believe in ignorance instead of evaluating data.

'insults are the most graceless form of conceding defeat' it is said

 

[Guy Threepwood]

I'm not sure the constants are that sensitive, but the general point is true.

Difficult to nail down all the exact tolerances obviously, but Hawking considers the improbability practically infinite, hence the number of random multiverses that would be needed to fluke this one.

 

[Guy Threepwood]

So did the devil bury all those dinosaur bones just to confuse us?

I think they were more of a gift from God!

 

[Midnight Rain]

I think they were more of a gift from God!

Kinda like a cop giving you drugs so he can arrest you.

 

[Sapiens]

Newton's laws were universally accepted as immutable without question, evolution is not even a majority belief yet, younger and less well established.
'without question' is not a very scientific approach is it?

All evolution is descent with modification, nothing more than a change in gene frequency over time ... that has occurred, and is occurring, without question.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

I think they were more of a gift from God!

It seems like a strange gift because it's further evidence of evolution!

 

[Guy Threepwood]

It seems like a strange gift because it's further evidence of evolution!

or evidence of intelligent design depending on how you look at it

 

[viole]

no, just yet one more mind boggling coincidence without which we wouldn't be here pondering existence- I'm sure of it!

No matters what the current state of affairs is, it is a cohincidence. Your own existence, or the existence of anything else, including ugly things like the Ebola virus, is a huge cohincidence. The only way to avoid cohincidences is to not have anything existing at all.

Finding that mind boggling, a posteriori, is itself mind boggling.

Ciao

- viole

 

[Sapiens]

who knows, perhaps by complete fluke- an asteroid was exactly aimed, weighted and timed to cleanly remove the physically dominant species that would otherwise rule indefinitely- leaving mankind with millions of years of the convenient resources we would need to explore and learn about creation.

And if my grandmother had two wheels she'd be a bicycle.

 

[Guy Threepwood]

No matters what the current state of affairs is, it is a cohincidence. Your own existence, or the existence of anything else, including ugly things like the Ebola virus, is a huge cohincidence. The only way to avoid cohincidences is to not have anything existing at all.

Finding that mind boggling, a posteriori, is itself mind boggling.

Ciao

- viole

everything? what about the guy who is dating the lotto machine girl, and keeps winning the lottery, is that a coincidence?

 

[JerryL]

'insults are the most graceless form of conceding defeat' it is said

I'm not aware that you've quoted an insult. I could provide some actual insults for contrast if you like.

So where on the "how to concede defeat" chart does your red-herring fall?

 

[LuisDantas]

or evidence of intelligent design depending on how you look at it

I suppose you can insist on dogmatic denial if you really want to and are ready to accept the consequences.

 

[Midnight Rain]

or evidence of intelligent design depending on how you look at it

Can you explain the point of view that takes fossils of dinosaurs as evidence of ID?

 

[LuisDantas]

As in our examples- the amount of faith people put in theories has always been an important consideration, not acknowledging any only slows scientific progress

Either you are not aware of what a scientific theory is (most creationists either don't or deliberately refuse to use it) or you are just insisting on libel.

 

[Guy Threepwood]

Can you explain the point of view that takes fossils of dinosaurs as evidence of ID?

we wouldn't be here discussing this, had dinosaurs not dominated for millions of years, while vast reserves of the sun's energy were conveniently stored for our use after they had been removed, allowing us to explore and appreciate creation as we can today.

 

[Midnight Rain]

of intelligent design or evolution


we wouldn't be here discussing this, had dinosaurs not dominated for millions of years, while vast reserves of the sun's energy were conveniently stored for our use after they had been removed, allowing us to explore and appreciate creation as we can today.

And if the Native American's hadn't discovered gunpowder then America wouldn't have been easily conquered and changed into a mostly European dominated nation while reaping the benefits of a mostly underused resources of a brand new continent. I hardly see how this is ID in the work. Seems far more likely that it was simply the procession of events.

And the majority of our fossil fuels come from tree's not dinosaurs. Their existence really didn't affect the creation of oil or coal.

 

[Guy Threepwood]

And the majority of our fossil fuels come from tree's

yes, many millions of years worth, stored before our arrival. Had we arrived before this, we would not be escaping Earth's gravity to launch things like orbiting telescopes with battery powered rockets

 

[McBell]

we wouldn't be here discussing this, had dinosaurs not dominated for millions of years, while vast reserves of the sun's energy were conveniently stored for our use after they had been removed, allowing us to explore and appreciate creation as we can today.

Care to actually answer the question?