psychoslice
Veteran Member
If you cannot see the evidence of evolution before your eye's then your blind, how can you argue with a blind person, it makes no sense.
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Can you give me an observable evidence that Evolution is true?
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Muffled
Jesus in me
How can someone testify of what they have seen if they haen't seen it?
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe I can believe anything I like but I prefer to believe that which can be proven and you can believe anything you like but it doesn't mean that you have proven it.
I believe I am a logical person approaching the subject logically and you should try it sometime instead of just using epithets.
I believe you ought to explain why you think so unless you can't do so logically.
I believe I understand quite well but that doesn't mean I agree and the problem is that people who are taught things think it is a good excuse to not be reasonable and think things through.
They haven't written books and books about something they haven't seen.
Muffled
Jesus in me
There is evidence and there is evidence that one pot evolves from another (Just ask the archeologists) but it isn't proof.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe they have written books about things they have seen and about things they haven't seen. I haven't seen a flying elephant but there is a book written about it called "Dumbo."
shawn001
Well-Known Member
I am aware of how evolution is defined and the claim that copying errors or mutations bring in new information, I just don't really see how, could you give a source? Your assertion is more of an ad hominem to discredit rather than anything based on what I've said. The actual evidence you put forward was bogus and down to selective breeding, and now all you have is to start talking about how I haven't read up what any of it means, of course!
Evolution is explained by very minute changes over billions of years (though the Cambrian explosion sorta defies this) and this is how these big differences between species are explained. If you can show one minute change did occur though, how can you then extrapolate that backwards millions of years and say this is how everything was formed? I don't really see the empirical evidence, only well-thought out conjecture based on fossils, genetic similarities and then observed minute changes in species.
"A recent paper in Current Biology1 offers some important insights into a question creationists have long raised about the Cambrian explosion, the grand diversification of animals that occurred between about 530 to 520 Ma (millions of years ago). To wit: Was the geologically fast diversification during the Cambrian too fast to be explained by normal evolutionary processes? Does the Cambrian explosion threaten the theory of evolution? To these questions researchers at the University of Adelaide offer a definitive answer: “No.”"
“Darwin’s Dilemma”: Was the Cambrian Explosion Too Fast For Evolution? | NCSE
shawn001
Well-Known Member
The Cosmic Timeline
Imagine that the entire history of the universe is compressed into one year - with the Big Bang corresponding to the first second of the New Year's Day, and the present time to the last second of December 31st (midnight).
Using this scale of time, each month would equal a little over a billion years. Here's a closer look at when important events would occur when we imagine the universe in one year:
Cosmic Calendar
"Within the scheme of the Cosmic Calendar, an average human life of 70-80 years is equivalent to approximately 0.16 cosmic seconds!"
Imagine that the entire history of the universe is compressed into one year - with the Big Bang corresponding to the first second of the New Year's Day, and the present time to the last second of December 31st (midnight).
Using this scale of time, each month would equal a little over a billion years. Here's a closer look at when important events would occur when we imagine the universe in one year:
Cosmic Calendar
"Within the scheme of the Cosmic Calendar, an average human life of 70-80 years is equivalent to approximately 0.16 cosmic seconds!"
I think the thread isn't about evidence for evolution. It is about evidence for the evolution of one kind into another kind. How much of that do you have?
Monk Of Reason
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
Define "kind"
Mammal to fish. Plant to insect. Insect to bird.
Has an animal ever become a plant or a plant an animal? Why not?
Sapiens
Polymathematician
None of those describe evolution as it occurred. All of your requests ignore two realities (at least): evolution branches a new member of a clade off of an existing member of the same clade; and evolution never flows "backwards," like all your examples, which are backwards.
MD
qualiaphile
Given the right conditions it can happen....just would take a few hundred million years. Whales came from wolf like mammals.
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
Well why not is simply because that would be magic, not evolution. Evolution does not work that way, only Harry Potter can do that.
McBell
Unbound
psssst...
Pokemon
Guy Threepwood
Mighty Pirate
I am aware of how evolution is defined and the claim that copying errors or mutations bring in new information, I just don't really see how, could you give a source? Your assertion is more of an ad hominem to discredit rather than anything based on what I've said. The actual evidence you put forward was bogus and down to selective breeding, and now all you have is to start talking about how I haven't read up what any of it means, of course!
Evolution is explained by very minute changes over billions of years (though the Cambrian explosion sorta defies this) and this is how these big differences between species are explained. If you can show one minute change did occur though, how can you then extrapolate that backwards millions of years and say this is how everything was formed? I don't really see the empirical evidence, only well-thought out conjecture based on fossils, genetic similarities and then observed minute changes in species.
Insults are the most graceless form of conceding defeat, you already won this argument long ago!
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
Only if you think revealing a persecution complex is a victory.
Guy Threepwood
Mighty Pirate
don't worry I don't take them personally
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
Sadly I do take it a little personally - the disgusting lies US creationism teaches to children as facts would see them arrested in my country. The so called ' evolution controversy' was resolved in Europe, Australasia and most other developed countries in the 19th century.
Guy Threepwood
Mighty Pirate
I didn't know North Korea had internet access