No, I can't remember being C-sectioned out of my mom.
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can you remember being born?? i do
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arthra
Baha'i
There was a psychologist named ArthurJanov who wrote a book called The Primal Scream... the first trauma being birth...
Dr. Arthur Janov's Primal Center in Los Angeles - Research, education and psychotherapy treatment
Dr. Arthur Janov's Primal Center in Los Angeles - Research, education and psychotherapy treatment
averageJOE
zombie
snipped by me
Interesting how you were able to see all of this despite the fact that a babies eyesight doesn't develop till about 3 to 5 months of age.
Interesting how you were able to see all of this despite the fact that a babies eyesight doesn't develop till about 3 to 5 months of age.
FranklinMichaelV.3
Well-Known Member
Well there's eyesight, it's just very poorly developed, the ability to differentiate shapes and sizes and colors isn't there and more importantly they just won't focus on something that is more than 10 inches from their face. But what's most important is that it's way to much stimulation at birth, so even if you had the memories, you wouldn't be able to accurately pinpoint them, because you have to deal with sounds, smells, tastes, touch, and all your other like 15 senses besides just sight.
DawudTalut
Peace be upon you.
Its the first memory i can remember...except...i was only a spirit. I remember all the sudden being consciously aware of my being...and didnt know where i was. I immediately looked down at my 'hands'...and when i realized i didnt have a body...and i just simply WAS...i thought...o boy...im on earth...this outta be interesting. So i observed the room...to this day i can describe it in detail to my mother...who initially was dumbfounded the first time i mentioned my memory...its very accurate...and very real. I told myself it was a good idea to look out the window...and memorize something...sketch it in my mind...so i would have conformation later or something...so i memorized the opposing windows architecture. Lol. The design of the bricks...i then thought i should search for a clock on the wall....i wanted to make sure i remembered what time i was there apparently...2:45pm. (I was born at 3:12 pm i later found out) I finally was 100% sure i was witnessing my mother in a hospital room when i hovered to the ceiling to get a full-on view. And then.....blackness....followed by what seemed to be a fast moving tunnel of light....and i was calmly inside for the ride....moving at what seemed very high speeds...hard to describe it really...but i passed a few images towards the end of the tunnle...like it slowed down just enough for me to make out a man turning the knob on a 50s style tv console...(i have no idea about that one to this day...but. lol.) That was it...thats all i remember...my next memory wasnt until 1 1/2 or so...so im wondering if anyone can relate? And please...if your going to be rude...take it somewhere else...i seriously experienced this...i believe its 100% true so my 'religion' was formed by the fact that i am a spirit...i dont classify my beliefs into one 'religion'...but ive cut and pasted what fit the facts i new...and what branched out of those facts. Im im happy with it so far...so dont bring me down.thank you...and sorry if that was long winded. Input please and thank you.
Peace be on you.
1- A point of view:
Red words suggest that you was granted a verly-early-vision or out-of-body-experience.
2- Unrelated but interesting information about:
The newborn senses of taste and smell
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Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
A description consistent with reality.
Its the first memory i can remember...except...i was only a spirit. I remember all the sudden being consciously aware of my being...and didnt know where i was. I immediately looked down at my 'hands'...and when i realized i didnt have a body...and i just simply WAS...i thought...o boy...im on earth...this outta be interesting. So i observed the room...to this day i can describe it in detail to my mother...who initially was dumbfounded the first time i mentioned my memory...its very accurate...and very real. I told myself it was a good idea to look out the window...and memorize something...sketch it in my mind...so i would have conformation later or something...so i memorized the opposing windows architecture. Lol. The design of the bricks...i then thought i should search for a clock on the wall....i wanted to make sure i remembered what time i was there apparently...2:45pm. (I was born at 3:12 pm i later found out) I finally was 100% sure i was witnessing my mother in a hospital room when i hovered to the ceiling to get a full-on view. And then.....blackness....followed by what seemed to be a fast moving tunnel of light....and i was calmly inside for the ride....moving at what seemed very high speeds...hard to describe it really...but i passed a few images towards the end of the tunnle...like it slowed down just enough for me to make out a man turning the knob on a 50s style tv console...(i have no idea about that one to this day...but. lol.) That was it...thats all i remember...my next memory wasnt until 1 1/2 or so...so im wondering if anyone can relate? And please...if your going to be rude...take it somewhere else...i seriously experienced this...i believe its 100% true so my 'religion' was formed by the fact that i am a spirit...i dont classify my beliefs into one 'religion'...but ive cut and pasted what fit the facts i new...and what branched out of those facts. Im im happy with it so far...so dont bring me down.
I don't remember being born. I do remember a few points of reference, however, lying in a crib reaching for a bottle nipple, having my hand slapped because I was reaching toward what looked like chocolate on the carpet (and turned out to be dog poop), and walking around at a birthday party when my brothers foot was stung by a bee....all around the times when I was 1-2 years old. The last two corroborated by other family members with my memory and my age.
Knight of Albion
Well-Known Member
I don't remember being born, but I do remember, as a small boy, realising that I'd reincarnated again...
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Personally, I cannot remember being born. However, I have conversed with other people who have created memories of being born though. It seems somewhat common to people with a strong desire to feel special.
My earliest memory is, I believe, taking my first breath. The lights were so bright, and I remember I was crying in destress. I was being carried, and then laid against the "chest and neck" of what I presume was my mother. Where I found immediate warmth and comfort and I guess I went to sleep or "felt" safe as that is where the memory ends. A true memory, not making it up.
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YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
My earliest childhood memories are devoid of anything other than sight. Since there was no conceptual fabric to discern what I was seeing, only the image remains. I wasn't even aware of being "me". Later on, before words were attached to the experiences, I was self-conscious enough to know I was about to be put on a very cold scale to weigh me, but again, my sense of self was still very limited. I also remember screaming my lungs out when I got an inoculation which was juxtaposed with the wonder of looking at the beams of the ceiling that seemed so high up - so I was beginning sense spatial relationships. That was all before my first birthday.... ... but no, I have no memories of the birth experience itself.
Are you thinking she's lying to us?
We'll never know for sure. I give it a serious chance of being real as her experience is not unique and there is much evidence such things do occur even though they don't fit a materialist's worldview.
She is not saying these visions occurred through a newborn's physical eyeballs
Here's what you snipped out of her statement "except...i was only a spirit."
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YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
I guess that is where I diverge from the OP's writer. I had no sense of self in my earliest memories and am inclined to see this sense of self as being a projection on her part.
Exactly the kind of put-down she asked to be spared from. This is a debate forum though.
Anyway you can't know it was a created memory unless you ASSUME a materialist worldview. So you're all bluster anyway with your put-down.
She seems to be describing something different than you. She was describing her experiences as a spirit prior to full and final incarnation in the physical body. You are describing experiences after that point. Both types of experiences are interesting though.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Yes, you're special too.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Yeah, that's the part I'm not buying into. I wouldn't claim she is lying, but rather it is a simple case of projection.
Do you not buy into her story in particular or do you not buy into any story of a claimed paranormal and spiritual nature? (nde's, obe, pre-birth, etc. as being super-physical)
Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
One wonders why OBEs pre-birth would be witnessed with only the human field of view.