nPeace
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We agree on that. All the beasts and their horns have that in common.2. both are persecuting powers (Dan. 7:21, Dan. 7:25; Dan. 8:10, Dan. 8:24);
3. both are self-exalting and blasphemous (Dan. 7:8, Dan. 7:20, Dan. 7:25; Dan. 8:10-11, Dan. 8:25); 4. both target God’s people (Dan. 7:25, Dan. 8:24); 5. both have aspects of their activity delineated by prophetic time (Dan. 7:25; Dan. 8:13-14);
6. both extend until the end of time (Dan. 7:25-26; Dan. 8:17, Dan. 8:19);
That's orrect.and 7. both are to be supernaturally destroyed (Dan. 7:11, Dan. 7:26; Dan. 8:25).
I was looking for some kind of verification for your statement, but not seeing any.History identifies the first kingdom as Babylon (Dan. 2:38), the second as Media-Persia (Daniel 8:20-21) and the third as Greece (Daniel 7:6). History is unequivocal that after these world empires comes the Roman Empire. In Daniel chapter 2, the iron representing Rome continues into the feet of iron mixed with clay; that is, until the end of time. The little horn of Daniel chapter 7 comes forth from the fourth beast but remains part of this fourth beast but different to any other power that was before it.
Most historians don't agree with you that the first kingdom in opposition to God's people is Babylon. The Bible does not either.
That would be Egypt - recorded in the book of Exodus, which was conquered by Assyria.
Then we have the Assyrians, which we find in both the Sennacherib Prism and Babylonian Chronicle, and the books of Kings, Chronicles, and Isaiah... which was conquered by Babylon.
The historical timeline is chronological. It's not possible to leave out important characters like the Assyrians - mentioned by name in both the Bible, and history.
So, the first kingdom is Egypt; the second is Assyria, and Daniel continues from Babylon, and prophesies through to Rome. See images referenced earlier.
Babylon is the third kingdom.
Daniel happened to be there in Babylon, to receive God's prophetic word.
Nehemiah was the one who happened to be on hand, when the fourth kingdom gave the decree to rebuild Jerusalem.
Josephus confirmed the fulfillment of Daniel prophecy regarding Media Persia's fall to Greece.
We know the Messiah arrived during the rule of the terrible beast - Rome.
It was still around when the last apostle - John - died.
That's six.
- Egypt,
- Assyria,
- Babylon,
- Media Persia,
- Greece,
- and Rome.
Thus, the little horn of Daniel chapter 7 comes forth from the sixth beast.
If we get our numbers messed up along the way, that throws our calculations way off course.
There are a few problems with that.What power came out of Rome and continues its politico-religious influence for at least 1,260 years (see Dan. 7:25)? Only one power fits history and prophecy — the papacy.
- We cannot change the political beast into a religious entity. The beast is totally political, and the horns are totally political rulers - kings.
- In order to rule as a powerful king, this horn needed to "pluck three kingdoms" from the beast. You haven't provided that data.
- According to history, the papacy is not the "one power" coming out of Rome, that " fits history and prophecy".
The term Anglo-Saxon is a relatively modern one. It refers to settlers from the German regions of Angeln and Saxony, who made their way over to Britain after the fall of the Roman Empire around AD 410.
The Roman armies withdrew from Britain early in the fifth century because they were needed back home to defend the crumbling centre of the Empire. Britain was considered a far-flung outpost of little value.
It's a brief history, so please read on.We cannot leave out Britain here.
You can read about the Sub-Roman Britain is the period of late antiquity in Great Britain between the end of Roman rule and the Anglo-Saxon settlement.
...and...
The British Empire: The Largest Empire In The World
The British Empire was, at its height, the largest empire the world had ever seen. Covering a quarter of the globe and containing a fifth of the world’s population, it was, quite simply, unmatched in size and scope. Even today, the legacy of the British Empire is still evident in the many countries that were once part of it.
...As Bommas points out, the Romans dominated this competition for years to come.
Britain emerged as a world power, History shows how it could have emerged from Rome.
Not only did it emerge as a world power, it pluck three kings from the beast. Thus, Britain fits perfectly in the prophecy of Daniel, and history.
How Britain gained an empire
Conflict with Spain, Holland and France [- three kingdoms].
[The defeat of France] confirmed British control of the region.
There is more, on how the British Empire fits.
However, Britain is not by itself the little horn.
The little horn's emergence starts from a baby, to a full grown adult.
We see its growth from the history timeline given here.
More on that, later.