Capitalists may have the same mentality as Nazis: that people must be enslaved

[Estro Felino]

I don't even think she's running.

If she were running.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Maybe in the US these categories may apply.
Not in Europe.

Well, they do apply in at least one version of Europe, but yes, not in your version of Europe.

 

[Father Heathen]

I think that if you're from Europe...you do know that in Europe we don't talk about trivial things like Trump's sexual prowess or Harris' skin color.

You are the only one who talks about Trump's "sexual prowess", and the only ones who talk about Harris' race are your beloved right-wingers.

Or at least, in my country politics media speak of banks, taxes, inflation, war...
More serious stuff.

When do you ever discuss serious stuff? It's always goofy conspiracy theories or fetishization of terrorists and tyrants.

 

[Father Heathen]

Maybe in the US these categories may apply.
Not in Europe.

They do in fact apply in Europe.

 

[Estro Felino]

They do in fact apply in Europe.

So you do know European politics...

Good. Tell me the difference between the European Popular Party and the European Conservatives Party.

 

[Estro Felino]

Well, they do apply in at least one version of Europe, but yes, not in your version of Europe.

For instance...
Denmark is not even in the Euro-Zone...
Have they ever thought about a Dexit....or something ike that?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

For instance...
Denmark is not even in the Euro-Zone...
Have they ever thought about a Dexit....or something ike that?

Well, what is Denmark's connection to the Euro-Zone as such?

 

[Estro Felino]

Well, what is Denmark's connection to the Euro-Zone as such?

I mean...Britain left the EU and yet we have wonderful relations with the British...
So I don't see why DK shouldn't do the same, dearest.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I mean...Britain left the EU and yet we have wonderful relations with the British...
So I don't see why DK shouldn't do the same, dearest.

Yeah, well, you didn't answer. So I will try again. What is the general relationship in the regards to the EU and Denmark?

 

[Estro Felino]

Yeah, well, you didn't answer. So I will try again. What is the general relationship in the regards to the EU and Denmark?

Even if I asked you about the topic...that is IG Farben, Auschwitz and Capitalism, you wouldn't answer...
So you don't answer my questions a priori.
Even if they are about the OP.

 

[Estro Felino]

When do you ever discuss serious stuff? It's always goofy conspiracy theories or fetishization of terrorists and tyrants.

Okay...let's talk about capitalism and unfair labor practices.
Give me one single reason why I should side with the American Democrats.
(The Italian Democrats are the same thing, so...).

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Even if I asked you about the topic...that is IG Farben, Auschwitz and Capitalism, you wouldn't answer...
So you don't answer my questions a priori.
Even if they are about the OP.

Well, in a sense if there are only capitalists and everybody else are slaves, then there is no profit to be made on the capital. So it wouldn't be capitalism in a sense.
Now capitalism happens in a society, where there are other things to account for than just capital, but yes, some people don't care about other people, but that has not to do with only capitalism.

Your turn to answer now.

 

[Estro Felino]

Well, in a sense if there are only capitalists and everybody else are slaves, then there is no profit to be made on the capital. So it wouldn't be capitalism in a sense.
Now capitalism happens in a society, where there are other things to account for than just capital, but yes, some people don't care about other people, but that has not to do with only capitalism.

Your turn to answer now.

Thank you for your answer.
As for my questions, I was wondering whether Denmark had values which are incompatible with the new EU the nationalists are going to create.
Because I have some news for you: technocrats abd banksters will be chased away sooner or later from the Brussels institutions.
And a new EU will arise.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Thank you for your answer.
As for my questions, I was wondering whether Denmark had values which are incompatible with the new EU the nationalists are going to create.
Because I have some news for you: technocrats abd banksters will be chased away sooner or later from the Brussels institutions.
And a new EU will arise.

Well, maybe. I don't know that one way or another. And neither do you as the truth. You believe in it, but that is something else.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

For instance...
Denmark is not even in the Euro-Zone...
Have they ever thought about a Dexit....or something ike that?

So again. What is Denamrk's relationship to the Euro-Zone?

 

[Stevicus]

Thank you for your answer.
As for my questions, I was wondering whether Denmark had values which are incompatible with the new EU the nationalists are going to create.
Because I have some news for you: technocrats abd banksters will be chased away sooner or later from the Brussels institutions.
And a new EU will arise.

Nationalists are going to create a new EU? Nationalism in Europe is like pouring gasoline on a fire. It's not entirely surprising that it's happening, especially since the end of the Cold War. Nationalism and capitalism are two peas in a pod, both heavily relying on principles of natural law to justify themselves. Such a philosophy holds that the strong dominate the weak as part of the natural order.

Nationalism holds that stronger nations can and should dominate weaker nations, just as capitalism holds that those who are smarter, stronger, or more aggressive should get the lion's share of the spoils. It's just how nature works, while the primary complaint capitalists have against socialism is that "it goes against human nature" to have a society based on economic equality and social justice.

The World Wars were so devastating to Europe that my impression was that most Europeans were pretty much done with nationalism. But I can kind of see that, with Europe divided between a pro-American and a pro-Soviet faction for so long, it might be a struggle to find one's own national identity within that construct.

In America, it's a different perception, because America big. America powerful. Nobody better mess with America. We're even badder than Chuck Norris, but that's okay, since he's on our side anyway.

That's the way many Americans see their country and its relationships with the rest of the world. And again, that's the adherence to natural law kicking in, as we see ourselves as the strongest, so we get to call the shots and declare what is right and what is wrong.

We consider ourselves the leaders of the free world and the guardians of righteousness in the universe. Americans don't think of themselves as any kind of "vassal" or "colony" (although there's always been an underlying worry that we could become that if we're not careful).

I don't really look at the countries of Europe as "vassals," but considering the history these past 80 years, we've developed a close, cooperative relationship which has definitely worked to Europe's benefit. Just like America, Europe has enjoyed the fruits and benefits of living in a first world developed economy, under the protective umbrella of a very strong and proactive military alliance.

Of course, no one is being forced. Any European government has the right to withdraw - but that would mean getting kicked off the gravy train, which may not be a viable option.

 

[Estro Felino]

I don't really look at the countries of Europe as "vassals," but considering the history these past 80 years, we've developed a close, cooperative relationship which has definitely worked to Europe's benefit. Just like America, Europe has enjoyed the fruits and benefits of living in a first world developed economy, under the protective umbrella of a very strong and proactive military alliance.

Honestly I think the CIA sabotaged the two pipelines. This has been causing enormous economic problems for German GDP and for German society.
It's a destructive umbrella, not a protective one.

Of course, no one is being forced. Any European government has the right to withdraw - but that would mean getting kicked off the gravy train, which may not be a viable option.

I think that we live in a multipolar world...and all nations should cooperate instead of competing.
Europe is based upon nation-state and savage globalism fuels nationalism as a reaction.

 

[Kfox]

Quid pro quo.
I won't answer unless you answer my question about the Italian PM first.

Fair enough; here’s my answer. In the US we don’t know much about the politics of small countries like Niger. The only thing I know about this issue is based on what you said and the video you’ve provided. For me that isn’t enough to have an actual opinion on the issue, but based on the information I’ve gotten from you, a few things stick out to me; you said corporate thieves are stealing resources from Niger; but if the person who owns the land has made a deal with foreign corporations to mine resources, I see nothing wrong with this; it happens all the time. In the USA there are many Corporations from foreign companies that own land here and do business all the time! Based on the little information I’ve got, I don’t see what is going on in Niger as any different than what happens in the USA and countries all over the world. The fact that the PM of Italy does not approve means no more to me than if you, or I did not approve.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

That's what transpires from Hannah Arendt's books : that the IG Farben demanded from the Nazis slave labor, and Jews were exploited so that the Capitalists that owned the IG Farben could obtain the profit maximization, and produce chemicals with basically zero costs of productions.

This is what Capitalism does to men: it transforms them into greedy people, who lose their humanhood, so I am entitled to call them greedy wolves.
Greedy, sadistic wolves disposed to enjoy seeing Jews dying while working in those camps.
They even built their factories around Auschwitz on purpose.
It's all in Hannah Arendt's book The banality of evil.

Thoughts?

Not sure what your point is.

Are you saying that all capitalists are nazi's who want to use jews as slave workers?
Your post is very confusing.

You seem to try to generalize about capitalists, but you are only talking about one specific group of people during one particular era in human history in one very specific context.

 

[Estro Felino]

Fair enough; here’s my answer. In the US we don’t know much about the politics of small countries like Niger. The only thing I know about this issue is based on what you said and the video you’ve provided. For me that isn’t enough to have an actual opinion on the issue, but based on the information I’ve gotten from you, a few things stick out to me; you said corporate thieves are stealing resources from Niger; but if the person who owns the land has made a deal with foreign corporations to mine resources, I see nothing wrong with this; it happens all the time. In the USA there are many Corporations from foreign companies that own land here and do business all the time! Based on the little information I’ve got, I don’t see what is going on in Niger as any different than what happens in the USA and countries all over the world. The fact that the PM of Italy does not approve means no more to me than if you, or I did not approve.

I see.
It is a matter of mentality.
We are incompatible. My country has another mentality which is the result of 150 years of socialism.
That is why we feel much closer to the Russians, ideologically, culturally and spiritually.