There are hundreds of Christian denominations out there. That endorse Freemasonry.
Why should a Freemason choose Roman Catholicism?
I don't understand it, honestly.
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Catholic Vatican banning all Catholics from becoming Freemasons is now confirmed.
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Why should a Freemason choose Roman Catholicism?
I don't understand it, honestly.
There are hundreds of Christian denominations out there. That endorse Freemasonry.
Why should a Freemason choose Roman Catholicism?
I don't understand it, honestly.
I don't know. I was originally baptized Catholic, but after my parents divorced, they pretty much stopped going to church, although my grandparents still tried to push the religion on me, though that didn't really last more than a few years. To be honest, I never really had anything against the Church, but as I started to become more exposed to other religious beliefs, as well as those who lacked any religious beliefs, I just couldn't see much reason to continue going to church.
I don't know why anyone would choose Freemasonry or Catholicism. Either they really believe in the principles represented by these organizations, or they might be just doing so in order to advance their position or conform to some sort of accepted community standard for various reasons. Some might do it because it's what their parents did, just following some sort of tradition.
Okay...if that's cultural...someone is free to identify themselves as Catholic, but I don't see why they should attend the Mass and take the holy sacraments, if they believe in Freemasonic rituals and values.
I don't understand this, honestly.
I really don't think you understand what the values are.
They could be explained to you, but it would likely be a waste of time because you have already made up your mind on what they are.
I am exclusively speaking of Italian Freemasonry.
They have done anything to let people have prejudices against them.
Anything.
And they are not interested in refuting them. They don't care. They hide.
I don't know any foreign Freemason. They're surely the friendliest people on Earth...
There are plenty of instances where there might be some degree of conflict between the Church's teachings and what people actually do in life. One example which has come up in the past is when Catholic politicians are asked about their stance on abortion, particularly if they're Democrats and depend on support from people who support abortion rights. But their religious beliefs might tell them that abortion is wrong, so they face a bit of a dilemma in how to respond to such questions.
Or an even more basic example would be any politician or citizen who supports going to war while also claiming to believe in a religion that believes in peace and turning the other cheek. That also seems to be a conflict of beliefs and principles.
Yokefellow
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If the Christian God judged Freemasons according to their symbols, they would be in very big trouble.
It is one abomination after another...
Unfortunately, many of their symbols and rituals are blasphemous when compared to Scripture.
Yokefellow
Active Member
@SalixIncendium
Your Username reminds me of this Freemason symbol...
SALIX NONI TENGU
The Bible decodes the meaning of its 'Royal Secret'.
Your Username reminds me of this Freemason symbol...
SALIX NONI TENGU
The Bible decodes the meaning of its 'Royal Secret'.
Ab Chao Ordo is a Satanic phrase.
On a Cross...
so the RCC has 1 million good reasons to state the absolute incompatibility between the two.
And by the way the Novus Ordo Seclorum Annuit Coeptis sounds like the response to that Ab Chao Ordo.
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Viker
Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
No it isn't.
What does that mean?
Explain.
Viker
Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
It is not a "Satanic phrase". I don't understand how you could not know what I meant.
Viker
Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
I don't know if you have a valid point or not. But that is a beautiful symbol.
Yes, it is.
It means that chaos is created to have order.
So it means they deliberately create chaos. They, those who believe in that symbol.
Viker
Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
I don't see anything "Satanic" about that at all. And if we go with actual Latin it means order from chaos, as it directly states. That means to make order from chaos. It's not saying to create chaos. It's more or less saying to bring order, balance, structure to a chaotic situation or experience.
It appears to be universal not "Satanic".
A/Ab implies dependence.
It means that there is no chaos, you can't have order.
The entire phrase is Ordo (subject) est (is) ab chao (from Chaos, depends on Chaos).
Order is from Chaos.
It depends on Chaos.
It derives from Chaos.
In most Latin phrases est is omitted.
Viker
Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
Regardless of Latin understanding. It's implied as a universal statement.
The real reason the Vatican is anti Mason is that they can't control or wield authority over the Masons. It's been an ongoing power struggle since the 1700s. Catholics have no place or room to lecture others about scandals or what goes on behind closed doors.
What did Jesus say, "before you remove the speck from your brother's eye....remove the plank from your own"?
No...the Roman Catholicism is anti-Freemasonry because Freemasons unconsciously feel superior to the other Catholics...
That's incompatible with Christ's teachings.
If they didn't feel superior, they would treat all people equally.
PS: Nobody denies the past crimes of the Church.
I touch the willow.@SalixIncendium
Your Username reminds me of this Freemason symbol...
SALIX NONI TENGU
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The Bible decodes the meaning of its 'Royal Secret'.
Any idea what it means in Freemasonry?