Catholicism & Christianity

[krsnaraja]

So in other words the destruction of indigenous cultures.

The Sr Santo Nino de Cebu is the elder brother of Krishna. He is the supreme spiritual master of all. He is the one who founded the Catholic Church. That`s why Thomas & the rest of Jesus disciples were not able to identify the risen Christ. Because it was the first time they saw Balaramaji in the flesh. I`m not the only one advocating it. There`s a Catholic Goswami- a member of ISKCON who has also seen the light.

 

[Father Heathen]

The Sr Santo Nino de Cebu is the elder brother of Krishna. He is the supreme spiritual master of all. He is the one who founded the Catholic Church. That`s why Thomas & the rest of Jesus disciples were not able to identify the risen Christ. Because it was the first time they saw Balaramaji in the flesh. I`m not the only one advocating it. There`s a Catholic Goswami- a member of ISKCON who has also seen the light.

Sometimes tells me this isn't mainstream catholicism.

 

[krsnaraja]

Christ & Krishna

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Krsna Balarama - YouTube

 

[Father Heathen]

Wouldn't the pope consider such an amalgam of faiths a heresy?

 

[krsnaraja]

Sometimes tells me this isn't mainstream catholicism.

It`s because Catholicism is made in the likeness of Hinduism.

 

[Father Heathen]

It`s because Catholicism is made in the likeness of Hinduism.

Don't you think it's derivative origins point toward Catholicism being false?

 

[krsnaraja]

Wouldn't the pope consider such an amalgam of faiths a heresy?

Did you know Srila Prabhupada-the founder of ISCKON surrendered his books, Srimad Bhagavatam & Bhagavad-gita As It Is to Blessed Pope John Paul II when the former paid a visit to Vatican in the early 70s?

 

[Father Heathen]

Did you know Srila Prabhupada-the founder of ISCKON surrendered his books, Srimad Bhagavatam & Bhagavad-gita As It Is to Blessed Pope John Paul II when the former paid a visit to Vatican in the early 70s?

What did that gesture indicate?

 

[krsnaraja]

Don't you think it's derivative origins point toward Catholicism being false?

Protestantism is based on the teachings of Christ in the Bible. & Christ is Balarama-the Great white Soul. If this is established then Protestantism has no leg to stand on.

 

[Father Heathen]

o i c. kk.

 

[krsnaraja]

What did that gesture indicate?

It indicated Christ-the Great white Soul is no other than Balarama-Krishna`s elder half brother.

 

[krsnaraja]

Christ Jesus is an incarnation of the serpent Shesha. Just as Balarama- the elder half brother of Krishna is an incarnation of the serpent Shesha.

John 3:14-15
New International Version (NIV)
14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15 that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him.

 

[Renji]

Now this thread gives me headache (especially the later posts).

 

[Mister Emu]

Why not use the handy quote facility?

I did.

So what is the 'Vicar of Christ' idea for?

What does that have to do with Paul passing on God's will both orally and in writing?

So the Catholic God is one easily thwarted from his eternal purpose on a technicality.

Where did you get that?

So does that make murder by Catholics ok?

I believe I already said that they were not. But, it is silly to trot out sins of Catholics to say they aren't Christian when protestants have blood on their hands too.

So physical death automatically leads to spiritual death?

That question doesn't follow the statement.

Paederasty is within it, and has been cultured therein. Other organisations that do so are closed down on the spot.

I didn't want to get into this, because what members of the hierarchy did was inexcusable and I don't want to sound like I am defending them. However, prevalence, in terms of percentages, of minor abusers is lower among priests of the Catholic Church than among pastors of Protestant churches and among the general population. 1.7 compared to 2.5 and 4 percent respectively.

Who arguably were more civilised than 'the Church'.

Only if you are blatantly biased and don't even care to show it.

Would you care to answer these questions:
Do you believe that God's word is restricted to the Biblical canon?
Do you believe that Christianity is democratic?

 

[krsnaraja]

Now this thread gives me headache (especially the later posts).

Here`s a Paracetamol 500mg for you, Lawrence.

 

[krsnaraja]

I repeat for the nth time. Catholicism is made in the likeness of Hinduism. Can`t anybody here understand? the 12 disciples of Christ is akin to the 12 Mahajanas of Krishna.


Bhagavata Purana list twelve Mahajanas, great devotees of Vishnu and knowers of dharma. They are Lord Brahma, Narada, Shiva, the four Kumaras, Kapila - the son of Devahuti, Svayambhuva Manu, Prahlada, Janaka, Bhishma, Bali, Śuka, and Yama.

The Twelve Apostles of Christ include Peter (whom some denominations consider the "Prince of the Apostles"); Andrew, James the Greater, James the Lesser, John, Philip, Bartholomew, Matthew, Thomas, Thaddeus, Simon, and Judas Iscariot.

 

[Villager]

I did.

Not when the question was asked.

It is also notable that failure to use the quote facility for whole posts can make following a discussion difficult.

What does that have to do with Paul passing on God's will both orally and in writing?

God's whole will, in writing. No wonder that one cannot possibly agree with sola Scriptura if one recognises another, separate, independent authority of apparently equal status.

Where did you get that?

From the respective statement made in post #227 on page 23.

it is silly to trot out sins of Catholics to say they aren't Christian when protestants have blood on their hands too.

So are we to believe that a vicar of Christ is superfluous? That seven exclusive sacraments are of no avail? That eating the true Body of Christ does not fortify moral fibre? That the following of Herr Ratzinger is no more a city set on a hill, a lamp on a stand, than any pagan association? Why compare God's elect with the accursed?

That question doesn't follow the statement.

Like night follows day. We are asked to believe that all who die physically also go to hell. Which makes one wonder what Catholicism is for, unless it is for purposes in this world, only.

what members of the hierarchy did was inexcusable

But others don't have a hierarchy. Decent citizens, religious or not, obey criminal law; not the likes of Bernard Law, who still has undue influence in this world for three more days.

'The hierarchy' has been inexcusable for a very long time, for one reason or/and another. It is not just for today's evils that Catholics have had no option but to confess to. The abuses of Western Catholic institutions became a literary cliché in the 20th century. The blanket censorship, threats, actual bodily harm of papalism reaches back to those colossal, glittering, even grandiose stone edifices that stood surrounded by the most appalling hovels. It encompasses the mind-numbing ignorance and superstition of the masses, the scandalous uselessness of priests, the shameless abuses of friars, cardinals and popes that papalism engendered when left on its own. Power corrupted, and it corrupted absolutely, when it was absolute.

There is no historic age in which it can be said that the RCC was not either coercive or corrupt; though frequently both. And this, from a religion that somewhere advises that "You will know them by their fruits"! There seems to be some measure of self-delusion in all this.

Only if you are blatantly biased and don't even care to show it.

I merely allude to the views of some modern historians who reckon to take a wider and more objective view than the Eurocentric (and possibly Catholic-dominated) views of the past.

Would you care to answer these questions

If they are on topic. The topic is the RCC qua Christianity. It is not any poster.

The views of Catholics, otoh, are highly apposite.

"I learned much from the Order of the Jesuits. Until now, there has never been anything more grandiose, on the earth, than the hierarchical organization of the Catholic Church." Adolf Hitler

Are Catholics proud of this commendation?

 

[Kathryn]

Oh come on - Hitler also liked animals and little children and gave them a ringing endorsement as well. That doesn't mean anything.

Though thanks for employing the apparently inevitable Hitler reference. Always good for a laugh!

 

[Villager]

Oh come on - Hitler also liked animals and little children

Of course he did. They did not oppose his dream, his Reich, like those confoundedly awkward adult humans!

That doesn't mean anything.

That doesn't mean anything.

Evidently it means rather a lot.

Evidently Catholicism is not really compatible with democracies.

 

[Kathryn]

Democracies are not all they're cracked up to be.