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Challenge for those that believe in billions of years for the age of things. Give anything that is more than 6000 years old. NO ASSUMPTIONS ALLOWED.

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I just refuted a whole bunch of evolution and billions of years.
Nope. You didn't. Go check the peer reviewed literature. Neither you nor your arguments are listed anywhere in it.

You are beginning to sound like the people you find in the Napoleon wards:

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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Projection.

So you failed the challenge, could not refute the proof, and cannot answer or refute the questions.
You did not provide any proof.

But I do like how you copy arguments that only apply to you.

I need to remind you that you only have an elementary school level of scientific literacy. That can be corrected, but you need to be willing to learn the basics of science first.
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
You did not provide any proof.

But I do like how you copy arguments that only apply to you.

I need to remind you that you only have an elementary school level of scientific literacy. That can be corrected, but you need to be willing to learn the basics of science first.
What are your credentials?
 

Alien826

No religious beliefs
It would be pointless to discuss anything with a poster who's only purpose is feign being amenable to evidenced argument so that he can tell you that you failed. As for dictating, yes, he is powerless to do so, but that doesn't mean he isn't trying, and you can be certain how such a discussion will progress. YOU are not allowed to make assumptions, but he puts no such constraint on himself. Why would anyone other than a perennial doormat like Charlie Brown enter into such a discussion?

I have an answer to your last question.

First, there's no doubt that he has no expectation of convincing the likes of you and me that any of his assertions are correct. So why waste his time? I submit that we are not the intended audience. The idea is to chip away at "belief" in science and sway the weak minded to his pov. The motivation? I don't want to speculate, but usually money appears somewhere when you look into such things.

So what is the point in refuting his arguments? Just a waste of time? We'll never convince him of anything? True, but if I can prevent just one undecided person from being convinced, then it is worth it. You are doing a great job with your approach (attacking his "debating" methods rather than the actual substance) btw.

Why I suggested an in depth exploration of just one of his claims was to keep the focus in one place. If we allow him to hop from one subject to another, we will not get to demonstrate the falsity of anything. And if we can clearly show the error of one claim, it may be inferred that the other claims can be refuted as easily. It doesn't matter if he himself is not convinced. He's not the audience.
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
I have an answer to your last question.

First, there's no doubt that he has no expectation of convincing the likes of you and me that any of his assertions are correct. So why waste his time? I submit that we are not the intended audience. The idea is to chip away at "belief" in science and sway the weak minded to his pov. The motivation? I don't want to speculate, but usually money appears somewhere when you look into such things.

So what is the point in refuting his arguments? Just a waste of time? We'll never convince him of anything? True, but if I can prevent just one undecided person from being convinced, then it is worth it. You are doing a great job with your approach (attacking his "debating" methods rather than the actual substance) btw.

Why I suggested an in depth exploration of just one of his claims was to keep the focus in one place. If we allow him to hop from one subject to another, we will not get to demonstrate the falsity of anything. And if we can clearly show the error of one claim, it may be inferred that the other claims can be refuted as easily. It doesn't matter if he himself is not convinced. He's not the audience.
Please provide any answer.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
What rules are you talking about?
The rules of the forum.

For example, even though you have been making incredibly brain dead arguments no one has called you a fool or an idiot or other pejoratives. That would be against the rules here. Trolling is also against the rules of the forum. You know how when you sign up for a new product that you often have to click 'yes" on some long list of things that you agreed to? Well you had to do that here when you joined. I did not really read the rules very much either. I scanned them and they are the normal rules for a forum where one wants polite discourse.
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
The rules of the forum.

For example, even though you have been making incredibly brain dead arguments no one has called you a fool or an idiot or other pejoratives. That would be against the rules here. Trolling is also against the rules of the forum. You know how when you sign up for a new product that you often have to click 'yes" on some long list of things that you agreed to? Well you had to do that here when you joined. I did not really read the rules very much either. I scanned them and they are the normal rules for a forum where one wants polite discourse.
I have not trolled and my arguments are impeccable.
And learn to be polite.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I have not trolled and my arguments are impeccable.
And learn to be polite.
Oh my! You can't tell such whoppers and not expect people to laugh at you. You repeated the exact same question three times. It was a pointless one since your credentials are even worse. That is trolling. That is against the rules.

And I have been far more polite than you have been. You need to try to lead by example. Not by hypocrisy.
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
Oh my! You can't tell such whoppers and not expect people to laugh at you. You repeated the exact same question three times. It was a pointless one since your credentials are even worse. That is trolling. That is against the rules.

And I have been far more polite than you have been. You need to try to lead by example. Not by hypocrisy.
More debate 101 techniques because the truth and facts are against your false theories.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
More debate 101 techniques because the truth and facts are against your false theories.
No, you failed debate 101. I offered to go over the basics of science with you. You ran away because you know that you are wrong. The offer is still open. The basics that I we discuss will be the basics of all of the sciences, not just of evolution.

But every creationist that I have made that offer to chickens out and runs away. I doubt if you will be any different.
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
No, you failed debate 101. I offered to go over the basics of science with you. You ran away because you know that you are wrong. The offer is still open. The basics that I we discuss will be the basics of all of the sciences, not just of evolution.

But every creationist that I have made that offer to chickens out and runs away. I doubt if you will be any different.
What came first, the chicken or the egg? If you are going to put that off and try to work back to the first egg, what came first that egg of the creature that laid it.
 
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