Challenge for those that believe in billions of years for the age of things. Give anything that is more than 6000 years old. NO ASSUMPTIONS ALLOWED.

[Subduction Zone]

You speak as if you’re this scientific genius when you’re having a normal conversation.

“Reject your superficial judgment as an adequate” haha

One does not need to be a scientific genius to understand the basics of science. Once one learns the basics it is much easier to understand how scientists support their work. One does not need to blindly accept it as you falsely claim.

 

[Watchmen]

Hey all, let’s not feed the troll. Enough is enough already.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

Can anyone meet this very simple challenge?

Or can they refute this.

Those that use the no God of assumption of Atheistic Origin Science (AOS) have been deceived into believing that the first creature could come into existence by random chance.

Never has been observed. Simple analysis shows it is impossible. There is no record that it ever did.

So, the evolutionist has the burden of proof.

For a specific sequence of 100,000 amino acids (20 types, 39 with handedness) the odds against just the code is 10^160,000 to 1. That is 1 followed by 160,000 zeros. That is almost 100 pages to type out. With 10% of the combinations being possible (probably lower) the odds drop quite a bit to 10^159,999 to 1. So that is still almost 100 pages to type out with the removal of 1 zero.

And of course, I did not take into account the almost 100 million other atoms of specific elements in specific bonds with other elements located at specific positions in 3D space. And all this would have to be in place in very close proximity almost simultaneously. It s still impossible. And of course, the poor creature does not live long and has no descendants.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Can anyone meet this very simple challenge?

Or can they refute this.

Those that use the no God of assumption of Atheistic Origin Science (AOS) have been deceived into believing that the first creature could come into existence by random chance.

Never has been observed. Simple analysis shows it is impossible. There is no record that it ever did.

So, the evolutionist has the burden of proof.

For a specific sequence of 100,000 amino acids (20 types, 39 with handedness) the odds against just the code is 10^160,000 to 1. That is 1 followed by 160,000 zeros. That is almost 100 pages to type out. With 10% of the combinations being possible (probably lower) the odds drop quite a bit to 10^159,999 to 1. So that is still almost 100 pages to type out with the removal of 1 zero.

And of course, I did not take into account the almost 100 million other atoms of specific elements in specific bonds with other elements located at specific positions in 3D space. And all this would have to be in place in very close proximity almost simultaneously. It s still impossible. And of course, the poor creature does not live long and has no descendants.

Sorry, but you lose as soon as you use a strawman argument. You need to define and prove your "No God assumption".

And I need to remind you that you cannot do math. You have no way of calculating odds. You are probably just copying from a lying site again. You may not be lying on purpose, but repeating the lies of others is lying by proxy. They are lying and you are helping them.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

Sorry, but you lose as soon as you use a strawman argument. You need to define and prove your "No God assumption".

And I need to remind you that you cannot do math. You have no way of calculating odds. You are probably just copying from a lying site again. You may not be lying on purpose, but repeating the lies of others is lying by proxy. They are lying and you are helping them.

I did not copy. i did not lie. The odds are just for the a large specific sequence of amino acids of varying types. In reality as I noted it is impossible for many other reasons.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I did not copy. i did not lie. The odds are just for the a large specific sequence of amino acids of varying types. In reality as I noted it is impossible for many other reasons.

Really? Then show your math. And I did not say that you lied, though arguably you did, I said that you copied liars. That is clear. There is no doubt that you are guilty of posting falsehoods:

"I believe it is an established maxim in morals that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false, is guilty of falsehood; and the accidental truth of the assertion, does not justify or excuse him."

Abraham Lincoln

 

[SavedByTheLord]

Sorry, but you lose as soon as you use a strawman argument. You need to define and prove your "No God assumption".

And I need to remind you that you cannot do math. You have no way of calculating odds. You are probably just copying from a lying site again. You may not be lying on purpose, but repeating the lies of others is lying by proxy. They are lying and you are helping them.

I did not copy. i did not lie. The odds are just for the a large specific sequence of amino acids of varying types. In reality as I noted it is impossible for many other reasons.

Really? Then show your math. And I did not say that you lied, though arguably you did, I said that you copied liars. That is clear. There is no doubt that you are guilty of posting falsehoods:

"I believe it is an established maxim in morals that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false, is guilty of falsehood; and the accidental truth of the assertion, does not justify or excuse him."

Abraham Lincoln

For a specific sequence of 100,000 amino acids (20 types, 39 with handedness) the odds against just the code is 10^160,000 to 1. That is 1 followed by 160,000 zeros. That is almost 100 pages to type out. With 10% of the combinations being possible (probably lower) the odds drop quite a bit to 10^159,999 to 1. So that is still almost 100 pages to type out with the removal of 1 zero.

And of course, I did not take into account the almost 100 million other atoms of specific elements in specific bonds with other elements located at specific positions in 3D space. And all this would have to be in place in very close proximity almost simultaneously. It s still impossible. And of course, the poor creature does not live long and has no descendants.

I have gone above and beyond to help the no God assumption of the AOS crowd as much as possible.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I did not copy. i did not lie. The odds are just for the a large specific sequence of amino acids of varying types. In reality as I noted it is impossible for many other reasons.

If that is true then you can do the math. If you cannot do the math then you have just lied. This is rather simple, you cannot just put number out of your nether regions. When you use them you have to be willing and able to support them. I am pretty sure that you just copied from a lying source.

For a specific sequence of 100,000 amino acids (20 types, 39 with handedness) the odds against just the code is 10^160,000 to 1. That is 1 followed by 160,000 zeros. That is almost 100 pages to type out. With 10% of the combinations being possible (probably lower) the odds drop quite a bit to 10^159,999 to 1. So that is still almost 100 pages to type out with the removal of 1 zero.

Once again you need to justify all of your assumptions and do the math. Just repeating a number is not supporting it. Show your math. Justify your assumptions.

And of course, I did not take into account the almost 100 million other atoms of specific elements in specific bonds with other elements located at specific positions in 3D space. And all this would have to be in place in very close proximity almost simultaneously. It s still impossible. And of course, the poor creature does not live long and has no descendants.

Or, and this is far far more likely, you have no understanding of chemistry at all.

I have gone above and beyond to help the no God assumption of the AOS crowd as much as possible.

No you have never justified that so called assumption. You do not seem to understand how to support any of your beliefs.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

If that is true then you can do the math. If you cannot do the math then you have just lied. This is rather simple, you cannot just put number out of your nether regions. When you use them you have to be willing and able to support them. I am pretty sure that you just copied from a lying source.


Once again you need to justify all of your assumptions and do the math. Just repeating a number is not supporting it. Show your math. Justify your assumptions.


Or, and this is far far more likely, you have no understanding of chemistry at all.


No you have never justified that so called assumption. You do not seem to understand how to support any of your beliefs.

What was the first living creature's protective layer made of?

 

[Subduction Zone]

What was the first living creature's protective layer made of?

I can answer that too. That is known. But, once again, you need to justify your questions.

Oh, and if you had been paying attention this was answered in these threads. You really should pay more attention when your nonsense is refuted.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

I can answer that too. That is known. But, once again, you need to justify your questions.

Oh, and if you had been paying attention this was answered in these threads. You really should pay more attention when your nonsense is refuted.

No answer.
Please post your answer. Make sure it is the official answer.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No answer.
Please post your answer. Make sure it is the official answer.

Dude! There was an answer. The fact that you cannot do what you have to do is your fault.

Do not blame others for your sins.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

Dude! There was an answer. The fact that you cannot do what you have to do is your fault.

Do not blame others for your sins.

Post it for me.
There was no real answer.
Make it be from the official answer books

 

[Subduction Zone]

Post it for me.
There was no real answer.
Make it be from the official answer books

Yes there was a "real answer". You do not get to make demands when you cannot understand the answers.

You sadly do not even know how to make proper demands.

I am willing to help you to learn. You will become a better debater.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

Yes there was a "real answer". You do not get to make demands when you cannot understand the answers.

You sadly do not even know how to make proper demands.

I am willing to help you to learn. You will become a better debater.

The Bible has the answers that you need.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

Yes there was a "real answer". You do not get to make demands when you cannot understand the answers.

You sadly do not even know how to make proper demands.

I am willing to help you to learn. You will become a better debater.

I don't think that he will accept your offer because he would have to face the fact that creationism is wrong.

Based on what I've read in his posts thus far, I doubt that he would admit that creationism is wrong and renounce his beliefs in it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The Bible has the answers that you need.

I don't think so, and you definitely cannot support that claim. Let's work on claims that can be supported.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I don't think that he will accept your offer because he would have to face the fact that creationism is wrong.

Based on what I've read in his posts thus far, I doubt that he would admit that creationism is wrong and renounce his beliefs in it.

I know. Fear can warp a person's ability to reason. He may even be one of those extreme creationists that would rather believe that God is a liar than to accept reality.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

I know. Fear can warp a person's ability to reason. He may even be one of those extreme creationists that would rather believe that God is a liar than to accept reality.

I never have believed that God is a liar. I do not believe the myths of mankind.

 

[Jimmy]

I know. Fear can warp a person's ability to reason. He may even be one of those extreme creationists that would rather believe that God is a liar than to accept reality.

The only one with a warped sense of reality is the one that blindly believes what science feeds them.