Challenge for those that believe in billions of years for the age of things. Give anything that is more than 6000 years old. NO ASSUMPTIONS ALLOWED.

[Subduction Zone]

It is a fairly simple calculation. Adam and Eve are created on day 6. Then take all the ages in the genealogies adding the age that a father begat the named son. Then about 2000 years since the resurrection of Christ.

Well that is just loaded with assumptions, and you seem to hate those.


How do you deal with that fact?

 

[Little Dragon]

Then take all the ages in the genealogies adding the age that a father begat the named son. Then about 2000 years since the resurrection of Christ.

I am trying hard not to laugh here, but really? You seriously believe that is an objective method of dating?

 

[metis]

Read the already proven true Bible.

The Bible is not confirmable when it comes to prehistoric times.

BTW, is the Bhagavat Gita proven true iyo?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Read the already proven true Bible.

The Bible has never been proven. If anything the opposite is true.

 

[Little Dragon]

The Bible has never been proven. If anything the opposite is true.

As a historical account, I am sure it must be somewhat accurate in parts. However, what is in the Bible, that is connected with this world, that is so provable? I honestly have no clue what theists of this religion are referring to when they state this.

 

[Pete in Panama]

It is a fairly simple calculation. Adam and Eve are created on day 6. Then take all the ages in the genealogies adding the age that a father begat the named son. Then about 2000 years since the resurrection of Christ.

Of course we know that the earth was not created on day one, iirc that was day four. Some say that raises the question of the length of a day if there were no horizon but that's a separate issue. At any rate, pse let me know if there's any particular passage, set of passages, or is it just somewhere and you can't/won't say.

If you can't/won't say that's not a crime. Lot's of things I can't remember exactly; in fact it would probably take me some time to find exactly where the ten commandments are. Let's hope that you and I do not dispute whether there are ten commandments.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

Of course we know that the earth was not created on day one, iirc that was day four. Some say that raises the question of the length of a day if there were no horizon but that's a separate issue. At any rate, pse let me know if there's any particular passage, set of passages, or is it just somewhere and you can't/won't say.

If you can't/won't say that's not a crime. Lot's of things I can't remember exactly; in fact it would probably take me some time to find exactly where the ten commandments are. Let's hope that you and I do not dispute whether there are ten commandments.

Actually the earth was created on day 1.
Light was also created on and separated from darkness on day 1.
With the Earth spinning on its axis, the days are 24 hour days.
That is why each day ends with “And the evening and the morning were the first day.” And so on through the 6th day.

 

[Little Dragon]

With the Earth spinning on its axis, the days are 24 hour days.

The days have lengthened to 24 hours, today, as the rotational velocity of this planet has decreased over time, as kinetic energy is lost via gravitational waves and kinetic energy is also lost as angular momentum is gravitationally transferred to the Moon, which is now moving away from the Earth and will eventually leave the Earth's orbit altogether, by which time the days will be considerably longer than 24 hrs.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

The days have lengthened to 24 hours, today, as the rotational velocity of this planet has decreased over time, as kinetic energy is lost via gravitational waves and kinetic energy is also lost as angular momentum is gravitationally transferred to the Moon, which is now moving away from the Earth and will eventually leave the Earth's orbit altogether, by which time the days will be considerably longer than 24 hrs.

The Earth's rotation is slowing but 6000 years ago, a day was not much shorter than it is today,
The rest of your post is true, except God will make a new heaven and a new Earth and how that impacts things I do not know.

 

[Bthoth]

God will make a new heaven and a new Earth and how that impacts things I do not know.

Have you ever considered that what will be new will be the perspective?

For example: many consider the sky is blue but in truth it is black with little white dots about half the time.

Just like evolution, the life intends to survive and that is what drives the process, not random mutations.

The difference is how the perspective is viewed, not that a NEW heaven and NEW earth will be coming.

"We" live here in heaven as soon appreciating being alive, capable and conscious.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

Have you ever considered that what will be new will be the perspective?

For example: many consider the sky is blue but in truth it is black with little white dots about half the time.

Just like evolution, the life intends to survive and that is what drives the process, not random mutations.

The difference is how the perspective is viewed, not that a NEW heaven and NEW earth will be coming.

"We" live here in heaven as soon appreciating being alive, capable and conscious.

That does not match the scripture.

 

[Bthoth]

That does not match the scripture.

Nor does saving a life from cancer or C section for child birth.


""Have you ever considered that what will be new will be the perspective?"""

That is what the:

Isaiah 11:6

Young's Literal Translation

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6 And a wolf hath sojourned with a lamb, And a leopard with a kid doth lie down, And calf, and young lion, and fatling [are] together, And a little youth is leader over them.



That is what that scripture means, Reversal of nature/Change in perspective

 

[Little Dragon]

The rest of your post is true, except God will make a new heaven and a new Earth and how that impacts things I do not know.

Well that depends heavily on what happens to the old Earth and Heaven I guess.

 

[metis]

The Earth's rotation is slowing but 6000 years ago, a day was not much shorter than it is today,
The rest of your post is true, except God will make a new heaven and a new Earth and how that impacts things I do not know.

It's slowing at 1.8 milligrams per century, thus quite miniscule over 6000 years.

Earth's Days Are Getting 2 Milliseconds Longer Every 100 Years

Each year seems to go faster and faster, but astronomers have revealed that Earth's day has actually been getting longer.

www.sciencealert.com

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Not just Nebraska man.

Haeckel’s drawings were not accurate, yet his drawings are still used for evolution. Why the fraud?

Nebraska man was not a man. Why the fraud?

The Milken experiment is a disaster for evolutionists. Why the deception.

Beware of the old con “the building blocks of life”. Why the deception?

Tell us all that you know about these things. Show us how these falsify the theory of evolution. Show us that they are fruads and deceptions.

If you can't, then your claims are falsified forever.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Not even close. BTW, bat is last. Just listing fowl which at the time was any flying animal but nit insects.

What about pterodactyls? They must be OK to eat, since they aren't even on the list.

Who wants a drumstick?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Sorry the Miller experiment, which was a disaster for evolution.

Why? This was an experiment to demonstrate that amino acids could form under early Earth conditions. It wasn't an experiment about evolution. Explain in detail how it a disaster for evolution? Please use examples and cite references.

The apparatus was designed not random.

What does this mean?

It did not represent the Earth's early atmosphere.

How do you know?

Products were 50-50 racemic not all left handed.

What does racemic mean? Can you provide examples and explain why 50/50 is bad?

There were no long chains.

Long chains of what? Or did you mean log chains?

Only a few types of amino acids were produced.

What is the significance of that?

And products were removed into a trap quickly to keep them from being destroyed.

And what does that mean?

You gotta explain it in detail to us. According to your statements you know this stuff better than anyone on this forum and better than scientists in general.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Read the already proven true Bible.

So you are saying that Christians do not need faith. Then why do we talk about it all the time?

So bats are birds and insects have four legs and might be birds if they fly.

 

[Subduction Zone]

As a historical account, I am sure it must be somewhat accurate in parts. However, what is in the Bible, that is connected with this world, that is so provable? I honestly have no clue what theists of this religion are referring to when they state this.

That is true. I never said that it is totally false. For example there probably was a King David. That seems to be supported a bit. But the stories about him are all rather dubious. The older the Bible gets the less reliable it is. Which of course makes sense when it comes to history.

But it even fails rather badly in the New Testament. The birthdate of Jesus in Matthew and Luke are about ten years off from each other. And they have totally different rulers of Judea.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

That is true. I never said that it is totally false. For example there probably was a King David. That seems to be supported a bit. But the stories about him are all rather dubious. The older the Bible gets the less reliable it is. Which of course makes sense when it comes to history.

But it even fails rather badly in the New Testament. The birthdate of Jesus in Matthew and Luke are about ten years off from each other. And they have totally different rulers of Judea.

They do not give Christ's birthdate so please explain your reasoning.