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Challenge for those that believe in billions of years for the age of things. Give anything that is more than 6000 years old. NO ASSUMPTIONS ALLOWED.

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Until it is written somewhere or etched in stone.
And where are all the remains of all those prehistoric people and all their artifacts.
They were probably more intelligent than you, so where are all their tools,
I suspect it is down to numbers - of them being alive at the time. Unlike now, where we have expanded to dominate virtually all habitable land. Have you actually read any books on anthropology or are these assumed to be Satan's lies?
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
Too late. It was a very specific prophecy. You should read your Bible some day. Even good old Zeke realized that he failed...so he told another whopper that never happened.
You have no understanding of the Bible or prophecy.

However you do fulfill many prophecies from the Bible very many times with exact timing and exact detail.
You are living proof that the Bible is the true word of God.
Keep on fulfilling. Hallelujah and Praise the Lord.
 

Bthoth

Well-Known Member
I have proved that evolution could not answer a simple question.
Evolution is a process here in nature. Nothing more.

Even the bible itself is an evolution of doctrine, from genesis (torah) thru to revelation (New Test). That is why the term 'New' was used expressing the old model into the new. Perfect evidence of the 'evolution' of the religions doctrine.
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
Evolution is a process here in nature. Nothing more.

Even the bible itself is an evolution of doctrine, from genesis (torah) thru to revelation (New Test). That is why the term 'New' was used expressing the old model into the new. Perfect evidence of the 'evolution' of the religions doctrine.
It is true that the Bible is written about 3500 to 2000 years ago by about 40 authors inspired by God.
And these are in essence a rollout of new information with each book.
Many Christians make the mistake of not taking that into account when studying scripture and determining doctrine.
And yes the NT is distinct from the OT. The OT was the law and the promise of the sacrifice of Christ on the cross for the payment of the sins of all.
The NT is the record of that, the early history of the church and the doctrine of the church.
John the Baptist said this which shows the NT (grace) replaces the OT (law).

For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. - John 1:17
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You have no understanding of the Bible or prophecy.

However you do fulfill many prophecies from the Bible very many times with exact timing and exact detail.
You are living proof that the Bible is the true word of God.
Keep on fulfilling. Hallelujah and Praise the Lord.
Dude, no , that is you. I understand much better than you do because you make one clear error. You assume that the Bible is true no matter what.. That leads to an inability to understand the Bible. Once one understands what the Bible is on no longer has to jump through all sorts of hoops trying to defend the indefensible.

But if you want to discuss the Tyre prophecy I am happy to do so. You will never understand your errors but others will.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
It is true that the Bible is written about 3500 to 2000 years ago by about 40 authors inspired by God.
And these are in essence a rollout of new information with each book.
Many Christians make the mistake of not taking that into account when studying scripture and determining doctrine.
And yes the NT is distinct from the OT. The OT was the law and the promise of the sacrifice of Christ on the cross for the payment of the sins of all.
The NT is the record of that, the early history of the church and the doctrine of the church.
John the Baptist said this which shows the NT (grace) replaces the OT (law).

For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. - John 1:17
The oldest part of the Bible is maybe 2,800 years ago. Where do you get that 3,500 year claim from?
 

Bthoth

Well-Known Member
It is true that the Bible is written about 3500 to 2000 years ago by about 40 authors inspired by God.
Pharaoh was god 3500 yrs ago. Moses lived in his home, per bible/torah.
And these are in essence a rollout of new information with each book.
Evidence of an evolution (the process here in nature by man)
Many Christians make the mistake of not taking that into account when studying scripture and determining doctrine.
Yes, many make the same mistake (s)..... even in the current generations.
And yes the NT is distinct from the OT. The OT was the law and the promise of the sacrifice of Christ on the cross for the payment of the sins of all.
No sacrifice takes away or undoes sins. Keeping the the rules of personal responsibility is good no matter what time period. Try it!
The NT is the record of that, the early history of the church and the doctrine of the church.
reminds me of a true set of words: "Many Christians make the mistake of not taking that into account when studying scripture and determining doctrine."
John the Baptist said this which shows the NT (grace) replaces the OT (law).
The laws are still solid: ""18 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone. 19 You know the commandments: ‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, you shall not defraud, honor your father and mother.’
For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. - John 1:17

Jesus was graceful............. He knew, that HE was not the importance but that each should keep the rules. See above.
 

Bthoth

Well-Known Member
I see your lack of Biblical knowledge
Bible is not the last word on egyptian culture. I mentioned that pharaoh was god 3500 yrs ago and you replied with uneducated reply.

Per bible, Moses the initial man that per se wrote the commandments, and torah lived in the house of the pharoah (god of the time and culture of his birth).
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
Bible is not the last word on egyptian culture. I mentioned that pharaoh was god 3500 yrs ago and you replied with uneducated reply.

Per bible, Moses the initial man that per se wrote the commandments, and torah lived in the house of the pharoah (god of the time and culture of his birth).
Mose was 40 when he left Egypt the first time. Went back to Egypt when God sent them the plagues. Then after that at the age of 80 got the 10 commandants .
 

Bthoth

Well-Known Member
Mose was 40 when he left Egypt the first time.
But per torah, which is claimed to be by him. He was born and raised in egypt and lived in the 'house of pharaoh
Went back to Egypt when God sent them the plagues. Then after that at the age of 80 got the 10 commandants .
Moses never left the lands of egypt and even mt Sinai is of egypt. Again, the bible is not the last word. and by combining historical records of the time period even your knowledge could evolve beyond your beliefs
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
But per torah, which is claimed to be by him. He was born and raised in egypt and lived in the 'house of pharaoh

Moses never left the lands of egypt and even mt Sinai is of egypt. Again, the bible is not the last word. and by combining historical records of the time period even your knowledge could evolve beyond your beliefs
Moses after he got 10 commandments went back to Egypt And he got all the law directly from God.
 

Monty

Active Member
Moses after he got 10 commandments went back to Egypt And he got all the law directly from God.
What evidence do you have that Moses went back to Egypt after aimlessly wandering around in the middle eastern deserts for forty years looking for the promised land with four million or so members of his family - or so the story goes?
 
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Monty

Active Member
It is true that the Bible is written about 3500 to 2000 years ago by about 40 authors inspired by God.
And these are in essence a rollout of new information with each book.
Many Christians make the mistake of not taking that into account when studying scripture and determining doctrine.
And yes the NT is distinct from the OT. The OT was the law and the promise of the sacrifice of Christ on the cross for the payment of the sins of all.
The NT is the record of that, the early history of the church and the doctrine of the church.
John the Baptist said this which shows the NT (grace) replaces the OT (law).

For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. - John 1:17
Jesus, however, said that every jot and tittle of OT law still applies till heaven and earth pass when all is fulfilled (Matt 5:17-19), including the commandments to abort the pregnancies of adulteresses (Lev 20:10 Numbers 5:20-28).
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
Jesus, however, said that every jot and tittle of OT law still applies till heaven and earth pass when all is fulfilled (Matt 5:17-19), including the commandments to abort the pregnancies of adulteresses (Lev 20:10 Numbers 5:20-28).
Yes if you do not trust in His grace you will be condemned by the law.

For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. - Romans 6:14
 
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