Charlie Hebdo hatecartoonist stops doing what he did

[Shadow Wolf]

As a very committed leftist, one would think they'd have told me about this conspiracy.

He seems to not comprehend the far-leftists tend to not tolerate such acts of violence and control through force. We also tend to want to keep religion entirely and completely out of politics.
But, then again, Shivafan is one of the many that does not even know what the term socialism, left-wing, and liberalism means. Where he gets this conspiracy alliance between the far-left and far-right is beyond.

 

[Mycroft]

Hello, is that the police?
Yeah. They have drawings now.
Yeah.
Ok.
I'll be waiting outside crying.

 

[Debater Slayer]

There is something very sinister and concerning about the fact that the cases of Waleed al-Husseini, Hamza Kashgari, and Raif Badawi didn't provoke any protests in the Muslim world, yet some satirical cartoons inspired thousands of people to protest and led to a violent backlash from Islamic militants.

The Muslim world is in dire need of an enlightenment era. The problem is not just with the Charlie Hebdo attacks; the problem is with the religious mindset of the Muslim world.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Muslims would never draw Xena to anger the Xenanians and call that freedom of speech.

Right. They'd NOT draw something, and call THAT freedom of speech??
Meh, regardless, methinks you're avoiding the question.

Incidentally, anytime you think you're speaking for 1.6 billion Muslims, you're wrong by definition.
This applies just as much to you as it does to people who apply ridiculous 'Muslims=terrorists' tropes.

 

[JFish123]

Liberals in power shy away from the word Islamic terrorism because they don't want to offend people. Meanwhile Christians are being beheaded left and right. The difference between islam and Christianity is in one video where ISIS is be heading Egyptian Coptic Christians and before they do the Christians are praising Jesus and forgiving there executioners. THATS the difference between Christianity and islam. Period.

 

[Kirran]

Liberals in power shy away from the word Islamic terrorism because they don't want to offend people. Meanwhile Christians are being beheaded left and right. The difference between islam and Christianity is in one video where ISIS is be heading Egyptian Coptic Christians and before they do the Christians are praising Jesus and forgiving there executioners. THATS the difference between Christianity and islam. Period.

I don't feel it's fair to characterise 1.6 billion and 2.2 billion people by one video.

 

[JFish123]

I don't feel it's fair to characterise 1.6 billion and 2.2 billion people by one video.

Not judging the people. Just the religion itself. Anybody can call themselves Christians or Muslims and do evil things. But what both religions teach are very different then one another on violence and forgiveness.

 

[dust1n]

As far as insulting gays, I stand by my position that there is some really sick fan club going on between the far left and Islamic extremists. Sometimes, the far left tries to pretend they care about gays - I predict if they succeed in setting up their leftist dictatorship they will blame the failures of their despotism on gays, jews, etc., and will start to put gays in the gulags and gas chambers.

You know, living in one of the most of the liberal cities in the country, there sure are a lot of white hipsters, cop hating black people and extreme Muslims, in tandem, beating gay Jews to death around here.

 

[Kirran]

Not judging the people. Just the religion itself. Anybody can call themselves Christians or Muslims and do evil things. But what both religions teach are very different then one another on violence and forgiveness.

Christianity doesn't preach violence? Ever? Islam never preaches peace and tolerance?

 

[JFish123]

Christianity doesn't preach violence? Ever? Islam never preaches peace and tolerance?

Christianity doesn't preach violence if so show me. Islam preaches peace when there the minority. When majority they conquer and impose sharia law. It's the 3 stages of jihad in the religion.

 

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[Kirran]

Exodus 21:29 - if an ox gores someone, its owner should be killed.

Exodus 35:2 - a man who works on the Sabbath should be put to death.

Leviticus 20:14 - if a man marries a woman and her mother, all three should be burnt to death.

Of course, modern Christians understand this as contextual, allegorical, subtle. As it should be.

There are many Muslims who do the same with the Qur'an.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Exodus 21:29 - if an ox gores someone, its owner should be killed.

Exodus 35:2 - a man who works on the Sabbath should be put to death.

Leviticus 20:14 - if a man marries a woman and her mother, all three should be burnt to death.

Of course, modern Christians understand this as contextual, allegorical, subtle. As it should be.

There are many Muslims who do the same with the Qur'an.

Kind of a shame many don't seem to bother applying this mindset to other verses in the Mosaic books...

 

[JFish123]

Exodus 21:29 - if an ox gores someone, its owner should be killed.

Exodus 35:2 - a man who works on the Sabbath should be put to death.

Leviticus 20:14 - if a man marries a woman and her mother, all three should be burnt to death.

Of course, modern Christians understand this as contextual, allegorical, subtle. As it should be.

There are many Muslims who do the same with the Qur'an.

I see all quotes that are not from Jesus which the religion is based on. Muhammad which the religion is based on actually did those things like kill people. Again there's a clear difference. If Christians followed jesus, turn the other cheek, go the extra mile, forgive those who insult and hurt or even kill you. Follow what Muhammad said and did and....
Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".
Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."
Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."
Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"
See the difference?

 

[Kirran]

I see all quotes that are not from Jesus which the religion is based on. Muhammad which the religion is based on actually did those things like kill people. Again there's a clear difference. If Christians followed jesus, turn the other cheek, go the extra mile, forgive those who insult and hurt or even kill you. Follow what Muhammad said and did and....
Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".
Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."
Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."
Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"
See the difference?

All taken out of context. Many Muslims will argue these verses apply only to a very specific circumstance.

Jesus said he was there to uphold the Old Testament.

Also, look at the fact that there are pious Muslims who do not go around killing unbelievers.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Of course, modern Christians understand this as contextual, allegorical, subtle. As it should be.
There are many Muslims who do the same with the Qur'an.

But sadly not all Muslims, who seem to be lagging behind somewhat.

 

[Kirran]

But sadly not all Muslims, who seem to be lagging behind somewhat.

No argument there.

I'd really like to see them growing up a little faster.