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Charlie Hebdo to attack Muslims again

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
So, assuming you don't only care about the sensibilities of Muslim, what you really want is the (re-)instatement of blasphemy laws? You should have made (or probably should make) the OP about that question. You'd get backlash either way, as getting rid of such laws has widely been seen as positive move for freedom of speech, but it won't have (had) the same emotional response as it is not directly connected to the murder of 12 people.
I am for the blasphemy law yes, it was a shame they removed it.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
And again you accuse filth without even knowing the content. Interesting don't you think?

As has been mentioned several times. Why should non Muslims be subject to Muslim dogma. France is a free country where freedom of expression is a given.

They are not flinging muck as you like to put what you know nothing about. They are expressing their freedom. No muslim needs to read the mag, no muslim needs to kill someone for eating pork, why should they kill them for expressing their freedom.

Re your daughter... on june 15 1996 i was walking in to Manchester with my aunt. The ira had decided it would be good to blow up market street. We were on shude hill when the explosion went off. The pressure wave embedded slivers of brick into my eye and thumb joint, very painful but minor. The explosion also dislodged slates from roofs nearby. I watched with my good eye as my aunt fussed check what damage i had received as a falling slate carved the flesh off her arm from shoulder to elbow to the bone.

Dog you think i blame all Irish? No but terrorism sickens me.

Drawing cartoons legally is not terrorism. Killing people in the name of religion is
Come on. We read the newspapers here, so to call me or us ignorant about what happened is a stretch.

And once again, I can tell you for sure that that mag would not be allowed to publish those nasty pics here. So clearly our culture here does differ from the French.

Ref the Manchester terror blast. 15/06/96, phew!
I forget the date now but I was in Guildford when that pub bomb went off circa 1973.

On the other side of the coin I knew a bad DS cop who boasted that he had led much of the investigation work on to the Birmingham pub bombers. I never liked or trusted him. When all those convicted were eventually acquitted, pardoned, released, he soon shut up about it.

I'm sad that those pics are published again, it shows me how different our culture is to the French culture.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
And once again, I can tell you for sure that that mag would not be allowed to publish those nasty pics here. So clearly our culture here does differ from the French.

I'm sad that those pics are published again, it shows me how different our culture is to the French culture.

Yes, France had a revolution for freedom, the uk is slowly removing human rights.
 

ppp

Well-Known Member
I am for the blasphemy law yes, it was a shame they removed it.

And that is why we draw Mohammed and should keep doing so. To remind people like you that religious beliefs do not bind the unwilling.

You are free to have your opinion of me as a person, but you do not know me, not do I know you.
None of which is relevant. You made a statement. I responded appropriately.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
So every time you or anyone else digs against atheism does that person warrant being stoned to death?
No of course atheists are not supposed to be stoned, not should others be stoned or killed. But I do hold the view that making blasphemy comment toward religion is wrong.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Are you for burning witches too ?
Let’s all go back to the Dark Ages !
When men were real men and women were their submissive property !
Yay !
I live in 2020, I am not for harming others. Islam has nothing to do with dark ages, and I do not see a problem if a person chose to be personal believer in Islam. But of course I do not support terror
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
OMG.

If that happens I will become an anti Muslim terrorist, to protect future generations.

Only joking ?

Better to work in protecting the future generations from diseases such as the tiny viruses
that can kill millions on earth and paralyzes the economy than talking about nonsense.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
No of course atheists are not supposed to be stoned, not should others be stoned or killed. But I do hold the view that making blasphemy comment toward religion is wrong.

But it ok to ridicule atheists, to deliberately misrepresent them, to shun them, to call then evil and full of sin, to condemn them to hell and in some cases, execute them. Whereas the same in reverse is considered blasphemy, causes uproar, protests and waves of anti atheist hatted.

Fair is fair.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
But it ok to ridicule atheists, to deliberately misrepresent them, to shun them, to call then evil and full of sin, to condemn them to hell and in some cases, execute them. Whereas the same in reverse is considered blasphemy, causes uproar, protests and waves of anti atheist hatted.

Fair is fair.
I can only speak for my self to your post.
I do not think harming atheists is any better then harming anyone else.
Yes I disagree often with atheists views and words.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I do not respect bullies.
Regardless of how bad you are at it.
I think our friend has difficulty getting across his point about
being pained by Muslims being insulted. Anger at those who
dis Islam doesn't justify terrorism, but he got off on the wrong
foot by not initially condemning that. So some mistakenly
presumed his tacit approval of terrorism. His focus on respecting
Islam also appeared to condone dissing other religions.
By then the die was cast. Let's try to understand his concern,
rather than beat him in an argument.
 

Howard Is

Lucky Mud
I live in 2020, I am not for harming others. Islam has nothing to do with dark ages, and I do not see a problem if a person chose to be personal believer in Islam. But of course I do not support terror

How will blasphemy laws work ?
Will Muslims be convicted if they say anything offensive to ANY other religion ?

Or is it purely to protect Islam ?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
How will blasphemy laws work ?
Will Muslims be convicted if they say anything offensive to ANY other religion ?

Or is it purely to protect Islam ?
It will of course be equal to everyone. A law should be there to protect those who are religious or spiritual from any teaching.
 

McBell

Unbound
I think our friend has difficulty getting across his point about
being pained by Muslims being insulted. Anger at those who
dis Islam doesn't justify terrorism, but he got off on the wrong
foot by not initially condemning that. So some mistakenly
presumed his tacit approval of terrorism. By then the die
was cast. Let's try to understand his concern, rather than
beat him in an argument.
I am addressing his concern.
He claims we all should bow down to bullies.

I completely disagree with bowing down to bullies.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
It's my view of the cartoon

But you also said that it should be illegal.
So clearly you think it's more then just your opinion...

Obviously you are allowed to have your opinion about said cartoons as it concerns taste, quality, etc.
It seems though, that you get upset about people not sharing your particular opinion.

And last but not least, your opinion of a cartoon isn't really relevant when it comes to the rights of a cartoonist to create said cartoon, right?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I can only speak for my self to your post.
I do not think harming atheists is any better then harming anyone else.
Yes I disagree often with atheists views and words.

Yes you have posted anti atheist threads that are hurtful to atheists

And some people disagree with the muslim dogma that insists non muslims are subject to their dogma under threat of death
 
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