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Charlie Hebdo 'wins' the Islamophobia Award 2015

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Really ? :p why Israel is not a part of coalition ? are they not the best ally of US in the region ? why Britain the most powerful military of NATO is not a part of coalition ? Maybe they have some secrets about ISIS which is not known by others ? :rolleyes:
It's probably more reasonable to assume that the world in general wants to give these countries a chance to irradicate ISIS on their own without getting involved too much. Definitely makes a lot more sense than an unsubstantiated conspiracy theory, don't you think?
 

NoX

Active Member
It's probably more reasonable to assume that the world in general wants to give these countries a chance to irradicate ISIS on their own without getting involved too much. Definitely makes a lot more sense than an unsubstantiated conspiracy theory, don't you think?

LoL thanks for the chance the World gave us :p how bad, appearently we could not use it properly, now its time for you to get involved in Syria. You lucky big bellied Briton :blush:
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
LoL thanks for the chance the World gave us :p how bad, appearently we could not use it properly, now its time for you to get involved in Syria. You lucky big bellied Briton :blush:
I'm from the US. Winston Churchill is just my hero.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Your hero is one of the biggest terrorists of the World history :rolleyes: so in this case you are a .............noo stop thereee :eek:
Care to elaborate on that outlandish claim? He saved Western Civilization from destruction by Germany ... not too shaby. Don't know anything that he did that could be considered terrorism, but I'm all ears.
 

NoX

Active Member
Care to elaborate on that outlandish claim? He saved Western Civilization from destruction by Germany ... not too shaby. Don't know anything that he did that could be considered terrorism, but I'm all ears.

He is the person who says "Using poison gas on people is a war crime but you can use it on Turks, because Turks are not humans." and who says "A drop of oil is much more valuable than a drop of human blood."

OMG what a hero :tonguewink:
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
He is the person who says "Using poison gas on people is a war crime but you can use it on Turks, because Turks are not humans." and who says "A drop of oil is much more valuable than a drop of human blood."

OMG what a hero :tonguewink:
1. The comment where he stated that a drop of oil was more valuable than a drop of blood was an illustration of how important energy sources were during WWI and II. You can take it out of context and get the meaning that you want, but it was very true. He was saying that oil provided more political power than massive armies, as armies cannot be successful without it. It was true then, and it is still true today, although now technology could take it's place. I fail to see anything immoral with this statement. If you just do a bit of studying the history/context behind the statement, I'm sure you will feel the same way.

2. Again, you took the other comment about poison gas. Any reasonable person wth knowledge of what the Allies were up against in the Germans would agree that Churchill was forced to use "all out war." It is easy to see where he was coming from, and I am very happy that he made this decision. One that obviously haunted him for some time. Decisions like this, putting morality aside to save the world from Hitler, are what make him the hero I admire so much. Read below, and you will see the context of this statement.

GENERAL ISMAY FOR C.O.S. COMMITTEE [underlined]

1. I want you to think very seriously over this question of poison gas. I would not use it unless it could be shown either that (a) it was life or death for us, or (b) that it would shorten the war by a year.

2. It is absurd to consider morality on this topic when everybody used it in the last war without a word of complaint from the moralists or the Church. On the other hand, in the last war bombing of open cities was regarded as forbidden. Now everybody does it as a matter of course. It is simply a question of fashion changing as she does between long and short skirts for women.

3. I want a cold-blooded calculation made as to how it would pay us to use poison gas, by which I mean principally mustard. We will want to gain more ground in Normandy so as not to be cooped up in a small area. We could probably deliver 20 tons to their 1 and for the sake of the 1 they would bring their bomber aircraft into the area against our superiority, thus paying a heavy toll.

4. Why have the Germans not used it? Not certainly out of moral scruples or affection for us. They have not used it because it does not pay them. The greatest temptation ever offered to them was the beaches of Normandy. This they could have drenched with gas greatly to the hindrance of the troops. That they thought about it is certain and that they prepared against our use of gas is also certain. But they only reason they have not used it against us is that they fear the retaliation. What is to their detriment is to our advantage.

5. Although one sees how unpleasant it is to receive poison gas attacks, from which nearly everyone recovers, it is useless to protest that an equal amount of H. E. will not inflict greater casualties and sufferings on troops and civilians. One really must not be bound within silly conventions of the mind whether they be those that ruled in the last war or those in reverse which rule in this.

6. If the bombardment of London became a serious nuisance and great rockets with far-reaching and devastating effect fell on many centres of Government and labour, I should be prepared to do [underline] anything [stop underline] that would hit the enemy in a murderous place. I may certainly have to ask you to support me in using poison gas. We could drench the cities of the Ruhr and many other cities in Germany in such a way that most of the population would be requiring constant medical attention. We could stop all work at the flying bomb starting points. I do not see why we should have the disadvantages of being the gentleman while they have all the advantages of being the cad. There are times when this may be so but not now.

7. I quite agree that it may be several weeks or even months before I shall ask you to drench Germany with poison gas, and if we do it, let us do it one hundred per cent. In the meanwhile, I want the matter studied in cold blood by sensible people and not by that particular set of psalm-singing uniformed defeatists which one runs across now here now there. Pray address yourself to this. It is a big thing and can only be discarded for a big reason. I shall of course have to square Uncle Joe and the President; but you need not bring this into your calculations at the present time. Just try to find out what it is like on its merits.

[signed] Winston Churchill [initials]
 

NoX

Active Member
1. The comment where he stated that a drop of oil was more valuable than a drop of blood was an illustration of how important energy sources were during WWI and II. You can take it out of context and get the meaning that you want, but it was very true. He was saying that oil provided more political power than massive armies, as armies cannot be successful without it. It was true then, and it is still true today, although now technology could take it's place. I fail to see anything immoral with this statement. If you just do a bit of studying the history/context behind the statement, I'm sure you will feel the same way.............................................


So you mean he was quite fair to use poison gas :confused: then Saddam Husein was the World's most innocent person :oops:
 

NoX

Active Member
By the way I have got a new information right now. The intelligence member person who helped three French girls to pass into Syria to join ISIS, is a Canadian :rolleyes: actually he is a Syrian but with Canada passport.
 

Juhurka

Member
He is the person who says "Using poison gas on people is a war crime but you can use it on Turks, because Turks are not humans." and who says "A drop of oil is much more valuable than a drop of human blood."

OMG what a hero :tonguewink:


I'm not Turkish or British but I see nothing wrong with his words. Turks can't really complain that they are being treated unfairly because Ottomans/Turks were known for abusing minorities and when to this day turkey refuses to even acknowledge that they ever committed such acts its hard to take you seriously or have any positive feelings towards Turkey.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
By the way I have got a new information right now. The intelligence member person who helped three French girls to pass into Syria to join ISIS, is a Canadian :rolleyes: actually he is a Syrian but with Canada passport.
What's your point? There are tons of people from all over the world helping ISIS. They are all collectively the scum of the earth.
 

Juhurka

Member
Do you say that as an Egyptian person ? :p you destroyed democracy in your country, you have destroyed a government chosen by the majority of Egypt people :eek: Someones are trying to do same in Turkiye by destroying President Erdogan but what they forget about it that we are Turks with slant eyes and double hearts :p I'm gonna tell you more delusional things, we are so strong in Egypt too and you will understand what I mean in the future :rolleyes:

Long live Armenia and Kurdistan, long live brotherhood of nations :heart:

No, I say that as a proud Jew and yes I despise erdogan, it's never good when people die but I will through a party when erdogan dies. He is a delusional hypocrite with a fascist mentality who kills people just because they think different. He helps ISIS and blames it on the Jews, he humiliates Armenians kills Kurds and than complains calls others nazis. I hate everything erdogan stands for.
 

Juhurka

Member
LoL jewo :yum: So what I say is conspiracy but Charlie Hebdo attack was done by Muslims is fact ? :neutral: then prove me that they were Muslims ? :rolleyes:

Comments like this just proves that the muslim world is full of hate and losers. Despicable people who are so blinded by hate that they cant even see that they are destroying them self's. As things are going right now, I cannot wait for the muslim world to destroy it self you can all kill each other and I wont shed a tear. How convenient it is for you to kill people and once you get caught you say it was the jews, makes my blood boil, Bunch of losers and a low life civilization.
 

Juhurka

Member
Jewo means Jewish :smile: an acronym, I found it :p I'm an open minded person and ready for proofs, but you cant prove anything, there are no proofs, there are just clues.

Jew jew jewwoo jeww, LoL I m gonna make a guitar song for you, beautiful melodies comes to my mind :rolleyes:

I cant wait for November to celebrate a holiday and eat some turkey for launch, get together with my Jewish family and eat some turkey and sing a song, turkey turkey oops there goes your head chopped off and straight to the oven.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
So you mean he was quite fair to use poison gas :confused: then Saddam Husein was the World's most innocent person :oops:
Well, you obviously need to study up on this subject. The allies never used poison gas during WW2, so I there is no correlation between the two. Churchill merely expressed the urgency of obliterating the Nazis to save Western Civilization. You have provided no evidence apart from out of context quotes to the contrary.

Further, you are either saying that Saddam had a ratonal reason for using poison or that the Nazis should have been left alone, since the Allies did not use poison gas during WW2.
 

NoX

Active Member
I'm not Turkish or British but I see nothing wrong with his words. Turks can't really complain that they are being treated unfairly because Ottomans/Turks were known for abusing minorities (1) and when to this day turkey refuses to even acknowledge that they ever committed such acts its hard to take you seriously or have any positive feelings towards Turkey.

Conspiracy theory 1 , we have never abused minotiries, if we were abusing minorities, today almost half of the World would speak Turkish :p



No, I say that as a proud Jew and yes I despise erdogan, it's never good when people die but I will through a party when erdogan dies. He is a delusional hypocrite with a fascist mentality who kills people just because they think different (2) He helps ISIS and blames it on the Jews (3), he humiliates Armenians kills Kurds and than complains calls others nazis (4). I hate everything erdogan stands for.

Cospiracy theory 2-3-4, our president is a nice man and perfect leader. You need to prove your conspiracy theories :smile:



Comments like this just proves that the muslim world is full of hate and losers. Despicable people who are so blinded by hate that they cant even see that they are destroying them self's. As things are going right now, I cannot wait for the muslim world to destroy it self you can all kill each other and I wont shed a tear. How convenient it is for you to kill people and once you get caught you say it was the jews, makes my blood boil, Bunch of losers and a low life civilization.

LoL you said "Turks should not complain about genocidal attempts against them", you said "your president is delusional hypocrite faschist, I hate him." , you said "Turks are abusers." you said "Muslim people are blinded despicable losers.", you said "I'm waiting for all Muslims to kill each other." , then I said Jewoo jewww LoL

and as a result of this conversation, I ve been declared as "hater", and you stepped out of it as an "innocent jewo" LoooooooL :tearsofjoy:
 

NoX

Active Member
I cant wait for November to celebrate a holiday and eat some turkey for launch, get together with my Jewish family and eat some turkey and sing a song, turkey turkey oops there goes your head chopped off and straight to the oven.

I love turkey too, nomnomnommm, but as boiled or on the grid with a bit olive oil, some roasted potatoes, some salad and a cup of buttermilk, mmmmmmmmmmm, but I dont sing songs while eating :blush: alhamdulillah
 

NoX

Active Member
What's your point? There are tons of people from all over the world helping ISIS. They are all collectively the scum of the earth.

But the point he was an agent, not a normal terrorist, he is a terrorist working for Canada.


Well, you obviously need to study up on this subject. The allies never used poison gas during WW2, so I there is no correlation between the two. Churchill merely expressed the urgency of obliterating the Nazis to save Western Civilization. You have provided no evidence apart from out of context quotes to the contrary.

Further, you are either saying that Saddam had a ratonal reason for using poison or that the Nazis should have been left alone, since the Allies did not use poison gas during WW2.

Yes, I need to study more about World Wars :flushed: but probably this wont change my views about Churchill. His purpose was not only to save Britain from Nazis. His purpose was to speed up the collapse of Ottoman and taking Turks under control, therefore dominating the ME.:relieved:

According to his archive in London, he says "Turks will never be destroyed complately, those who tries to do that , will be prevented by British army. Turkiye will continue to live as a country connected to Britain, because those who control Turkiye, control the ME." $$$ :hearteyes:

Today what our president does, is cleaning up Turkiye from Britons and some others(?). This is why some US newspapers, all of UK newspapers and some other (?) newspapers attack continuously Erdogan. Media and Money is the most important two tools to control the World.
 
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