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Child Sacrafice

Evandr

Stripling Warrior
Sooo...your answer to the question in the OP is "yes"?

Again, there are two questions; on the question would I keep the commandment - yes, most assuredly; would I murder someone? - NO, I would not.

If I was acting in complete authority and under the watchful eye of God as an instrument in His hands to accomplish His purposes at His undeniable and direct command then dispatching the life of another back through the veil would not be murder.
 

Jacksnyte

Reverend
Not so, the question shifted its focus in an attempt to vilify the faithful. In it Jacksnyte asked "If commanded" and then queried "would you murder". Murder does not fit, Abraham was not going to murder Isaac because the Lord would have had a hand in the whole event, there would have been no unrighteousness as the word "murder" implies.

Thank you for checking my spelling, slips do occure :eek:
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No, Jacksnyte did not!
 

Primordial Annihilator

Well-Known Member
If god came to you to tell you that you must sacrafice your first child. If you don't you will never have children again. That all the land you live in will be cursed. That the people of the land will know that this judgement has fallen on them because of you. Would you offer up your child as a sacrafic, murder you child to save the land?

No I would tell him to go f himself and run off somewhere.
 

Jacksnyte

Reverend
Again, there are two questions; on the question would I keep the commandment - yes, most assuredly; would I murder someone? - NO, I would not.

If I was acting in complete authority and under the watchful eye of God as an instrument in His hands to accomplish His purposes at His undeniable and direct command then dispatching the life of another back through the veil would not be murder.

Do you know how many people over the years have been locked in institutions for the criminally insane for following the same line of thinking you just outlined? Murder is murder. Period. It doesn't matter what kind of pretty theological bow you try and wrap it in, it is still the same ugly awful murder.
 

Primordial Annihilator

Well-Known Member
Not so, the question shifted its focus in an attempt to vilify the faithful. In it Jacksnyte asked "If commanded" and then queried "would you murder". Murder does not fit, Abraham was not going to murder Isaac because the Lord would have had a hand in the whole event, there would have been no unrighteousness as the word "murder" implies.

Thank you for checking my spelling, slips do occure :eek:

Yes the Nazi SS commanders used that old chesnut in the Hague...

I voz only following ze orders!

They were hung anyway..and good riddance!
 

Primordial Annihilator

Well-Known Member
If I found anyone about to sacrifice their child because they had been commanded to by their God.

I would knock them out and then have them sectioned under the mental health act.
 

Jacksnyte

Reverend
If I found anyone about to sacrifice their child because they had been commanded to by their God.

I would knock them out and then have them sectioned under the mental health act.

I would stop them by whatever means I felt necessary at the time(I own several swords :) ). Children are our most precious recource! There is absolutely no reason to ever hurt (much less kill) a child!
 

Corkscrew

I'm ready to believe
How would you go about verifying that the entity who asked you to do this was actually God? I assume you would want to make damn sure of that before you start offing your kid. It seems to me that it would be much more likely that you are just out of your mind and hearing voices. I think I would first try seeing a shrink.
 

MurphtheSurf

Active Member
If god came to you to tell you that you must sacrafice your first child. If you don't you will never have children again. That all the land you live in will be cursed. That the people of the land will know that this judgement has fallen on them because of you. Would you offer up your child as a sacrafic, murder you child to save the land?


This is what the Canaanites were doing when the Israelites moved into the Promised land. This is the reason Jehovah gave orders to eliminate them from the land. But that is another and more complex story.
 

Jacksnyte

Reverend
This is what the Canaanites were doing when the Israelites moved into the Promised land. This is the reason Jehovah gave orders to eliminate them from the land. But that is another and more complex story.

That has been a charge levelled at various ethnic and religious groups throughout the centuries. Christians claimed this about Jews, Cathars, Bogomils, etc. It is a convenient excuse to kill everybody and take their stuff!
 

Primordial Annihilator

Well-Known Member
It seems to me that it would be much more likely that you are just out of your mind and hearing voices.

Its amazing just how much revered biblical characters get up to (sacrifice, incest, murder, genocide etc..) that by today's standards would be considered insane and or sociopathic.
 

Thesavorofpan

Is not going to save you.
If god came to you to tell you that you must sacrafice your first child. If you don't you will never have children again. That all the land you live in will be cursed. That the people of the land will know that this judgement has fallen on them because of you. Would you offer up your child as a sacrafic, murder you child to save the land?

Don't take it personal son...but I'm going to have to sacafice you know? Want me to get you drunk or maybe spend some time with a hooker or two? Huh?????
 

Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
If god came to you to tell you that you must sacrafice your first child. If you don't you will never have children again. That all the land you live in will be cursed. That the people of the land will know that this judgement has fallen on them because of you. Would you offer up your child as a sacrafic, murder you child to save the land?
Well if you know anything about children. I say that this is God is very experienced and wise.
me? I'll take the advice before hand and use contraceptions.
 
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