And adoption is for free...
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Childless millennials / Gen Z
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Altfish
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Or Grandparents
TagliatelliMonster
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Why would I require a nanny?
If there weren't grandparents who wanted to take care of the babies, they'ld simply go to daycare 5 days.
I know MANY people with children. NONE of them have a nanny.
EDIT: come to think of it... back when my eldest was in daycare... another baby there was the kid of a famous soccer player. Like, a world class Red Devil / premier league soccer player who was earning like 250k per week.... During the summer months, his wife came to Belgium. Even that dude didn't have a nanny....................................
Doesn't sound like it.No...I live in the 21st century.
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TagliatelliMonster
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Or none and just go to one of the bazillion of daycare centers....
Don't these exist in other countries? I don't think it's a uniquely Belgian concept.
Thanks to the Brussels dictatorship...there are not public daycare centers any more...Or none and just go to one of the bazillion of daycare centers....
Don't these exist in other countries? I don't think it's a uniquely Belgian concept.
I mean...the criminal system called EURO imposes drastic measures on us...and Anti-Natalism is just a consequence.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
That makes no sense at all as euro laws, whatever ones you are referring to, apply to all EU countries. Which would include Belgium.
My village alone, of just over 10k citizens, has 5 daycare centers + a bunch of other alternatives for pre-school child care.
So excuse me while I, once again, call BS on your wild claims.
If anything, I smell a great business opportunity for where you live.
RestlessSoul
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Or none and just go to one of the bazillion of daycare centers....
Don't these exist in other countries? I don't think it's a uniquely Belgian concept.
In the UK, you have to pay for childcare. And it costs a lot, so heaven help young parents who don't have extended families to help out.
As long as one wasn't gay,In the Reagan age?
USA was a paradise back then.
or had a run-in with cops.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
In the US, if you want a closed adoption, you need to do an international adoption which is not free. If you want an open adoption in the US, you can take your chances and work things out between the mom and you.And adoption is for free...
Not many adoptions in the US are "free."
Beatings, discrimination, prosecution.
It abounded.
Movies don't always reflect reality.
It's absolutely untrue.
Quite the opposite.
Gays have always been respected since the forties when Fascism ended.
You are confusing Italy with Britain.
Not here.And adoption is for free...
My sister put her first up for adoption. She knew the couple she wanted it to go to. No reason why it shouldn't have been cut and dried.
But the couple wasn't wealthy. They couldn't afford the 5k it took to sign the paperwork. The adoption process drug out into years...
From someone who never even visited here,It's absolutely untrue.
Quite the opposite.
Gays have always been respected since the forties when Fascism ended.
You are confusing Italy with Britain.
you sure do claim a whole lot of expertise
about here.
I don't need to visit the United States to know that American National TV has banned profanity and nudity.
In our state-owned media you can find profanity, female nudity and sexual references.
I have to add one can't assume grandparents are going to step in and help(or other family, for that matter).
I worked about 30 hours a week when my oldest child was 3-5(I was a single parent during these years). It was like pulling teeth to find someone to watch him. My mom very seldom would. My dad had a job and was gone most of the time. Other family wasn't thrilled and wouldn't usually help.
To put him in daycare would have matched my income.
Luckily, I eventually ended up having some roommates who would help.
Not all grandparents are available. And if they are, not all care.
I worked about 30 hours a week when my oldest child was 3-5(I was a single parent during these years). It was like pulling teeth to find someone to watch him. My mom very seldom would. My dad had a job and was gone most of the time. Other family wasn't thrilled and wouldn't usually help.
To put him in daycare would have matched my income.
Luckily, I eventually ended up having some roommates who would help.
Not all grandparents are available. And if they are, not all care.
amorphous_constellation
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I think it's really great that you could do that, but again, I don't think most people think on that level of timescale detail. In the dating market, or partnership market, I can't imagine someone looking at me when I was in my 20's, knowing that I wouldn't be able to afford a house or kid for another 10 plus years, and then sticking with me for all that time, in order to get those things way later.. That's just a lot of time to sink into the thing, a lot of waiting. And it's known that becoming a parent could happen during that time, without anyone intending it. I imagined I would have to have my life/career on a really good track earlier on, to have the ability I may need, to support a wife and kids earlier on
Then again, I guess there's not one way of doing it.. If I had a wife at that time who was really building a big career, possibly to make more than whatever I was doing, then I think I can see how they might want to delay it, until the 30's.
What percentage of all this do you think is about 'chance..' I seems like chance plays some big possible role in all this, and I don't like it really. You come off as someone who was able to plan a lot, and plan well, but it seems like anything could happen a lot of times
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TagliatelliMonster
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It's not exactly cheap here either, but subsidised. You get around 40% refund in the next year through taxes
TagliatelliMonster
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Don't really get what you are saying... The vast majority of people are in that same boat at the start of there careers.... Nobody comes out of school able to immediately buy a house, unless you have rich parents who also hand out money. That accounts for maybe one percent of people...
Sounds like you are talking about gold diggers or somethinf
amorphous_constellation
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Well nevermind.. I just know that the whole topic of marriage and topics around it can have very diverse opinions. I've heard many tell me it isn't worth it, or that they'd never do it. I guess you've given me your take on it. Though I'm still curious what role you think 'chance' plays in all this, if any.