No, any family detained is immediately separated as the parents are sent to jail and imprisoned till court hearing which may be years in the future.
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Children separated from illegal parents
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As I said, isn’t it that way for every crime?
Coming to a country to seek asylum is not a crime. The claim can be accepted or rejected through proper review, but at no point can it be considered a crime, far less a non-bailable crime.
Well, I admit to needing to do more research on the best way to handle the situation:
Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Uhuh. "Just say no" logic at its finest.
Thanks. That's all I wanted. Even in refugee camps in Turkey for displaced Syrians, or in Bangladesh for displaced for displaced Rakhines... nobody seperates the families even though the conditions are understandably not good in the camps. Surely the richest country in the world can do better? Create border settlements to temporarily house the immigrants as their petition for asylum or work permit are processed? Keep families together and provide some basic housing and food?
Apparently US is fine eating the cheap banana, apple and other produce created by the poor exploited uneducated farmers of the South and Central American nations, but treat them as worse than criminals when they try to look for sanctuary from their rotten governments?
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
That is so pathetically calloused especially coming from a group like we do that experienced so many attacks, including the Holocaust. It is is so utterly pathetic that you don't stand for those trying to escape persecution and death who are being put into American "concentration camps"-- and let's not kid ourselves as that's what they are. And Trump & Co are using the tactic of separating children from their families, much like the NAZI's did.
As I posted to you on another thread, a half-century ago Jews in Europe ran to other countries to try and escape persecution, so was that wrong for them? Should they have just waited to get slaughtered as so many did as they waited for "the proper channels", Shaul? Or is it that Hispanics fall into a different category than we do because they're not us?
Your post makes me sick to my stomach for it's even a most basic lack of empathy for others who are being persecuted and then treated like criminals when they get here by this administration that you now blindly support. So pathetic.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
One thing that is promising is that more and more religious are speaking out against the atrocity of what this administration is doing, and Sessions is now getting an earful, including from some Evangelical ministers, as his quote fell well short of covering what's found in the gospels on this subject. Plus his quote was a verse played over and over again by the NAZI's to justify their actions so as to try and gain support from the Christian majority to blindly follow their "rule of law".
Shad
Veteran Member
Method of entry can be illegal thus grounds for detention.
Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
For example?
We have the fact in place that all humans born on US soil are granted citizenship. Now, what do we do with the adult family of a child who is a US citizen living in the USA?
My thought is that the US should be like about every other country of the world and no longer grant citizenship to anyone born on US soil. For example, if I was born early to my mom when she was visiting Japan on a business trip, I would not be a Japanese citizen today.
This citizenship upon birth idea was crafted in the 1700's and they were not envisioning modern transportation and 'pregnancy tourism'. If people come to the US for the goal of gaining citizenship for the child they are really jobbing the system on a technicality that was never intended to be that way.
Shad
Veteran Member
Crossing the border outside border crossings. Detention in general is part of the legal policy since 99 anyways.
Shad
Veteran Member
1866 and 1868
I wasn't sure but even if so, that date correction doesn't change my point.
Shad
Veteran Member
I was just providing the date. The relevant articles are 14a and Civil Rights of 1868.
Sure, OK, but that's not the real situation. The real situation is that the USA (along with 34 other countries) does have jus soli.
I spoke with my dad today on the phone during my lunchbreak, and he says he really doesn't understand how the American people are accepting the splitting up of families, of children from their parents, as well as putting people in detention camps. He's aware of things like how they arrived in the country etc.
Did y'all know that two-thirds of "illegal immigrants" in the USA have been there for at least a decade?
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Shushersbedamned
Well-Known Member
A crime is a crime. A CRIMINAL
Seriously OP?
Seriously OP?
Sure but now they are separating children from migrants even when seeking asylum through normal ports of entry, and now Sessions decides women escaping rape and abuse from gang violence are not welcome either.
Shad
Veteran Member
The law only allows for catch and release or detention. The former has failed repeatedly. There is also more to it than merely claiming asylums. One must actually prove they are in danger.
Those cases need to be situational and based on nation. Sessions extended his logic in one case into all cases. He is wrong in that matter.