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Chris Rock versus Will Smith

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Oscars producer Will Packer opens up about what happened behind the scenes after Will Smith slapped Chris Rock
Reading this article, it appears that Smith owes Rock more than
just an apology....he should thank Rock for letting him remain
to accept is trophy. But Smith is a sniveling boor & a thug.

For those who think it's all fake, would a guy with Smith's ego
perform a bit that makes him look like such a miserable person?
And give Rock all the praise for handling the situation so well?
Nah.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Will Smith Resigns From Academy After Oscar Slap Of Chris Rock – Deadline
Excerpted...
I have directly responded to the Academy’s disciplinary hearing notice, and I will fully accept any and all consequences for my conduct. My actions at the 94th Academy Awards presentation were shocking, painful, and inexcusable. The list of those I have hurt is long and includes Chris, his family, many of my dear friends and loved ones, all those in attendance, and global audiences at home. I betrayed the trust of the Academy. I deprived other nominees and winners of their opportunity to celebrate and be celebrated for their extraordinary work. I am heartbroken. I want to put the focus back on those who deserve attention for their achievements and allow the Academy to get back to the incredible work it does to support creativity and artistry in film. So, I am resigning from membership in the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, and will accept any further consequences the Board deems appropriate.

Change takes time and I am committed to doing the work to ensure that I never again allow violence to overtake reason.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
That's a wonderful surprise ending for the Season, The new Season's E01 shooting starts now. :D
If the slap were a ploy to gain publicity, it sure doesn't
appear to be the kind that that would boost Smith's
image, or yield any financial gain. There are a couple
hundred million dollars worth of movies he's involved
in that have an uncertain future. He just might have
become box office poison.
https://www.showbiz411.com/2022/04/...rs-in-his-company-may-be-holding-a-60-mil-bag
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
Don't worry about Will's prospects, Hollywood intends to continue to prosper on make belief, and as Will Smith is an important asset towards this end, he will continue to cooperate with TPTB and do their bidding.
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
I don't.


The Jews?
So they planned The Slap, eh.
No silly, TPTB that run the Hollywood movie industry, whoever they are. And of course the Oscar board was in on the act, it was their show after all. As to who originated and directed the planned 'slap', I do not know, we only know the actors who carried it out.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
No silly, TPTB that run the Hollywood movie industry, whoever they are. And of course the Oscar board was in on the act, it was their show after all. As to who originated and directed the planned 'slap', I do not know, we only know the actors who carried it out.
I wonder why Smith went along with a plan designed
to make him look like an sniveling cowardly thug.
For a guy with such an out-sized ego, he must be
getting a handsome reward. What is it?
Or could it be that the Hollywood cabal is so powerful
that when ordered to fall on his sword, he simply obeys?
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
I wonder why Smith went along with a plan designed
to make him look like an sniveling cowardly thug.
For a guy with such an out-sized ego, he must be
getting a handsome reward. What is it?
Or could it be that the Hollywood cabal is so powerful
that when ordered to fall on his sword, he simply obeys?
Actors play the parts they are directed to play, it has nothing to do with what their personal opinion is of the persona of the role they play, they are professional!. It is a correct observation that if an actor plays a heroic role, the fans go bananas in their praise, and otoh if the role is to be a baddie, such as the 'slap' event, then there is hatred and disgust exhibited by the believers in the make believe presentation. Such is the nature of Hollywood culture. Reality will never be found on your TV set's entertainment shows, entertainment is what it is, entertainment, not reality itself.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Actors play the parts they are directed to play, it has nothing to do with what their personal opinion is of the persona of the role they play, they are professional!. It is a correct observation that if an actor plays a heroic role, the fans go bananas in their praise, and otoh if the role is to be a baddie, such as the 'slap' event, then there is hatred and disgust exhibited by the believers in the make believe presentation. Such is the nature of Hollywood culture. Reality will never be found on your TV set's entertainment shows, entertainment is what it is, entertainment, not reality itself.
I see....so everything that actors do in public is scripted.
Even Alec Baldwin's daughter was in on that bit when
he called her a "thoughtless little pig". Dang, those
Hollywood writers really know how to create drama!
Especially getting some to commit suicide, eg, Robin
Williams, George (Superman) Reeves, Inger Stevens.
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
I see....so everything that actors do in public is scripted.
Even Alec Baldwin's daughter was in on that bit when
he called her a "thoughtless little pig". Dang, those
Hollywood writers really know how to create drama!
Especially getting some to commit suicide, eg, Robin
Williams, George (Superman) Reeves, Inger Stevens.
What actors do and say off screen is of course not scripted, the Oscar event was not off screen. Look, I really don't like wasting my time arguing about the make believe world of Hollywood, but wouldn't there be some viewers out there who would see Will's slap as an heroic act, defending his beloved wife against the belittlement of her bald head by the wicked compere. Swoon, what a hero!
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Some background for the unfamiliar. Ricky Gervais
created "The Office", a British mocumentary. Steve
Carell starred in the Ameristanian version of "The Office".
The prior year, Gervais won an Emmy for it. He wasn't
there, so Carell accepted it for him in the clip shown.

@ben d & @Saint Frankenstein....
Here's how they script a confrontation during
an awards ceremony (starts at 2:40)....
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
^ Haha, that was amusing, well scripted, well acted, and entertaining. But seriously, so was the Smith - Rock confrontation, entertainment needs originality, unfortunately it doesn't work if the same formula is used time and again. Apart from crying during the acceptance speech, that seems to have evolved to be an obligatory part of the ritual. C'mon. you've got to hand it to them, the Smith-Rock confrontation script worked, everyone is still talking about it, Oscars are back on the map as entertainment, and next year people will be tuning in in greater numbers hoping for another entertaining night like this years'.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
^ Haha, that was amusing, well scripted, well acted, and entertaining. But seriously, so was the Smith - Rock confrontation, entertainment needs originality, unfortunately it doesn't work if the same formula is used time and again. Apart from crying during the acceptance speech, that seems to have evolved to be an obligatory part of the ritual. C'mon. you've got to hand it to them, the Smith-Rock confrontation script worked, everyone is still talking about it, Oscars are back on the map as entertainment, and next year people will be tuning in in greater numbers hoping for another entertaining night like this years'.
This assumes that ABC makes enuf money from Oscars
Night to compensate Smith for the loss he faces due to
fallout from the slap. Looking like a sniveling cowardly
thug puts a couple hundred million dollars worth of movie
projects in jeopardy. You think he got paid enuf?
And how much did Rock have to pay for this image boost?

Ref...
Advertising revenue for 2021 was $115M
The highest ever was $132M in 2018.
Let's say this "stunt" would boost revenue by $20M.
Smith & investors stands to lose much more than that.
I'm not seeing a financial scenario that could justify
paying Smith enuf money to make it worth his while.
And enduring the hatred? His ego couldn't handle it.

The Grammys are coming up soon.
Will they have their Will Smith moment?
 
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Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
This assumes that ABC makes enuf money from Oscars
Night to compensate Smith for the loss he faces due to
fallout from the slap. Looking like a sniveling cowardly
thug puts a couple hundred million dollars worth of movie
projects in jeopardy. You think he got paid enuf?
And how much did Rock have to pay for this image boost?

Ref...
Advertising revenue for 2021 was $115M
The highest ever was $132M in 2018.
Let's say this "stunt" would boost revenue by $20M.
Smith & investors stands to lose much more than that.
I'm not seeing a financial scenario that could justify
paying Smith enuf money to make it worth his while.
And enduring the hatred? His ego couldn't handle it.

The Grammys are coming up soon.
Will they have their Will Smith moment?
How on God's earth do you imagine this Oscar event would be financial loser for Will, have you not heard of the entertainment dictum. "There is no such thing as bad publicity". If his name was languishing before, it certainly is not now, an Oscar and this stunt will make him richer. He can now extend his role playing from being predominately a goodie to also being a bad***.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
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Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
You keep forgetting, the Oscar team where in on it, they look after their own, regardless of the less astute members of the public having taken it as being real life. In fact, that is what they intended, that the less astute members of the public believe it to be a real altercation, the story has legs, look it is still being milked by the industry. They will milk it all the way til next Oscar and then some, so long as it still triggers the true believers.

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"Where else can I get such cheap publicity?"

"The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about."

— Lady Bracknell, Oscar Wilde's The Importance of Being Earnest

"As the saying goes, there's "no such thing as bad publicity". The reasoning is that even if people are trying to raise a big stink about how some work is immoral, incorrect, offensive, or corrupting the youth of the world, they're just giving it attention, increasing how well-known it is, arousing people's natural curiosity as to why this thing's so offensive, and making the work into Forbidden Fruit."
No Such Thing as Bad Publicity - TV Tropes
 
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