Chris Rock versus Will Smith

[SkepticThinker]

No you have it backwards. Apparently you didn't learn anything from 2020. The people who stand up for themselves instead of letting violent people run them over are the ones I respect. Letting people disrespect you and your property and your family leads to them commiting more violence on others.

What are you talking about?

Sounds to me like you're advocating violent actions in response to words, given the situation that is the topic of the thread. I'm just going on your very own words here. You want to go back to the days of having duels if someone says something you don't like. Come on now.

 

[Wildswanderer]

What are you talking about?

Sounds to me like you're advocating violent actions in response to words, given the situation that is the topic of the thread. I'm just going on your very own words here. You want to go back to the days of having duels if someone says something you don't like. Come on now.

You don't seem to be able to understand what I'm saying.
There should be lines that can't be crossed verbally without consequences, yes.
But the bigger picture is that the threat of violence stops a lot of violence.
The national guard stops looters often without having to actually inflict pain on anyone but just by the presence of force for example.

 

[SkepticThinker]

You don't seem to be able to understand what I'm saying.
There should be lines that can't be crossed verbally without consequences, yes.
But the bigger picture is that the threat of violence stops a lot of violence.
The national guard stops looters often without having to actually inflict pain on anyone but just by the presence of force for example.

So more violence begets less violence? What you're saying is we should live in a society that has freedom of speech, but that freedom only goes so far, and if you offend someone with your words, they should have the right to hit you? And you think less violence will be the result of that?

Is that like how people think if everyone has a gun there will be less gun deaths? 'Cause that one doesn't pan out.

 

[Wildswanderer]

So more violence begets less violence? What you're saying is we should live in a society that has freedom of speech, but that freedom only goes so far, and if you offend someone with your words, they should have the right to hit you? And you think less violence will be the result of that?

Is that like how people think if everyone has a gun there will be less gun deaths? 'Cause that one doesn't pan out.

Actually, to a large degree, it does. In the places where you aren't allowed to have a gun more people are killed by guns.
And you aren't listening very well. The threat of violence stops a lot of violence before it begins.
Remember in the riots when people were using megaphones to scream into the faces of citizens just going about their business?
In that situation, where someone is screaming obscenities in your face, you should get a pass for slugging them, IMO.
Too many people have gotten used to being vulgar, hateful individuals online and not getting punched in the face for it.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

A conspiracy, eh.
It's a pretty elaborate one, since it's still
running, & involves thousands of celebrities.

True, people hate it when I tell them that movies are make believe. They ask me why would all those thousands of Hollywood celebs be involved in a conspiracy, what's in for them?

 

[Ben Dhyan]

What makes people believe in pretend reality?

A conspiracy, eh.
It's a pretty elaborate one, since it's still
running, & involves thousands of celebrities.

Were you aware that Hollywood is in the entertainment business and that promotion is a big part of it?

 

[Revoltingest]

True, people hate it when I tell them that movies are make believe. They ask me why would all those thousands of Hollywood celebs be involved in a conspiracy, what's in for them?

Did you know that the Oscars is live?

 

[Kooky]

So more violence begets less violence?

That is arguably the logic behind the justice system, police and prison.

In the places where you aren't allowed to have a gun more people are killed by guns.

That, on the other hand, is patently false.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Did you know that the Oscars is live?

Yes, and it is a promotional event for the entertainment business. I can't believe anyone could take that Oscar event to be anything other than a staged event to promote and entertain the Oscars. You fell for it. Haha

 

[Revoltingest]

Yes, and it is a promotional event for the entertainment business. I can't believe anyone could take that Oscar event to be anything other than a staged event to promote and entertain the Oscars. You fell for it. Haha

Hollywood isn't sophisticated enuf to pull off
a conspiracy this convincing. The dialogue was
too convincing & extemporaneous seeming.

When do you think your conspiracy will be outed?

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Hollywood isn't sophisticated enuf to pull off
a conspiracy this convincing. The dialogue was
too convincing & extemporaneous seeming.

When do you think your conspiracy will be outed?

Oh yea, it really makes sense to wait for the time when the whole Oscar watching world when the cameras are running and pointed at you to do this thing. These people are actors, everything they do in front of the cameras is acting, they can't help it, that is what the do for a living, And it was successful acting, you believe it, That is what Hollywood does, create make believe, the more realistic the staging, the better for the audience.

 

[Revoltingest]

Oh yea, it really makes sense to wait for the time when the whole Oscar watching world when the cameras are running and pointed at you to do this thing. These people are actors, everything they do in front of the cameras is acting, they can't help it, that is what the do for a living, And it was successful acting, you believe it, That is what Hollywood does, create make believe, the more realistic the staging, the better for the audience.

Well OK then.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Did you know that the Oscars is live?

Yeah, and those live broadcasts are tightly controlled down to the smallest thing. They could've cut away , they could've had him physically removed from the building and so on. It's not outlandish to think they would pull a stunt like that. After all, they got what they wanted - days of global publicity!

 

[Revoltingest]

Yeah, and those live broadcasts are tightly controlled down to the smallest thing. They could've cut away , they could've had him physically removed from the building and so on. It's not outlandish to think they would pull a stunt like that. After all, they got what they wanted - days of global publicity!

ABC tried to censor it, but it was leaked....
How ABC tried to censor Will Smith slap of Chris Rock

They asked him to leave right after the slap, but he refused...
Will Smith refused to leave Oscars, broke conduct code: Academy

They considered removing him, but....
https://screenrant.com/oscars-will-smith-slap-not-removed-why-explained/

So no, I don't see this event as planned. There'd be
too many variables for them to manage the conspiracy.
So Will Smith really is a violent sniveling pile of ****.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

ABC tried to censor it, but it was leaked....
How ABC tried to censor Will Smith slap of Chris Rock

They asked him to leave right after the slap, but he refused...
Will Smith refused to leave Oscars, broke conduct code: Academy

They considered removing him, but....
https://screenrant.com/oscars-will-smith-slap-not-removed-why-explained/

So no, I don't see this event as planned. There'd be
too many variables for them to manage the conspiracy.
So Will Smith really is a violent sniveling pile of ****.

Are you suggesting the complexities of the staged Oscar event were more complex than say a fight staged in a movie?

Will Smith, Chris Rock Slap Incident Was Fake, Staged to Boost Slipping Oscar Ratings? Chatter on Social Media

 

[Revoltingest]

Are you suggesting the complexities of the staged Oscar event were more complex than say a fight staged in a movie?

Yes.

Will Smith, Chris Rock Slap Incident Was Fake, Staged to Boost Slipping Oscar Ratings? Chatter on Social Media

Your article missed one point.
Smith initially laughed, but then wifey gave him the stink eye.
Then he knew he was ******.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Yes.

Your article missed one point.
Smith initially laughed, but then wifey gave him the stink eye.
Then he knew he was ******.

It's all an act, it's make believe, it's fake, it is not possible for me to take it seriously except for what it was, very well played!
I mean the wife, Oscar organizers, they were all in on it, like a movie scene shoot.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

And Will's crying at acceptance, acting or not acting, of course it was acting, tears are almost obligatory at these sort of events. Now this is a real Will Smith punch, not as complex though?

 

[Revoltingest]

It's all an act....

Agree to disagree.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Agree to disagree.

We can agree on that.